RE: Becoming a member

2017-03-24 Thread Kenneth Fogel
Hi Geertjan, I think I figured it out. I inserted a row and added myself with a Need Vote. User name is kfogel. Ken -Original Message- From: Geertjan Wielenga [mailto:geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com] Sent: March 24, 2017 7:42 PM To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: Becom

Re: Becoming a member

2017-03-24 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
Hi Ken, What's your Confluence user name? Thanks, Geertjan On Sat, Mar 25, 2017 at 12:08 AM, Mark Struberg wrote: > Hi Ken! > > The ASF is all merit based. > > The usual process is that someone contributes to a project for a while. > And if the PMC members of the project think you would be a

Re: Becoming a member

2017-03-24 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
OK, I found 'kfogel' and have given permission to you to edit this page: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Who%27s+Who That's step 3 of the below! https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/How+to+Participate Thanks for your years of support of NetBeans, Ken! Gj

Re: Becoming a member

2017-03-24 Thread Mark Struberg
Hi Ken! The ASF is all merit based. The usual process is that someone contributes to a project for a while. And if the PMC members of the project think you would be a good addition to the project then they hold an internal (private) VOTE thread (72h) on this person. You can find a bit more in

RE: Becoming a member

2017-03-24 Thread Kenneth Fogel
So I created an account for Confluence. Then I created an account on JIRA. The Who's Who page says that if I am not a committer I need a status of Need Vote. Problem is I can't see how to get on the list. Ken -Original Message- From: Geertjan Wielenga [mailto:geertjan.wiele...@googlema

Re: [mentors] Clearance for upcoming NetBeans events

2017-03-24 Thread Shane Curcuru
I've documented the legal requirements in the name search process: http://apache.org/foundation/marks/naming#podlings On 2017-03-24 04:27 (-0400), Mark Struberg wrote: > Indeed, but _currently_ - from a purely legal pov - the organisers > of any such event need to ask the current trademark hol

Re: [mentors] Clearance for upcoming NetBeans events

2017-03-24 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On Fri, Mar 24, 2017 at 10:21 AM, Mark Struberg wrote: >... I'd also like to emphase that the ASF usually tries to not be an overly >beaurocratic place... Indeed - what I was trying to do is to explain the reasoning behind our few strict rules, so that people understand the spirit. -Bertrand

Re: Becoming a member

2017-03-24 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
Here's the info: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/How+to+Participate Thanks, Gj On Fri, Mar 24, 2017 at 2:14 PM, Kenneth Fogel wrote: > While I had not planned to join as a committer or other category, it seems > that to make the process of setting up a Netbeans Day easier

Becoming a member

2017-03-24 Thread Kenneth Fogel
While I had not planned to join as a committer or other category, it seems that to make the process of setting up a Netbeans Day easier I should join or sign up for something at Apache. I might even contribute to make NetBeans a better tool in the classroom. Could you point me to the appropriate

Re: [mentors] Clearance for upcoming NetBeans events

2017-03-24 Thread Mark Struberg
Thanks Mark, didn't expect anything else. I'd also like to emphase that the ASF usually tries to not be an overly beaurocratic place. But since some unspoken 'common sense' rules got broken in the past we sadly had to pin down a few of them :( LieGrue, strub > Am 24.03.2017 um 10:06 schrieb

Re: [mentors] Clearance for upcoming NetBeans events

2017-03-24 Thread Mark Stephens
> On 24 Mar 2017, at 08:59, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: > > On Fri, Mar 24, 2017 at 9:30 AM, Mark Stephens > wrote: >> ...The NetBeans Days are always organised by Community members, although we >> are not above using any sway we have over >> any commercial entity (and fellow NetBeans enthusias

Re: [mentors] Clearance for upcoming NetBeans events

2017-03-24 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On Fri, Mar 24, 2017 at 9:30 AM, Mark Stephens wrote: > ...The NetBeans Days are always organised by Community members, although we > are not above using any sway we have over > any commercial entity (and fellow NetBeans enthusiasts there) to gain > resources, time, venues, funds, raffle prizes,

Re: [mentors] Clearance for upcoming NetBeans events

2017-03-24 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
Great, looks like we're all on the same page. Gj On Fri, Mar 24, 2017 at 9:33 AM, Mark Struberg wrote: > Yes it's totally understandable. Both parties are acting in good faith, so > I see absolutely no problem right now. > > LieGrue, > strub > > > Am 24.03.2017 um 09:29 schrieb Raphael Bircher

Re: [mentors] Clearance for upcoming NetBeans events

2017-03-24 Thread Mark Stephens
> On 24 Mar 2017, at 08:06, Mark Struberg wrote: > > > Being one of the mentors I asked Geertjan in a private mail for a bit of > background for the NetBeans Day events. > I literally had no clue whether this was run by the community or some > commercial entity. The NetBeans Days are always

Re: [mentors] Clearance for upcoming NetBeans events

2017-03-24 Thread Mark Struberg
Yes it's totally understandable. Both parties are acting in good faith, so I see absolutely no problem right now. LieGrue, strub > Am 24.03.2017 um 09:29 schrieb Raphael Bircher : > > Hi all > > Am .03.2017, 09:09 Uhr, schrieb Bertrand Delacretaz : > >> On Fri, Mar 24, 2017 at 9:06 AM, Mark

Re: [mentors] Clearance for upcoming NetBeans events

2017-03-24 Thread Raphael Bircher
Hi all Am .03.2017, 09:09 Uhr, schrieb Bertrand Delacretaz : On Fri, Mar 24, 2017 at 9:06 AM, Mark Struberg wrote: ...For NetBeans it's currently a bit different since the 'NetBeans' trademark is still owned by Oracle and will probably only be handed over into the custody of the ASF on

Re: [mentors] Clearance for upcoming NetBeans events

2017-03-24 Thread Mark Struberg
Indeed, but _currently_ - from a purely legal pov - the organisers of any such event need to ask the current trademark holder of the 'NetBeans' mark. And this is _currently_ Oracle. If I run a "Porsche days" event then I of course also have to ask the Porsche company for clearance... You know, a

Re: [mentors] Clearance for upcoming NetBeans events

2017-03-24 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On Fri, Mar 24, 2017 at 9:06 AM, Mark Struberg wrote: > ...For NetBeans it's currently a bit different since the 'NetBeans' trademark > is still > owned by Oracle and will probably only be handed over into the custody of the > ASF on graduation. So legally the one to ask is currently Oracle, righ

Re: [mentors] Clearance for upcoming NetBeans events

2017-03-24 Thread Mark Struberg
Hi folks! Let me first say that I really love that the Community is holding their own get-togethers, events and conferences! Being one of the mentors I asked Geertjan in a private mail for a bit of background for the NetBeans Day events. I literally had no clue whether this was run by the commu

Re: [mentors] Clearance for upcoming NetBeans events

2017-03-24 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Hi, On Fri, Mar 24, 2017 at 2:21 AM, Craig Russell wrote: > ...Clearance is granted by VP, Brand (Shane Curcuru) usually in response to an > email to tradema...@apache.org with a description of what is being requested. > This is a private email list. The request should reference any discussion th