Re: Netbeans 13.0 only supposed to properly runs on GraalVM 17?

2022-06-13 Thread Svata Dedic
Hi, NetBeans relies on an embedded Graal.js (which includes Truffle libraries) for parsing javascript PAC proxy configuration. There was a bug in NB-13 until almost NB14 release in bad metadata in a wrapper jar that blocked some classes from loading - they were moved in Truffle to another

Re: Netbeans 13.0 only supposed to properly runs on GraalVM 17?

2022-06-12 Thread Jean-Marc Borer
By the way, is it the right place (this mailing list) to raise and discuss such issues? I don't feel confortable to file a bug report every time I seem to notice something. I prefer ask the community if I am the only one experiencing an issue before proceeding (bothering?) more. On Sun, Jun 12,

Re: Netbeans 13.0 only supposed to properly runs on GraalVM 17?

2022-06-12 Thread Jean-Marc Borer
Hello Matthias, Sure I will provide some evidences, but I need to do it at the office. What I can already tell is https://github.com/apache/netbeans/issues/4050, which shows that the IDE behaves differently when run it with a JDK that embeds JFX or not and that I noticed since 12.5 On Sun, Jun

Re: Netbeans 13.0 only supposed to properly runs on GraalVM 17?

2022-06-12 Thread Matthias Bläsing
Hi, Am Sonntag, dem 12.06.2022 um 10:41 +0200 schrieb Jean-Marc Borer: > Is Netbeans not supposed to run on any flavor (JVM) 11+? if you ask without context or proofs, you will not get real answers. I routinely run builds from NetBeans master on OpenJDKs on Windows and Linux. So to answer your

Re: Netbeans 13.0 only supposed to properly runs on GraalVM 17?

2022-06-12 Thread Jean-Marc Borer
Ok so before filing a bug, I want to retry with NB 14. I was looking for the packages released for the vote. They are no longer available. Do you know where I can find them? JM PS: I am working in a very complicated (secured) professional environment and I clearly push NB into certain limits

Re: Netbeans 13.0 only supposed to properly runs on GraalVM 17?

2022-06-12 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
Yes, I’m surprised too. And obviously NetBeans is not supposed to run only on GraalVM, you know the answer to that question, and that this is a bug. Gj On Sun, 12 Jun 2022 at 10:53, Jean-Marc Borer wrote: > Hello Geertjan, > > Well yes and no. I am surprised that NB seems to, somehow, rely on

Re: Netbeans 13.0 only supposed to properly runs on GraalVM 17?

2022-06-12 Thread Jean-Marc Borer
Hello Geertjan, Well yes and no. I am surprised that NB seems to, somehow, rely on Truffle classes during startup. As I am not a JVM expert, I was not knowing what Truffle is. By the way, is NB now supposed to only run on GraalVM? Same question for NB platform based applications, which is

Re: Netbeans 13.0 only supposed to properly runs on GraalVM 17?

2022-06-12 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
You’re surprised that messages about missing Truffle classes do not appear when you use GraalVM? Gj On Sun, 12 Jun 2022 at 10:42, Jean-Marc Borer wrote: > Hello all, > > Since I had several issues with NB 13 (see > https://github.com/apache/netbeans/issues/4050), I tried different JVMs. > > I

Netbeans 13.0 only supposed to properly runs on GraalVM 17?

2022-06-12 Thread Jean-Marc Borer
Hello all, Since I had several issues with NB 13 (see https://github.com/apache/netbeans/issues/4050), I tried different JVMs. I notice that the only one not generating warnings in the log (for example related to missing Truffle classes) is GraalVM 17. I have to say that I am a bit surprise in