Re: 10-vc5

2018-11-22 Thread Laszlo Kishalmi
Well, even if it is not a blocker, but a few hundred people would install NetBeans this way: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-1372 : https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans/pull/1031 @Geertjan, please check the description in the PR, if it suits the needs. On 11/22/18 10:5

10-vc5

2018-11-22 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
Hi all, >From the discussions over the last day or two, it seems we need to put together 10-vc5. AFAIK, the issues that need to be addressed in 10-vc5 are: 1. nb-javac installs without user OK / interaction https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-1733 2. Relicense nashorn parser https://

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Netbeans 10.0 (incubating) [vote candidate 4]

2018-11-22 Thread Neil C Smith
On Thu, 22 Nov 2018, 23:27 Laszlo Kishalmi The next thing I opened Tools > Plugins > Installed (with Show derails) > Entering javac in the search shows nbjavac installed and active. > Before opening the project the same search of installed plugings shows > nothing. > I was just watching the userd

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Netbeans 10.0 (incubating) [vote candidate 4]

2018-11-22 Thread Laszlo Kishalmi
Well, I was able to reproduce this this with Java 8 and 11 as well. I just opened a JavaApplication (NB generated, very basic Java Application) with completely new userdir (and even cachedir) The next thing I opened Tools > Plugins > Installed (with Show derails) Entering javac in the search s

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Netbeans 10.0 (incubating) [vote candidate 4]

2018-11-22 Thread Junichi Yamamoto
Created a PR: https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans/pull/1030 Thanks, Junichi On Fri, Nov 23, 2018 at 5:00 AM Jiří Kovalský wrote: > > Yes, the Dev in About dialog is not correct too. > > -Jirka > > Dne 22.11.2018 v 06:31 Junichi Yamamoto napsal(a): > > +1 > > > > BTW, The version is **DEV

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Netbeans 10.0 (incubating) [vote candidate 4]

2018-11-22 Thread Josh Juneau
I've been running vc3 for Java EE development for the past few weeks. Working great. Built vc4 today and it seems to be working well also. Once those last few issues are taken care of then I think this will be a solid release. Josh Juneau juneau...@gmail.com http://jj-blogger.blogspot.com htt

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Netbeans 10.0 (incubating) [vote candidate 4]

2018-11-22 Thread Jiří Kovalský
Yes, the Dev in About dialog is not correct too. -Jirka Dne 22.11.2018 v 06:31 Junichi Yamamoto napsal(a): +1 BTW, The version is **DEV** yet. Help > About > Product Version: Apache NetBeans IDE Dev (Build incubator-netbeans-release-370-on-20181121) So, we should fix it. Regards, Junichi On T

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Netbeans 10.0 (incubating) [vote candidate 4]

2018-11-22 Thread Neil C Smith
On Thu, 22 Nov 2018 at 17:30, Geertjan Wielenga wrote: > The only question is how do we define this -- the items you're pointing out > now, if they are true, have been true since the very first voting candidate. Probably! I've been really out of the loop the last month or so due to other things,

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Netbeans 10.0 (incubating) [vote candidate 4]

2018-11-22 Thread Jiří Kovalský
It will stop when we will not be aware of any obvious release blockers and all voters will +1 on the voting thread. I can assure you Geertjan that if I had known about this JavaScript Parser licensing problem during the VC3 voting I would have voted -1 earlier. Unfortunately I wasn't until now

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Netbeans 10.0 (incubating) [vote candidate 4]

2018-11-22 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
There's nobody disagreeing with you, Neil. The only question is how do we define this -- the items you're pointing out now, if they are true, have been true since the very first voting candidate. I am not able to reproduce it, though, so someone else we need to do that and also fix it. Gj On T

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Netbeans 10.0 (incubating) [vote candidate 4]

2018-11-22 Thread Neil C Smith
On Thu, 22 Nov 2018 at 16:57, Geertjan Wielenga wrote: > Yes, sure, when it's releasable. To be clear, wasn't trying to be sarcastic, just that it can't stop until we're meeting the Apache release requirements at the very least. > But can we define what that means, which specific PRs, plus your

Re: NB10 release vote - nb-javac problem?

