[CANCELLED][VOTE] Release Apache Netbeans 10.0 (incubating) [vote candidate 4]

Dear all, As there are two license violation issues has been identified in our Apache Netbeans 10.0 (incubating) [vote candidate 4] I cancel the the voting on that thread. A new voting candidate is going to be cut when those issues are fixed. Laszlo Kishalmi --

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Netbeans 10.0 (incubating) [vote candidate 4]

On Fri, 23 Nov 2018, 20:51 Emilian Bold But we are talking about 'special' recommended plugins like nb-javac > or perhaps beansbinding. > And the Apache legal position on linking to nb-javac included it being optional and the end user explicitly accepting the license. I'm not sure that could incl

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Netbeans 10.0 (incubating) [vote candidate 4]

But we are talking about 'special' recommended plugins like nb-javac or perhaps beansbinding. --emi On Fri, Nov 23, 2018 at 10:15 PM Neil C Smith wrote: > > On Fri, 23 Nov 2018, 19:43 Emilian Bold > > There aren't many (yet) but NetBeans always prided on being 'with > > batteries included'. If

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Netbeans 10.0 (incubating) [vote candidate 4]

On Fri, 23 Nov 2018, 19:43 Emilian Bold There aren't many (yet) but NetBeans always prided on being 'with > batteries included'. If we are not careful we could end up like > Eclipse where end users are supposed to hunt down plugins and worry if > they all work together. > Huh?! I'm only saying I

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Netbeans 10.0 (incubating) [vote candidate 4]

There aren't many (yet) but NetBeans always prided on being 'with batteries included'. If we are not careful we could end up like Eclipse where end users are supposed to hunt down plugins and worry if they all work together. --emi On Fri, Nov 23, 2018 at 9:02 PM Neil C Smith wrote: > > On Fri, 23

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Netbeans 10.0 (incubating) [vote candidate 4]

On Fri, 23 Nov 2018, 18:31 Emilian Bold > When asking the user for permission it would be great if a "yes don't > ask me again" option was present and also a "accept all recommend > plugins". > > I like this idea. > I don't. It's not like there are many. There's a big difference between explicitl

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Netbeans 10.0 (incubating) [vote candidate 4]

> When asking the user for permission it would be great if a "yes don't ask me again" option was present and also a "accept all recommend plugins". I like this idea. --emi On Fri, Nov 23, 2018 at 8:20 PM Matthias Bläsing wrote: > > Hi, > > Am Freitag, den 23.11.2018, 18:12 + schrieb Neil C S

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Netbeans 10.0 (incubating) [vote candidate 4]

Hi, Am Freitag, den 23.11.2018, 18:12 + schrieb Neil C Smith: > On Fri, 23 Nov 2018 at 17:57, Geertjan Wielenga > wrote: > > Recommendations for next release — (1) include nb-javac > > installation as > > part of the NetCAT test specs, to catch related problems early, > > Well, only one of t

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Netbeans 10.0 (incubating) [vote candidate 4]

On Fri, 23 Nov 2018 at 17:45, Jaroslav Tulach wrote: > We shouldn't attempt to release with known blockers. Yes, but to be fair 1733 wasn't a known blocker until I reported as part of this vote! And I guess 1159 should have been marked as a blocker, but isn't. > Wouldn't it be better to have a

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Netbeans 10.0 (incubating) [vote candidate 4]

The problem is that new blockers are discovered during the vote. Recommendations for next release — (1) include nb-javac installation as part of the NetCAT test specs, to catch related problems early, (2) try to identify as many potentially problematic areas as possible and include them in NetCAT,

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Netbeans 10.0 (incubating) [vote candidate 4]

-1 We shouldn't attempt to release with known blockers. The installation of GPL code without a confirmation (e.g. NETBEANS-1733) is a blocker. I'll fix it over the weekend. The presence of Nashorn parser code (reported as NETBEANS-1159) taken from JDK8 - e.g. licensed under GPLwCP - is a blocker

