Re: [OSM-dev] Sphere / Web-Mercator

2008-10-09 Thread Thomas Wood
See also http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Slippy_map_tilenames 2008/10/9 Dominik Spies <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Hi, > > I'm trying to implement some projection-code for a project of mine.. > But I have some trouble with the Mercator projection. > > I understood that the projection we use in t

[josm-dev] testing server

2008-10-09 Thread Petr Nejedly
After a longer pause, I'd like to move on with -ng and implement server I/O. Is there a public testing server or do I have to deploy one locally to test the implementation (and e.g. 0.6 API)? I don't like to test against live server and while I do plan writing a mock server for unit testing, I mi

Re: [OSM-dev] Database Schema

2008-10-09 Thread Brett Henderson
Thanks for all the help. I now have a working rake installation and a database at version 15. I've installed the following gems. gem install -v=2.0.2 rails gem install libxml-ruby (produced a number of what appeared to be errors, hopefully not an issue) gem install -v=0.9.93 composite_primary_ke

Re: [OSM-dev] way 7062297, is this new?

2008-10-09 Thread Shaun McDonald
On 9 Oct 2008, at 22:20, Ldp wrote: > Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists) wrote: > >> But then >> again since it's been pointed out that only 35 current cases exist >> and I > > exist_ed_ > > I have it on good authority that all those cases have been > eradicated by > now. However they will sti

Re: [OSM-dev] way 7062297, is this new?

2008-10-09 Thread Ldp
Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists) wrote: > But then > again since it's been pointed out that only 35 current cases exist and I exist_ed_ I have it on good authority that all those cases have been eradicated by now. -- Lennard ___ dev mailing list de

Re: [OSM-dev] way 7062297, is this new?

2008-10-09 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
Hugh Barnes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >Sent: 09 October 2008 1:08 PM >To: dev@openstreetmap.org >Cc: Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists) >Subject: Re: [OSM-dev] way 7062297, is this new? > >On Thursday 09 October 2008 18:56:42 Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists) >wrote: >> Duplicate keys were perf

Re: [OSM-dev] way 7062297, is this new?

2008-10-09 Thread Matthias Julius
Hugh Barnes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I'd be curious to see if anyone else sees a need. I find delimited strings > inherently unsatisfactory to work with, so I also wonder if there are any > other workarounds that we could at least recommend? Multiple values for a tag is certainly useful an

Re: [OSM-dev] way 7062297, is this new?

2008-10-09 Thread Stefan de Konink
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Matthias Julius schreef: > Or make it a normal index instead of a primary key. Then you can have > duplicates. The database I am using does this under the hood already. The constraint I have implemented was because: - - I have an update algorithm t

Re: [OSM-dev] way 7062297, is this new?

2008-10-09 Thread Matthias Julius
"Ian Dees" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 9:35 PM, Stefan de Konink <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> >> >> No way! The database[1] uses indexing under the hood automatically. So >> every created_by k or JOSM v is automatically indexed. This gives a >> significant space reducti

Re: [josm-dev] Italian translation for JOSM

2008-10-09 Thread Marcin Floryan
On Wed, Oct 08, 2008 at 08:51:42AM +0200, Giovanni Mascellani wrote: > The Italian OpenStreetMap community is working on translation JOSM to > Italian. The job is still in progress, but a first result is available > at [1] (about 700 strings translated). Could it be integrated into the > SVN? Hi!

Re: [OSM-dev] Sphere / Web-Mercator

2008-10-09 Thread Dane Springmeyer
Hi Dominic, If you are into reading, here's some code that nicely commented: http://trac.osgeo.org/gdal/browser/sandbox/klokan/globalmaptiles.py Cheers, Dane On Oct 9, 2008, at 8:38 AM, Dominik Spies wrote: > Hi, > > I'm trying to implement some projection-code for a project of mine.. > But

[OSM-dev] Sphere / Web-Mercator

2008-10-09 Thread Dominik Spies
Hi, I'm trying to implement some projection-code for a project of mine.. But I have some trouble with the Mercator projection. I understood that the projection we use in the slippy map is called Sphere / Web-Mercator, or EPSG:900913 or EPSG:3785 and is also used by Google, MS, Yahoo and so on..

Re: [OSM-dev] way 7062297, is this new?