2018-11-22 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
Yes, I see that too. But that is not what Neil describes -- this is a different issue. Gj On Thu, Nov 22, 2018 at 6:16 PM Aldo Brucale wrote: > Geertjan, if you do as the balloon says this exception is thrown: > > java.lang.IllegalStateException: Host module > StandardModule:org.netbeans.libs

Re: NB10 release vote - nb-javac problem?

2018-11-22 Thread Neil C Smith
On Thu, 22 Nov 2018 at 17:03, Geertjan Wielenga wrote: > 2. I ignore the prompt (the balloon bottom right) that appears, prompting > me to install nb-javac. You get the prompt?! I never see that. > It seems like to me no nb-javac is installed. Have you checked your user directory? btw - opene

Re: NB10 release vote - nb-javac problem?

2018-11-22 Thread Aldo Brucale
Geertjan, if you do as the balloon says this exception is thrown: java.lang.IllegalStateException: Host module StandardModule:org.netbeans.libs.javacimpl jarFile: /opt/netbeans-10.0/java/modules/org-netbeans-libs-javacimpl.jar was enabled before, will not accept fragment StandardModule:org.netbean

Re: NB10 release vote - nb-javac problem?

2018-11-22 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
1. I have started Apache NetBeans 10 vc3 with a fresh user directory. 2. I ignore the prompt (the balloon bottom right) that appears, prompting me to install nb-javac. 3. I go to File | Open Project and I open an AnagramGame project I have lying around on disk. 4. I go to Tools | Plugins and I l

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Netbeans 10.0 (incubating) [vote candidate 4]

2018-11-22 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
Yes, sure, when it's releasable. But can we define what that means, which specific PRs, plus your nb-javac thread (create an issue, with steps to reproduce, please). Gj On Thu, Nov 22, 2018 at 5:53 PM Neil C Smith wrote: > On Thu, 22 Nov 2018 at 16:44, Geertjan Wielenga > wrote: > > > > OK,

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Netbeans 10.0 (incubating) [vote candidate 4]

2018-11-22 Thread Neil C Smith
On Thu, 22 Nov 2018 at 16:44, Geertjan Wielenga wrote: > > OK, but after this PR is integrated, and we produce another VC, what will > be the next PR that we should also have integrated? > > Where does this stop? When it's releasable?! Or am I misunderstanding that this particular issue breaks A

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Netbeans 10.0 (incubating) [vote candidate 4]

2018-11-22 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
OK, but after this PR is integrated, and we produce another VC, what will be the next PR that we should also have integrated? Where does this stop? How do we know that we have integrated all the PRs we should integrate> Gj On Thu, Nov 22, 2018 at 5:30 PM Jiří Kovalský wrote: > I am sorry but

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Netbeans 10.0 (incubating) [vote candidate 4]

2018-11-22 Thread Jiří Kovalský
I am sorry but I agree with Jan. -1 because of https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-1159 Let's get the things right to demonstrate our maturity to leave Apache incubator. Thank you, -Jirka Dne 22.11.2018 v 07:02 Jan Lahoda napsal(a): I wonder if (when we are doing new votes) we s

NB10 release vote - nb-javac problem?

2018-11-22 Thread Neil C Smith
Hi, Finally found some time to try out an NB10 voting candidate. All seems great, apart from one issue which I'm not sure is a reason to -1 or not? If I open a Java project, rather than creating a new one, nb-javac seems to be installed without any user OK / interaction. Is this intentional? T

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Netbeans 10.0 (incubating) [vote candidate 4]

2018-11-22 Thread Luff,Chris
+1 Associate Principal Software Engineer | IP Development - Care Insight and Delivery Dev | chris.l...@cerner.com | Cerner Limited On Nov 21, 2018, at 11:50 PM, Laszlo Kishalmi mailto:laszlo.kisha...@gmail.com>> wrote: Dear all, This is o

Re: WildFly plugin

2018-11-22 Thread ehsavoie
Hi, While this is possible: 1st it is error prone 2nd more difficult to evolve 3rd we are talking XML parsing and serialization here: the schema are just here to generate the marshalling/ unmarshalling code. I'll try to ask legal to change the XSD licences. Chers, Le mer. 21 nov. 2018 à 22:19, Ma