Re: help needed on ODF standard for auto indent for paragraphs

2015-08-24 Thread Kay Schenk
On 08/22/2015 08:15 AM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: In RTL (as well as TTB and BTT) the indentation will typically be in the reading direction. In future releases of Apache OpenOffice, the Chinese case is going to use double-character indentation when automatic indentation is specified in

Re: help needed on ODF standard for auto indent for paragraphs

2015-08-22 Thread Rory O'Farrell
On Fri, 21 Aug 2015 15:23:22 -0700 Dennis E. Hamilton dennis.hamil...@acm.org wrote: I suspect the Roman alphabet, conventional-font space-/indent-sizing is inapplicable for some Asian languages. (I hope the Asian setting is specifically for CJK (Chinese, Japanese, Korean) or we could be

RE: help needed on ODF standard for auto indent for paragraphs

2015-08-22 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
You can find the width that OpenOffice uses in the patch that is provided at https://bz.apache.org/ooo/attachment.cgi?id=84886action=diff. If auto-indent is set, nFirstLineOfs = GetFnt.GetSize(GetFnt.GetActual).Height. (in highly-simplified Java form for clarity). Recall that the ODF 1.2

Re: help needed on ODF standard for auto indent for paragraphs

2015-08-22 Thread Rory O'Farrell
I find that Arabic and Hebrew generally indent first line of a paragraph, but did not find any standard usage; the few examples I saw seem to use a one em amount (i.e. that used by the existing (Automatic setting in OpenOffice). I have found this on Chinese indents

RE: help needed on ODF standard for auto indent for paragraphs

2015-08-22 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
In RTL (as well as TTB and BTT) the indentation will typically be in the reading direction. In future releases of Apache OpenOffice, the Chinese case is going to use double-character indentation when automatic indentation is specified in the paragraph style. The change is also being made in

Re: help needed on ODF standard for auto indent for paragraphs

2015-08-22 Thread Kay Schenk
On Fri, Aug 21, 2015 at 11:37 PM, Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie wrote: On Fri, 21 Aug 2015 15:23:22 -0700 Dennis E. Hamilton dennis.hamil...@acm.org wrote: I suspect the Roman alphabet, conventional-font space-/indent-sizing is inapplicable for some Asian languages. (I hope the Asian

help needed on ODF standard for auto indent for paragraphs

2015-08-21 Thread Kay Schenk
This is in regard to issue https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=126476 I can't easily locate what the ODF 1.2 standard is on calculation for a first line auto indent for a paragraph. Well I found this -- http://officeopenxml.com/WPindentation.php but it doesn't make a lot of sense to me. :/

Re: help needed on ODF standard for auto indent for paragraphs

2015-08-21 Thread Rory O'Farrell
On Fri, 21 Aug 2015 13:57:59 -0700 Kay Schenk kay.sch...@gmail.com wrote: This is in regard to issue https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=126476 I can't easily locate what the ODF 1.2 standard is on calculation for a first line auto indent for a paragraph. Well I found this --

RE: help needed on ODF standard for auto indent for paragraphs

2015-08-21 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
I suspect the Roman alphabet, conventional-font space-/indent-sizing is inapplicable for some Asian languages. (I hope the Asian setting is specifically for CJK (Chinese, Japanese, Korean) or we could be having problems with some very complex language scripts as well. Rory, I don't believe

Re: help needed on ODF standard for auto indent for paragraphs

2015-08-21 Thread Kay Schenk
On Fri, Aug 21, 2015 at 3:23 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton dennis.hamil...@acm.org wrote: I suspect the Roman alphabet, conventional-font space-/indent-sizing is inapplicable for some Asian languages. (I hope the Asian setting is specifically for CJK (Chinese, Japanese, Korean) or we could be

RE: help needed on ODF standard for auto indent for paragraphs

2015-08-21 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
Apparently, Friday is ODF question day [;). I suspect that default indentation amounts are nowhere specified in the ODF 1.2 Specification and it is an implementation-defined behavior. I looked at every occurrence of indent* in the ODF 1.2 specification and nowhere are there default values