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Netbeans 10.0 (incubating) [vote candidate 4]

Looks good hence approved your PR. Thanks Junichi! -Jirka Dne 22.11.2018 v 23:50 Junichi Yamamoto napsal(a): Created a PR: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__github.com_apache_incubator-2Dnetbeans_pull_1030&d=DwIFaQ&c=RoP1YumCXCgaWHvlZYR8PZh8Bv7qIrMUB65eapI_JnE&r=8_Pz0x0SKeT5

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Netbeans 10.0 (incubating) [vote candidate 4]

On Thu, 22 Nov 2018, 23:27 Laszlo Kishalmi The next thing I opened Tools > Plugins > Installed (with Show derails) > Entering javac in the search shows nbjavac installed and active. > Before opening the project the same search of installed plugings shows > nothing. > I was just watching the userd

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Netbeans 10.0 (incubating) [vote candidate 4]

Well, I was able to reproduce this this with Java 8 and 11 as well. I just opened a JavaApplication (NB generated, very basic Java Application) with completely new userdir (and even cachedir) The next thing I opened Tools > Plugins > Installed (with Show derails) Entering javac in the search s

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Netbeans 10.0 (incubating) [vote candidate 4]

Created a PR: https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans/pull/1030 Thanks, Junichi On Fri, Nov 23, 2018 at 5:00 AM Jiří Kovalský wrote: > > Yes, the Dev in About dialog is not correct too. > > -Jirka > > Dne 22.11.2018 v 06:31 Junichi Yamamoto napsal(a): > > +1 > > > > BTW, The version is **DEV

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Netbeans 10.0 (incubating) [vote candidate 4]

I've been running vc3 for Java EE development for the past few weeks. Working great. Built vc4 today and it seems to be working well also. Once those last few issues are taken care of then I think this will be a solid release. Josh Juneau juneau...@gmail.com http://jj-blogger.blogspot.com htt

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Netbeans 10.0 (incubating) [vote candidate 4]

Yes, the Dev in About dialog is not correct too. -Jirka Dne 22.11.2018 v 06:31 Junichi Yamamoto napsal(a): +1 BTW, The version is **DEV** yet. Help > About > Product Version: Apache NetBeans IDE Dev (Build incubator-netbeans-release-370-on-20181121) So, we should fix it. Regards, Junichi On T

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Netbeans 10.0 (incubating) [vote candidate 4]

On Thu, 22 Nov 2018 at 17:30, Geertjan Wielenga wrote: > The only question is how do we define this -- the items you're pointing out > now, if they are true, have been true since the very first voting candidate. Probably! I've been really out of the loop the last month or so due to other things,

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Netbeans 10.0 (incubating) [vote candidate 4]

It will stop when we will not be aware of any obvious release blockers and all voters will +1 on the voting thread. I can assure you Geertjan that if I had known about this JavaScript Parser licensing problem during the VC3 voting I would have voted -1 earlier. Unfortunately I wasn't until now

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Netbeans 10.0 (incubating) [vote candidate 4]

There's nobody disagreeing with you, Neil. The only question is how do we define this -- the items you're pointing out now, if they are true, have been true since the very first voting candidate. I am not able to reproduce it, though, so someone else we need to do that and also fix it. Gj On T

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Netbeans 10.0 (incubating) [vote candidate 4]

On Thu, 22 Nov 2018 at 16:57, Geertjan Wielenga wrote: > Yes, sure, when it's releasable. To be clear, wasn't trying to be sarcastic, just that it can't stop until we're meeting the Apache release requirements at the very least. > But can we define what that means, which specific PRs, plus your

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Netbeans 10.0 (incubating) [vote candidate 4]

Yes, sure, when it's releasable. But can we define what that means, which specific PRs, plus your nb-javac thread (create an issue, with steps to reproduce, please). Gj On Thu, Nov 22, 2018 at 5:53 PM Neil C Smith wrote: > On Thu, 22 Nov 2018 at 16:44, Geertjan Wielenga > wrote: > > > > OK,

