[OSM-dev] Ruby Summer of Code

http://rubysoc.org/ anyone want to see if we qualify? Yours &c. Steve ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev

Re: [OSM-dev] Project Proposal - Waze Integration

Sorry, phone keeps pressing wrong buttons for me, I may give up soon... but I think given good client software this could be a valuable project. At the very least, for any support for temporal restrictions we need something like this, and OpenSatNav would be able to make good use of this, difficult

Re: [OSM-dev] Project Proposal - Waze Integration

Hey I believe with a good UI (eg when the client software detects a user is going slower that expect On Mar 24, 2010 8:35 PM, "Eric Marsden" wrote: > "pr" == peter writes: pr> I have proposed a student project called "Incorporation of Traffic pr> Information and OpenStreetMap data"[1]

Re: [OSM-dev] [Imports] Inserting OSM data

At 2010-03-22 12:02, Nic Roets wrote: >... >Unfortunately it has already happened many times. Below is a list of >the third party identifiers that I have found. >... > > >hdop >sat >pdop >fix >vdop To pick a nit, these are likely not ids, but instead useful info provided via GPS. I recognize: hd

Re: [OSM-dev] GSoC - Travel Time Analysis

Hi Lukas, I am glad you are interested in contgributing to OpenStreetMap. You will see that today there has been quite a bit of discussion on this list about collecting and analysing traffic information. I am sure you could make a valuable contribution to such a project. You are suggesting basing

[OSM-dev] GSoC - Travel Time Analysis

Hi, I would like to introduce myself. My name is Lukas Kabrt and I am student at the Czech technical university in Prague. I am maping for about a year and I'm really enjoying it. Over the past few months I participated in import of administrative boundaries and in import of address points in the

Re: [OSM-dev] Project Proposal - Waze Integration

Hi, There have been a few good points raised while I have been away. I had not thought of producing a live traffic info service, but I can see it is possible. Just needs some careful up front design. The other is that the Waze client is actually a very nice little application (shame about the map

Re: [OSM-dev] Project Proposal - Waze Integration

> "pr" == peter writes: pr> I have proposed a student project called "Incorporation of Traffic pr> Information and OpenStreetMap data"[1] , which has similar goals like pr> the integration of waze. But deals more with the server part of the pr> application and will be (of course) as

Re: [osmosis-dev] Database is empty after five days of importing

That makes sense. My requirement is that I must continue querying the old data while importing the new, larger data - which can take a long time as we know. How can I achieve this? On 24.03.2010 19:24, Frederik Ramm wrote: > Possible, but impractical, because you would spend more time to create >

Re: [OSM-dev] Project Proposal - Waze Integration

it would be awesome to have a PND software base that fed back to OSM like waze does On Mar 24, 2010, at 1:46 AM, Graham Jones wrote: > Hi Folks, > A student has contacted me about a potential Google Summer of Code proposal > to provide integration between OSM and Waze > (http://wiki.openstreet

Re: [OSM-dev] Doing street names from aerial imagery

On 24 Mar 2010, at 10:52, John Smith wrote: > This is a routing problem, hopefully someone has already solved it. > > If there is a suburb of streets mapped from aerial imagery and you > have several volunteers how do you work out the most efficient path > for all the voluneteers to take to grab

Re: [OSM-dev] Project Proposal - Waze Integration

Oh, and OpenSatNav is moving to launchpad, the old host was unreliable. S On Mar 24, 2010 5:36 PM, "peter" wrote: On Wed, 2010-03-24 at 17:03 +, steve brown wrote: > The only thing I think you have missed is t... Yes, your are absolutely right. I forgot to add this important issue, will do i

Re: [OSM-dev] Project Proposal - Waze Integration

On 25 March 2010 03:36, peter wrote: > Yes, your are absolutely right. I forgot to add this important issue, > will do it soon. It is clear that traffic information has temporal > element as well (spatial-temporal data). There is often patterns in traffic information that can be gleened from aver

Re: [OSM-dev] Project Proposal - Waze Integration

On Wed, 2010-03-24 at 17:03 +, steve brown wrote: > The only thing I think you have missed is thinking about the temporal > aspect of your data. For instance, I want a database that I can tell > "roadworks here for 2 days" or "crash here, 2 hours until its > cleared". Yes, your are absolutel

Re: [OSM-dev] GSoC: POI search

Graham Jones wrote: > I think that you correctly identify that fast data access is essential > to have a good user experience for an interactive map. The > interactive map demonstrations that are currently available can feel a > bit sluggish (presumably because of XAPI response times, but I am n

Re: [OSM-dev] Project Proposal - Waze Integration

Hey Peter That looks very interesting. I'm actually halfway through a proposal for the same thing (for someone else to do) but you have got it all covered. The only thing I think you have missed is thinking about the temporal aspect of your data. For instance, I want a database that I can tell "r

