[proposal]: Enhance visualisation of Handles

2012-12-11 Thread Armin Le Grand
Hi List, I took the time and started to look technically and bitmap'ally at the handles and how to make them some nicer, but also more useful (aka slightly transparent). For deeper information, please see the task (https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=121463) I have opened for it.

Re: [proposal]: Enhance visualisation of Handles

2012-12-11 Thread Regina Henschel
Hi Armin, getting bigger handles is good. But I'm not convinced, that transparency is good. Please try the handles in a presentation, which has a dark background, like some master pages in our new set. LibreOffice has handles with transparency and I noticed, that they cannot be seen so good a

Re: [proposal]: Enhance visualisation of Handles

2012-12-11 Thread Armin Le Grand
Hi Regina, On 11.12.2012 15:36, Regina Henschel wrote: Hi Armin, getting bigger handles is good. But I'm not convinced, that transparency is good. Please try the handles in a presentation, which has a dark background, like some master pages in our new set. LibreOffice has handles with tr

Re: [proposal]: Enhance visualisation of Handles

2012-12-11 Thread Regina Henschel
Hi Armin, Armin Le Grand schrieb: Hi Regina, On 11.12.2012 15:36, Regina Henschel wrote: [..] More helpful for exact positions than transparency would be snap functions for handles and a tab in the size&position dialog for entering values directly. ?!? The geometry snaps (with all pos

Re: [proposal]: Enhance visualisation of Handles

2012-12-11 Thread Pedro Giffuni
Hello; - Original Message - > From: Regina Henschel  > > > I see no advantage of transparency. You loose the brightness and neon colors > and > get what? Please try it in LibreOffice. > > What do others think? Or I'm the only one who often use Draw? >  You are the only one that use

Re: [proposal]: Enhance visualisation of Handles

2012-12-12 Thread Armin Le Grand
Hi Regina, On 11.12.2012 21:44, Regina Henschel wrote: Hi Armin, Armin Le Grand schrieb: Hi Regina, On 11.12.2012 15:36, Regina Henschel wrote: [..] More helpful for exact positions than transparency would be snap functions for handles and a tab in the size&position dialog for ent

Re: [proposal]: Enhance visualisation of Handles

2012-12-13 Thread Armin Le Grand
Hi List, On 11.12.2012 14:15, Armin Le Grand wrote: Hi List, I took the time and started to look technically and bitmap'ally at the handles and how to make them some nicer, but also more useful (aka slightly transparent). For deeper information, please see the task (https://issues.ap

Re: [proposal]: Enhance visualisation of Handles

2012-12-13 Thread Kevin Grignon
Armin, Could you share a screen cap? Any chance of including rotation, shear and skew? Kevin On Dec 13, 2012, at 5:53 PM, Armin Le Grand wrote: >Hi List, > > On 11.12.2012 14:15, Armin Le Grand wrote: >>Hi List, >> >> I took the time and started to look technically and bitmap'ally

Re: [proposal]: Enhance visualisation of Handles

2012-12-13 Thread Armin Le Grand
Hi Kevin, On 13.12.2012 11:03, Kevin Grignon wrote: Armin, Could you share a screen cap? I could, but it will be much easier and more valuable when you wait for the next buildbot builds and install a AOO develop version. Only there will you be able to change everything yourself. I will

Re: [proposal]: Enhance visualisation of Handles

2012-12-13 Thread Regina Henschel
Hi Armin, Armin Le Grand schrieb: Hi Regina, On 11.12.2012 21:44, Regina Henschel wrote: Hi Armin, Armin Le Grand schrieb: Hi Regina, On 11.12.2012 15:36, Regina Henschel wrote: [..] More helpful for exact positions than transparency would be snap functions for handles and a ta

Re: [proposal]: Enhance visualisation of Handles

2012-12-13 Thread Armin Le Grand
Hi Regina, seen and grepped ;-) On 13.12.2012 16:09, Regina Henschel wrote: Hi Armin, Armin Le Grand schrieb: Hi Regina, On 11.12.2012 21:44, Regina Henschel wrote: Hi Armin, Armin Le Grand schrieb: Hi Regina, On 11.12.2012 15:36, Regina Henschel wrote: [..] More helpful

Re: [proposal]: Enhance visualisation of Handles

2012-12-14 Thread Andre Fischer
On 13.12.2012 11:09, Armin Le Grand wrote: Hi Kevin, On 13.12.2012 11:03, Kevin Grignon wrote: Armin, Could you share a screen cap? I could, but it will be much easier and more valuable when you wait for the next buildbot builds and install a AOO develop version. Only there will you be

Re: [proposal]: Enhance visualisation of Handles

2012-12-14 Thread Armin Le Grand
Hi Andre, On 14.12.2012 09:00, Andre Fischer wrote: On 13.12.2012 11:09, Armin Le Grand wrote: Hi Kevin, On 13.12.2012 11:03, Kevin Grignon wrote: Armin, Could you share a screen cap? I could, but it will be much easier and more valuable when you wait for the next buildbot builds

Re: [proposal]: Enhance visualisation of Handles

2012-12-14 Thread Andre Fischer
On 14.12.2012 10:08, Armin Le Grand wrote: Hi Andre, On 14.12.2012 09:00, Andre Fischer wrote: On 13.12.2012 11:09, Armin Le Grand wrote: Hi Kevin, On 13.12.2012 11:03, Kevin Grignon wrote: Armin, Could you share a screen cap? I could, but it will be much easier and more valuable

Re: [proposal]: Enhance visualisation of Handles

2012-12-14 Thread Armin Le Grand
On 14.12.2012 10:19, Andre Fischer wrote: On 14.12.2012 10:08, Armin Le Grand wrote: Hi Andre, On 14.12.2012 09:00, Andre Fischer wrote: On 13.12.2012 11:09, Armin Le Grand wrote: Hi Kevin, On 13.12.2012 11:03, Kevin Grignon wrote: Armin, Could you share a screen cap? I could, bu

Re: [proposal]: Enhance visualisation of Handles

2012-12-15 Thread Kevin Grignon
"come over to my desk" Luxury :) On Dec 14, 2012, at 4:32 PM, Armin Le Grand wrote: > On 14.12.2012 10:19, Andre Fischer wrote: >> On 14.12.2012 10:08, Armin Le Grand wrote: >>>Hi Andre, >>> >>> On 14.12.2012 09:00, Andre Fischer wrote: On 13.12.2012 11:09, Armin Le Grand wrote: >>>

Re: [proposal]: Enhance visualisation of Handles

2012-12-16 Thread Regina Henschel
Hi Armin, Armin Le Grand schrieb: Hi List, On 11.12.2012 14:15, Armin Le Grand wrote: Hi List, I took the time and started to look technically and bitmap'ally at the handles and how to make them some nicer, but also more useful (aka slightly transparent). For deeper information, plea

Re: [proposal]: Enhance visualisation of Handles

2012-12-16 Thread RGB ES
2012/12/16 Regina Henschel > Hi Armin, > > Armin Le Grand schrieb: > >> Hi List, >> >> >> On 11.12.2012 14:15, Armin Le Grand wrote: >> >>> Hi List, >>> >>> I took the time and started to look technically and bitmap'ally at the >>> handles and how to make them some nicer, but also more u

Re: [proposal]: Enhance visualisation of Handles

2012-12-17 Thread Armin Le Grand
Hi List, On 16.12.2012 15:30, RGB ES wrote: 2012/12/16 Regina Henschel --- snip --- The buildbot version has it now and I tried it. The transparency for the anchor icon is really a large improvement. And the handles have a good compromise between brightness and transparency. The draw cen