Re: Microsoft buys GitHub

> And like has already been said, it's fairly easy to change a remote host on git... GitHub isn't just a remote host. It's also basically: * our code review tool for all commits (lots of comments on PRs which cannot be migrated). * smoke test build server (via Travis) I would agree to continue

Re: Indexing API change causing existing plugin to severely degrade performance

Dne středa 6. června 2018 0:45:40 CEST, Jeffrey Morlan napsal(a): > Hi, > > I'm the author of the "nbts" TypeScript Editor plugin ( > http://plugins.netbeans.org/plugin/60605/typescript-editor, > https://github.com/Everlaw/nbts). Typescript plugin is (going to be) more and more important, I'd

Re: Microsoft buys GitHub

On 06/05/2018 06:45 PM, John McDonnell wrote: > Have to say I'm a little perplexed at all the negativity surrounding the > news on this. > Yes, there will obviously be some MS tie-ins, be it Azure or Visual Studio > (Code), etc. That's exactly what people are concerned about. As Thomas

Re: Microsoft buys GitHub

On Tue, Jun 5, 2018 at 5:45 PM John McDonnell wrote: > Have to say I'm a little perplexed at all the negativity surrounding the > news on this. > > I don't see the Microsoft under the Satya Nadella as comparable to > previous eras of the company. There's no way they'd buy GitHub and then >

Indexing API change causing existing plugin to severely degrade performance

Hi, I'm the author of the "nbts" TypeScript Editor plugin ( http://plugins.netbeans.org/plugin/60605/typescript-editor, https://github.com/Everlaw/nbts). When I tested it in NetBeans 9.0 RC1, I saw major performance problems with saving files, due to the change made to indexing in

Re: Microsoft buys GitHub

Dear Martin, I would like to respectfully disagree with two of your statements. microsoft does not play by the rules. Also, they have never been stopped due to their previous anti competitive behavior. It is unlikely they would lose any legal case in any of the legal systems when they shut down

Re: How to create a module suite using Maven?

Seems I've made some mistakes in configuration, probably because of some copy/paste done wrong. Am 05.06.2018 um 12:33 schrieb Peter Nabbefeld: Other strange things now happen, like duplicated jar files (using different names) and duplicated clusters (default one + one with artifact name).

Re: How to create a module suite using Maven?

Hi Geertjan, the Maven "NetBeans Application" project type states: "The platform is loaded entirely from a Maven repository." - that's not what I want. Also, I don't want to modify anything of the IDE. I'll try the tutorial probably some time later. The "nbm-suite-root" plugin is working in

Re: NetBeans user dir per release

I don't believe we have to change anything. Just use 9.0. --emi ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On 5 June 2018 10:40 PM, Laszlo Kishalmi wrote: > Dear all, > > I just would like to start some discussion on the default user directory. > > So far each and every NetBeans release had its

NetBeans user dir per release

Dear all, I just would like to start some discussion on the default user directory. So far each and every NetBeans release had its distinct user directory like $HOME/.netbeans/8.0, $HOME/.netbeans/8.2rc1, etc. Do we want to follow this with Apache NetBeans (we are using dev at these moment)

Re: Proposed plan for final release of 9.0

What's in a name, right? Let's just call any bits 9.0 and see later if we go to 9.1 or NetBeans 2018.10 or NetBeans 2019 or whatever. One thing is that NetBeans 9 will be Java SE only, but I don't expect we can wait until we IP review the 2nd donation too... We could at least have NetCAT

New NetBeans policy: not tracking compile time dependencies license

Hello, It seems we are somewhat overzealous in our dependency license tracking and our releases are having a lot of discussions because we still have the GPL license included among the source files, since we have compile-time GPL (w/CPE) dependencies. We don't include the GPL license in

Re: Microsoft buys GitHub

Facebook was a pioneer in mass profiling of the general world population. Now Microsoft, armed with LinkedIn and GitHub, is in position to do the same for the developer world population. (Do you remember "developers, developers, developers"?) Microsoft needs to keep GitHub users happy and

Re: Microsoft buys GitHub

I don't think the problem is "Embrace, Extend and Extinguish" anymore. You don't spend 7.5 billions if you don't expect some serious ROI, so they will try to monetize the platform as much as possible (which is totally understandable). Microsoft don't have a good track record on improving the

Re: Microsoft buys GitHub

My guess is that Microsoft will avoid crippling Github in any way (MS wants these millions of developers) and will try to funnel the developers to the Microsoft ecosystem (Azure, Store, LinkedIn, etc.). Some references: https://stratechery.com/2018/the-cost-of-developers/ (long and broad)

Re: Congratulations! Your talk has been accepted for FOSS Backstage

On Tue, Jun 5, 2018 at 11:18 AM, Geertjan Wielenga wrote: >... Who is able to be there and/or to speak at the session with me?... My talk is at the same time than yours, too bad! But looking forward to meeting you in person, finally. -Bertrand

Re: Microsoft buys GitHub

On Tue, Jun 5, 2018 at 3:55 PM, Emilian Bold wrote: > The frog is boiled slowly... The ASF insists on all our repositories being mirrored on servers that we control [1] exactly for such reasons: being dependent on GitHub or any other commercial service would not work for our "we'll still be

Re: Microsoft buys GitHub

Ouch! John Yeary *NetBeans Dream Team* *Founder Greenville Java Users GroupJava Users Groups Community Leader*