Re: [osmosis-dev] Database is empty after five days of importing

I keep replying myself ;) In the meantime I dropped the whole database and started with a clean one. The import of austria.osm finished after about 100 minutes and everything seems to be in the DB. Probably the problems were due to an inconsistent state of the DB. I got 'Caused by: org.postgresql.u

Re: [OSM-dev] Project Proposal - Waze Integration

Hello I have proposed a student project called "Incorporation of Traffic Information and OpenStreetMap data"[1] , which has similar goals like the integration of waze. But deals more with the server part of the application and will be (of course) as open as openstreetmap is. regards peter [1]ht

[OSM-dev] hstore / db schema Was: Query-Formats

On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 01:30:04PM +0100, Peter Körner wrote: > Hi > > On the osm dev-server we're playing around with the postgres-hstore > extension which allows us to repond to xapi-like queries, but with > already assembled LIESTRINGs and such neat things. Which is not per se a feature of h

Re: [OSM-dev] Removing Minutely and Hourly Changesets

On 01/-10/-28163 08:59 PM, Bernhard zwischenbrugger wrote: > hi >>> If all the changesets would go to an xmpp stream, it would be a >>> really easy to such a liveticker for osm. >> >> There was a site in the past where this was visible. I have created an >> OpenLayers implementation to visualize it

Re: [OSM-dev] Doing street names from aerial imagery

On 25 March 2010 01:06, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > You can do a lot based on aerial imagery, but even more things you > can't derive from them, or you can only derive if you know that it is > there. I started to map fences, walls and other barriers, but informal > openings in them, their height,

Re: [OSM-dev] Doing street names from aerial imagery

2010/3/24 John Smith : > On 24 March 2010 21:47, andrzej zaborowski wrote: >> geometry.  A complete algorithm would have to go through each possible >> combination of all the routing parameters (oneways, traffic calming, >> label on one end, label on the other end, etc etc) and find a solution > >

Re: [OSM-dev] Fwd: Re: Project Proposal - Waze Integration

hi > The quality of IPhone GPS-traces is well known to be bad. > On iPhone 3GS the GPS is ok. The 3G has a bad GPS. Here an iPhonetrack in Phnom Penh city: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/File:Iphone_map_with_gps_tracker.png If I do that with my hardware GPS tracker, the result is not bette

Re: [OSM-dev] Removing Minutely and Hourly Changesets

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Op 24-03-10 13:46, Bernhard zwischenbrugger schreef: > Maybe you think 5 minutes are no problem. I based it on the minutely stuff. And as I have pointed out to some other people already. This 'yet another glue layer in database replication' still d

Re: [OSM-dev] Removing Minutely and Hourly Changesets

hi >> If all the changesets would go to an xmpp stream, it would be a really >> easy to such a liveticker for osm. >> > > There was a site in the past where this was visible. I have created an > OpenLayers implementation to visualize it. So even with what is publish > now, not a line of XMPP

Re: [OSM-dev] Fwd: Re: Project Proposal - Waze Integration

On 24 March 2010 22:33, Thomas Meller wrote: > It might be possible to write plugins which deliver data to waze and other > services at the same time. I think this would not break their copyright > conditions. But to be sure, I would discuss this well on osm-legal. If it's your data you can do

[OSM-dev] Fwd: Re: Project Proposal - Waze Integration

Original-Nachricht Datum: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 11:05:53 +0100 Von: "Thomas Meller" An: Nic Roets Betreff: Re: [OSM-dev] Project Proposal - Waze Integration I am glad they build their own map. The project will get stuck. The social mechanics won't support complete map data in rural

Re: [OSM-dev] Doing street names from aerial imagery

On 24 March 2010 22:08, John Robert Peterson wrote: > Could road passability be calulated usefully from road cureyness? or would > it be bust simply to use length? Both the length and how tight the curves are important, tighter the curves, the slower you must go and the longer the way the longer

Re: [OSM-dev] Doing street names from aerial imagery

On 24 March 2010 21:53, Gregory wrote: > Why don't you just man-up (or nerd-up) and go full out with getting house > numbers. Think of it as a progressive system, first comes the physical street information (the ways), then comes the names and then comes the street numbering. The map becomes prog

Re: [OSM-dev] Removing Minutely and Hourly Changesets

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Op 24-03-10 13:02, Bernhard zwischenbrugger schreef: > If all the changesets would go to an xmpp stream, it would be a really > easy to such a liveticker for osm. There was a site in the past where this was visible. I have created an OpenLayers imp

Re: [OSM-dev] Doing street names from aerial imagery

On 24 March 2010 21:58, Jonathan Bennett wrote: > You need to bear in mind that there will be errors in the tracing anyway > -- roads marked that aren't there, and some paths missed that are there. > Your volunteers will need to take this into account as well, so sticking > to a pre-defined route

