Re: AW: [Lazy Consensus] Minimum JDK build and run policy (dropping JDK 8)

2023-04-09 Thread Michael Bien
On 10.04.23 06:20, Michael Bien wrote: Hi Svata, thanks for your detailed response, my reply is inline On 10.04.23 01:16, Svata Dedic wrote: I would also (now) ask to restrict from advocating language goodies agreed. This whole discussion is almost exclusively about APIs and bytecode

Re: AW: [Lazy Consensus] Minimum JDK build and run policy (dropping JDK 8)

2023-04-09 Thread Michael Bien
Hi Svata, thanks for your detailed response, my reply is inline On 10.04.23 01:16, Svata Dedic wrote: I would also (now) ask to restrict from advocating language goodies agreed. This whole discussion is almost exclusively about APIs and bytecode levels. Language features come just as side

Re: AW: [Lazy Consensus] Minimum JDK build and run policy (dropping JDK 8)

2023-04-09 Thread Laszlo Kishalmi
Dear Svata, First of all, I would like you thank you for offering work to support keep JDK8 alive! Though reading through your mail, I'd wonder how JDK was able to evolve beyond Java 8 it had 80+ percent usage in 2018. The secret  is that they forked/branched JDK. As you mentioned there

Re: AW: [Lazy Consensus] Minimum JDK build and run policy (dropping JDK 8)

2023-04-09 Thread Svata Dedic
Please remember that the published proposal not only covered JDK8's fate, which we argue about right now, but also the idea to drop JDK11 in 2024. So take my * -1 (at the moment) for JDK8 phase out with NB19; * and ANOTHER -1 to the JDK11 plans as presented in this thread (but that should be