2008-10-09 Thread Stefan de Konink
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Stefan de Konink schreef: >> you'll notice that "JMEditor", whatever that is, is responsible for >> the node errors. and all the way errors are duplicates, so there is >> never a conflict in reducing them. if you'd like to fix these then >> that woul

Re: [OSM-dev] way 7062297, is this new?

2008-10-09 Thread Stefan de Konink
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Matt Amos schreef: > we're working on it and it'll be ready as soon as its ready. if you'd > like to help then that would be fantastic. If you don't mind I'll implement a 0.6 api in my own server ;) > imho, the most likely place to look for the err

Re: [OSM-dev] way 7062297, is this new?

2008-10-09 Thread Matt Amos
On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 2:31 PM, Stefan de Konink <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If 0.6 is not supporting it, it should not be possible to enter the data > today. (imho) lets do a 0.5.5 release with this fix in. hmm, we should include referential integrity as well, since that can cause similar types

Re: [OSM-dev] way 7062297, is this new?

2008-10-09 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Stefan de Konink wrote: > Can I conclude that regression testing is something that should be > implemented for any editor? Or do you place the blame yourself at the > API that allows this, while any other editor will drop this? I love your "should be". You must be new round here. Yes, maybe regr

Re: [OSM-dev] way 7062297, is this new?

2008-10-09 Thread Floris Looijesteijn
especially for you, google invented 'mail goggles': http://gmailblog.blogspot.com/2008/10/new-in-labs-stop-sending-mail-you-later.html no seriously: stefan is a nice guy and he made a valid point here. i am also really amazed this is possible. but imo we should blame the api, not potlatch. gree

Re: [OSM-dev] Database Schema

2008-10-09 Thread Tom Hughes
Shaun McDonald wrote: > The api06 branch will check out fine :-) > Especially now that I have added the classic_pagination plugin to svn > directly, rather than having it access an out of date external. I should > probably back port this change ASAP. > http://trac.openstreetmap.org/changeset/110

Re: [OSM-dev] Database Schema

2008-10-09 Thread Shaun McDonald
On 9 Oct 2008, at 14:24, Shaun McDonald wrote: [...] I've fixed the externals issue I had. That was dumb on my part. I checked out a few hours ago and forgot it failed due to external sites being down. I've used TomH's vendor.zip to get the external files. The api06 branch will check

Re: [OSM-dev] Move to rails 2.1.1 for api 0.6?

2008-10-09 Thread Tom Hughes
Shaun McDonald wrote: > Would it be safe to assume that for api 0.6 we can move to rails 2.1.1? Well not until somebody has investigated the problems and found out what needs to be done to make it work. It's been a while since I worked on it so I can't remember now what the problems were. > If

Re: [OSM-dev] way 7062297, is this new?

2008-10-09 Thread Stefan de Konink
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Andy Allan schreef: > I'd suggest that you calm down a bit. This behaviour is fully > supported by the API, so your assumption that {wayid,key} can be made > a primary key is the problem. I had a nice dream about walking corpses in a theme park, so

Re: [OSM-dev] Move to rails 2.1.1 for api 0.6? (was: Database Schema)

2008-10-09 Thread Shaun McDonald
On 9 Oct 2008, at 13:18, Tom Hughes wrote: Brett Henderson wrote: [...] Do what it says and install 2.0.2 as 2.1.x does not work with our code at the moment. Tom, Would it be safe to assume that for api 0.6 we can move to rails 2.1.1? If so, I'll work on any problems that might arise wh

Re: [OSM-dev] Database Schema

2008-10-09 Thread Shaun McDonald
On 9 Oct 2008, at 13:53, Brett Henderson wrote: MilesTogoe wrote: ruby and rails have gone thru some changes the past few months - you most likely need a newer gems package - try downloading the latest gems source and compiling that - then from the newer gems install the rails packages I curr

Re: [OSM-dev] Database Schema

2008-10-09 Thread Tom Hughes
Brett Henderson wrote: > I currently have rubygems 1.2.0. I see the latest is 1.3.0. I don't > know much about ruby. So should I upgrade to 1.3.0? I'd rather not > install from source unless I have to ... The version of rubygems you have is largely irrelevant - that is just the ruby package