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Netbeans 10.0 (incubating) [vote candidate 4]

On Thu, 22 Nov 2018 at 16:44, Geertjan Wielenga wrote: > > OK, but after this PR is integrated, and we produce another VC, what will > be the next PR that we should also have integrated? > > Where does this stop? When it's releasable?! Or am I misunderstanding that this particular issue breaks A

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Netbeans 10.0 (incubating) [vote candidate 4]

OK, but after this PR is integrated, and we produce another VC, what will be the next PR that we should also have integrated? Where does this stop? How do we know that we have integrated all the PRs we should integrate> Gj On Thu, Nov 22, 2018 at 5:30 PM Jiří Kovalský wrote: > I am sorry but

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Netbeans 10.0 (incubating) [vote candidate 4]

I am sorry but I agree with Jan. -1 because of https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-1159 Let's get the things right to demonstrate our maturity to leave Apache incubator. Thank you, -Jirka Dne 22.11.2018 v 07:02 Jan Lahoda napsal(a): I wonder if (when we are doing new votes) we s

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Netbeans 10.0 (incubating) [vote candidate 4]

+1 Associate Principal Software Engineer | IP Development - Care Insight and Delivery Dev | chris.l...@cerner.com | Cerner Limited On Nov 21, 2018, at 11:50 PM, Laszlo Kishalmi mailto:laszlo.kisha...@gmail.com>> wrote: Dear all, This is o

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Netbeans 10.0 (incubating) [vote candidate 4]

Well, I did not dare to include any more code changes to the vc4, as vc3 has been almost released. Unfortunately PR#973 has no corresponding JIRA issue which makes it a bit harder to weigh the importance of that patch regarding the release. I can cut a vc5 if we feel this is a blocker and pro

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Netbeans 10.0 (incubating) [vote candidate 4]

+1 Gj On Thu, Nov 22, 2018 at 7:22 AM David Green wrote: > On 21 Nov 2018, at 17:50, Laszlo Kishalmi wrote: > > > Build artifacts available here: > > > https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/incubator/netbeans/incubating-netbeans/incubating-10.0-vc4/ > > > > Included in the above are the DEPEND

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Netbeans 10.0 (incubating) [vote candidate 4]

On 21 Nov 2018, at 17:50, Laszlo Kishalmi wrote: Build artifacts available here: https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/incubator/netbeans/incubating-netbeans/incubating-10.0-vc4/ Included in the above are the DEPENDENCIES, DISCLAIMER, LICENSE, and NOTICE files, as well as a README file with b

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Netbeans 10.0 (incubating) [vote candidate 4]

I wonder if (when we are doing new votes) we should consider cherrypicking some other stuff, like: https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans/pull/973 Jan On Thu, Nov 22, 2018 at 12:50 AM Laszlo Kishalmi wrote: > Dear all, > > This is our 4th voting candidate for the 10.0 release of Apache Ne

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Netbeans 10.0 (incubating) [vote candidate 4]

+1 BTW, The version is **DEV** yet. Help > About > Product Version: Apache NetBeans IDE Dev (Build incubator-netbeans-release-370-on-20181121) So, we should fix it. Regards, Junichi On Thu, Nov 22, 2018 at 8:50 AM Laszlo Kishalmi wrote: > > Dear all, > > This is our 4th voting candidate for the

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Netbeans 10.0 (incubating) [vote candidate 4]

+1 On 11/21/18 3:50 PM, Laszlo Kishalmi wrote: Dear all, This is our 4th voting candidate for the 10.0 release of Apache NetBeans. The content of this voting candidate is the same as the previous voting candidate 3, the only difference is the accidentally included binaries got removed (with s

[VOTE] Release Apache Netbeans 10.0 (incubating) [vote candidate 4]

Dear all, This is our 4th voting candidate for the 10.0 release of Apache NetBeans. The content of this voting candidate is the same as the previous voting candidate 3, the only difference is the accidentally included binaries got removed (with some build script modifications). See more at: htt