Re: Microsoft buys GitHub

The frog is boiled slowly. --emi ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On 5 June 2018 4:18 PM, Martin Weißhaupt wrote: > GitHub was already a proprietary platform. Microsoft is not stupid, they > > want to get a part of the open source cake and closing GitHub or making > > open source projects

Re: Microsoft buys GitHub

GitHub was already a proprietary platform. Microsoft is not stupid, they want to get a part of the open source cake and closing GitHub or making open source projects suffer would get them into trouble really fast. I'm not a lawyer but I think that would qualify as anti competitive behaviour which

Re: Proposed plan for final release of 9.0

> I.e., this means the idea is to not create an rc2 release, but instead to > focus on the next release that we do to be the final release of 9.0. > > This is a bit up-side-down, but given the way the system works, it is probably correct. One does all the work and prepares the final bits and

Proposed plan for final release of 9.0

Hi all, Right now in the current state of Apache NetBeans, our releases are 'blocker based' rather than 'time based', i.e., when blockers are fixed, we'll release. The primary purpose of releases for the moment continues to be to integrate into the Apache way of doing things, rather than

Re: Microsoft buys GitHub

I say good for GitHub.. I don’t think MS will be a problem… At least not right away. And if they are, it’s pretty easy to move to a new git home. — Kirk > On Jun 5, 2018, at 1:58 PM, Peter Cheung wrote: > > Codeplex, nokia, robotVM, all dead > > > From:

Re: Microsoft buys GitHub

Codeplex, nokia, robotVM, all dead From: Emilian Bold Sent: Tuesday, June 5, 2018 4:15 PM To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org Subject: Microsoft buys GitHub Hello, I'm a bit worried about Microsoft steering the future of open-source projects' online

Re: How to create a module suite using Maven?

Other strange things now happen, like duplicated jar files (using different names) and duplicated clusters (default one + one with artifact name). If I need the archetype "nbm-suite-root", I'll have to investigate those further. So going to try two other possible options. Peter Am

Re: How to create a module suite using Maven?

The archetype is working, but only without "useOSGiDependencies". When adding new modules to some POM project (like the one generated by "nbm-suite-root"), usually "Allow OSGi modules as dependencies" is selected by default, adding a configuration parameter entry "true" to the created POM

Re: How to create a module suite using Maven?

Just follow the tutorial -- yes, it requires 8.1 or above, I think it's not a problem. Rather than figuring various things out, can you follow the tutorial first, and then see what's missing for you after that? Thanks, Gj On Tue, Jun 5, 2018 at 11:24 AM, Peter Nabbefeld wrote: > > Hi

Re: How to create a module suite using Maven?

Hi Geertjan, thank You! At the beginning of the tutorial I found a little mistake: While the "sticker" says, "Requires NetBeans 8.1", there's a "Note: **This document uses NetBeans Platform 7.2 and NetBeans IDE 7.2. If you are using an earlier version, see the previous version of this

Re: Congratulations! Your talk has been accepted for FOSS Backstage

Hi all, The session is now on Wednesday, 13 June (i.e., next week) from 17.20 to 18:00: https://www.foss-backstage.de/session/10-tips-moving-large-corporate-projects-apache Who is able to be there and/or to speak at the session with me? Daniel Gruno? Kai Uwe Pel? Toni Epple? Jaroslav Tulach?

AW: Microsoft buys GitHub

I think not yet. Why is everyone worring About it? MS is doing quite well for working and making their own stuff open source for years. We will see what happens but atm, there is no official Statement, no License changes at all, etc. Keep calm and we will see. Cheers Chris Von: Emilian Bold

Microsoft buys GitHub

Hello, I'm a bit worried about Microsoft steering the future of open-source projects' online collaboration and tooling with their GitHub purchase: https://blogs.microsoft.com/blog/2018/06/04/microsoft-github-empowering-developers/ I wonder if there's anything we need to rethink in terms of our

Re: How to create a module suite using Maven?

Really, all you should need is to "run" a module that depends on all the others you need. -Tim On Tue, Jun 5, 2018 at 2:17 AM, Geertjan Wielenga < geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com> wrote: > Tutorial: https://platform.netbeans.org/tutorials/nbm-maven- > quickstart.html > > Gj > > On Tue, Jun 5,

Re: How to create a module suite using Maven?

Tutorial: https://platform.netbeans.org/tutorials/nbm-maven-quickstart.html Gj On Tue, Jun 5, 2018 at 8:09 AM, Peter Nabbefeld wrote: > > Thank You, Tim! What does an application project make so special? I guess, > it's not "only" the branding? BTW, can I drop it, to turn the application >

Re: How to create a module suite using Maven?

Thank You, Tim! What does an application project make so special? I guess, it's not "only" the branding? BTW, can I drop it, to turn the application project into a suite? Regards Peter Am 05.06.2018 um 07:59 schrieb Tim Boudreau: Suites were really invented for Ant projects, and just

Re: AW: NetBeans celebrates 1.7 million active users

The IDE generates, on first run, a large random number which identifies that install. No personal data is involved. That number is included in HTTP requests to fetch updates. -Tim On Mon, Jun 4, 2018 at 11:03 AM, Daniel Gruno wrote: > On 06/04/2018 09:56 AM, Jiří Kovalský wrote: > >> I do