Re: [OSM-dev] Database Schema

2008-10-09 Thread Brett Henderson
MilesTogoe wrote: > ruby and rails have gone thru some changes the past few months - you > most likely need a newer gems package - try downloading the latest > gems source and compiling that - then from the newer gems install the > rails packages I currently have rubygems 1.2.0. I see the late

Re: [OSM-dev] Database Schema

2008-10-09 Thread Tom Hughes
Brett Henderson wrote: > I haven't had much luck either. Does anybody have any suggestions on > where I've gone wrong below. > > I installed the following packages. > > yum install ruby ruby-devel ruby-irb ruby-libs ruby-rdoc ruby-ri rubygems > ruby-sqlite3 > yum install ruby-mysql ruby-postg

Re: [OSM-dev] Database Schema

2008-10-09 Thread MilesTogoe
Brett Henderson wrote: > Brett Henderson wrote: > >> Hi Sagar, >> >> I hope to get time to test this at home tonight but hopefully others >> have better answers in the meantime. >> >> These links might also help in the meantime: >> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/The_Rails_Port >> http:

Re: [OSM-dev] way 7062297, is this new?

2008-10-09 Thread Hugh Barnes
On Thursday 09 October 2008 19:02:44 Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists) wrote: > Points noted Hugh but in reality it's probably easy enough to find > alternative solutions to these tagging questions. +1 > Since duplicate keys in > the current data have essentially been legacy data or input errors

Re: [OSM-dev] way 7062297, is this new?

2008-10-09 Thread Hugh Barnes
On Thursday 09 October 2008 18:56:42 Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists) wrote: > Duplicate keys were perfectly valid > then and indeed I recall we discussed how we might use duplication for > tagging purposes. It was only the lack of support in the editors that > stopped duplication in its tracks. O

Re: [OSM-dev] Database Schema

2008-10-09 Thread Brett Henderson
Brett Henderson wrote: > > I haven't had much luck either. Does anybody have any suggestions on > where I've gone wrong below. > I suspect my errors have something to do with some missing externals. I better fix that before making any more noise and wasting anybody's time. ___

Re: [OSM-dev] Database Schema

2008-10-09 Thread Brett Henderson
Brett Henderson wrote: > Hi Sagar, > > I hope to get time to test this at home tonight but hopefully others > have better answers in the meantime. > > These links might also help in the meantime: > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/The_Rails_Port > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Rai

Re: [OSM-dev] way 7062297, is this new?

2008-10-09 Thread bvh
On Thu, Oct 09, 2008 at 04:34:37PM +1000, Hugh Barnes wrote: > Spurred on by this, I tried it in Merkaartor. The UI accepted my input and I > assumed all was good. I just remembered to follow this up and it appears the > data didn't make it. Possibly the last occurrence of the tag in the app was

Re: [OSM-dev] way 7062297, is this new?

2008-10-09 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
Points noted Hugh but in reality it's probably easy enough to find alternative solutions to these tagging questions. Since duplicate keys in the current data have essentially been legacy data or input errors of some sort I suspect the number that exist right now is quite low. That's why I say it's

Re: [OSM-dev] way 7062297, is this new?

2008-10-09 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
Way way back in the long distant past of the project SteveC arranged for key/value pairs to be used for adding information about objects (Nodes, Segments and the unused Areas at the time) but in doing so did not set any restrictions on their use whatsoever. In fact all tags were concatenated simply

Re: [OSM-dev] way 7062297, is this new?

2008-10-09 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Stefan de Konink wrote: > Then disable *ANY* edits with this borked editor: "Potlatch 0.10c" and > revert back to a version that did not produce duplicates. Er, hate to rain on your parade, but if you'd actually have taken 0.1us to look, you'd see that Potlatch 0.10c has already been supe

Re: [OSM-dev] way 7062297, is this new?

2008-10-09 Thread Tom Hughes
Stefan de Konink wrote: > Then disable *ANY* edits with this borked editor: "Potlatch 0.10c" and > revert back to a version that did not produce duplicates. > > I'm currently writing a Foundation member over this corruption, it > breaks far too many things. It isn't corruption - as Grant explain

Re: [OSM-dev] way 7062297, is this new?

2008-10-09 Thread Tom Hughes
Hugh Barnes wrote: > Can we talk about why they should be banned? It's a perfectly valid metadata > construct to have multiple values for a property (key) for a single object. The main reason they are being banned is that rails (and databases in general) works much better if every tables has a