AW: Usability study was: Think Java, not Electron! was: Apache HTML/Java UI

2018-04-05 Thread toni.epple
Hi Neil, on platforms without javafx the project needs to be created using the maven -> Create from archetype wizard, as the regular wizard won't run here. We already discussed, that we'll need to replace that presenter with jcef/chromium or something similar, especially with the removal of JFX

AW: Usability study was: Think Java, not Electron! was: Apache HTML/Java UI

2018-04-05 Thread toni.epple
Hi, Working on solving these issues. I've created a PR to change the category and description as proposed here. I'm also trying to improve the "first contact" when somebody tries the wizard out of curiosity without knowing about the API. When the freshly created application is running it now c

AW: Usability study was: Think Java, not Electron! was: Apache HTML/Java UI

2018-03-19 Thread toni.epple
Hi Scott, here's an example of an advanced table control with fixed headers: https://fancygrid.com/gallery/ And here's a listing of some table/spreadsheet controls: https://jspreadsheets.com/ I personally created my own where I create just enough row elements for the viewport and reuse them b

AW: Usability study was: Think Java, not Electron! was: Apache HTML/Java UI

2018-03-19 Thread Christian Lenz
That would be great, if we have the chromium Content module alternative. 😊 Cheers Chris Von: Toni Epple Gesendet: Montag, 19. März 2018 08:05 An: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org Betreff: Re: Usability study was: Think Java, not Electron! was: Apache HTML/Java UI I have no plans to embed ele

AW: Usability study was: Think Java, not Electron! was: Apache HTML/Java UI

2018-03-18 Thread toni.epple
Hi Gili, the problems in the referenced threads are browser compatibility issues. These are annoying, I fully agree. Yet they have nothing to do with using HTML/CSS for UIs. They are only an issue for web development. They are not an issue if you use a framework like Electron, because you ship

AW: Usability study was: Think Java, not Electron! was: Apache HTML/Java UI

2018-03-17 Thread toni.epple
Fully agree, and Swing and JavaFX stopped development before the concept of "responsive UIs" became popular. So they have nothing for that. I agree that layout via css used to be painful and hard to understand sometimes, but Flow and especially Grid Layout has completely solved this for me. -