Re: [OSM-dev] Doing street names from aerial imagery

So we can assume that a bounding area for what we are interested in will be supplied; Assume that there are no oneway systems in place unless that data is already on the server; Assume that all roads are equally passable unless otherwise staed in the database (either by speed restictions or other

Re: [OSM-dev] Doing street names from aerial imagery

On Wed, 24 Mar 2010 21:32:59 +1000, John Smith wrote: > On 24 March 2010 21:28, Tom Hughes wrote: >> Wanting to divide the job among multiple people probably just makes it >> harder, but as it's NP-complete to start with I'm not sure that matters >> ;-) > > As Gregory points out it would be simp

Re: [OSM-dev] Removing Minutely and Hourly Changesets

hi > > I would be interested in that as well, ideally a file that is > generated every hour with a fixed named scheme we can easily track > for. Can this be reactivated? Why has it been disabled after all? I would like to have that live. At: https://world.waze.com/livemap/ they have a live ticke

Re: [OSM-dev] Doing street names from aerial imagery

On 24/03/2010 10:52, John Smith wrote: > This is a routing problem, hopefully someone has already solved it. > > If there is a suburb of streets mapped from aerial imagery and you > have several volunteers how do you work out the most efficient path > for all the voluneteers to take to grab street

Re: [OSM-dev] Doing street names from aerial imagery

On 24 March 2010 04:32, John Smith wrote: > On 24 March 2010 21:28, Tom Hughes wrote: > > Wanting to divide the job among multiple people probably just makes it > > harder, but as it's NP-complete to start with I'm not sure that matters > ;-) > > As Gregory points out it would be simple if it wa

Re: [OSM-dev] Doing street names from aerial imagery

On 24 March 2010 21:47, andrzej zaborowski wrote: > geometry. A complete algorithm would have to go through each possible > combination of all the routing parameters (oneways, traffic calming, > label on one end, label on the other end, etc etc) and find a solution Depending on the resolution of

Re: [OSM-dev] Doing street names from aerial imagery

On 24 March 2010 12:31, John Robert Peterson wrote: > However due to the huge number of variables involved, I'd be surprised if > there was any way a computer could do it faster or better: <...> > When you arrive on the ground you can find that there are names only at one > end of a grid of street

Re: [OSM-dev] Doing street names from aerial imagery

On 24 March 2010 21:31, John Robert Peterson wrote: > Are you willing to accept that if a road changes name part way though, and > that missing this is a reasonable error? What is the probability of this occurring? I'm guessing fairly low, although you could minimise this by targeting the interse

Re: [OSM-dev] Doing street names from aerial imagery

On 24 March 2010 21:28, Tom Hughes wrote: > Wanting to divide the job among multiple people probably just makes it > harder, but as it's NP-complete to start with I'm not sure that matters ;-) As Gregory points out it would be simple if it was a simple gridded layout and if there was only one per

Re: [OSM-dev] Doing street names from aerial imagery

Fundamentally this is a simple application of some of the shortest path algorithms that are studied at university computer science and mathematics departments adnausium. There are however a bunch of complications that make it a little less simple, and is likely best worked out in each individual i

Re: [OSM-dev] Doing street names from aerial imagery

On 24/03/10 10:52, John Smith wrote: > This is a routing problem, hopefully someone has already solved it. > > If there is a suburb of streets mapped from aerial imagery and you > have several volunteers how do you work out the most efficient path > for all the voluneteers to take to grab street n

Re: [josm-dev] How does merging exactly work ?

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Hey colliar schrieb: > I was wondering if the order is important when merging 2 layers ? Is there anybody who can answer my question ? Depending on the order of layers I get different conflicts. Why ? Is it important which layer is active or does

Re: [OSM-dev] Removing Minutely and Hourly Changesets

Lennard schrieb: >> The heavies task is 1. Maybe we could set up a database for this task.. >> Peter > > I rather liked Brett's earlier suggestion to have this solved on the diff > server itself. > > So you could "wget http://diffserver/state/minute/20100301_00";, and > the web service would

Re: [OSM-dev] Removing Minutely and Hourly Changesets

> The heavies task is 1. Maybe we could set up a database for this task.. > Peter I rather liked Brett's earlier suggestion to have this solved on the diff server itself. So you could "wget http://diffserver/state/minute/20100301_00";, and the web service would find the right state file and

[OSM-dev] Mobile App for OSM‏

Hi, I had initially thought embedding Waze to OSM and then build it as Graham has mentioned earlier.As pointed that Waze had some issues,why not we create apps for the mobiles which goes good with OSM.As Waze apps are opensource,we can take the code from waze to start building OSM maps a

[OSM-dev] Doing street names from aerial imagery

This is a routing problem, hopefully someone has already solved it. If there is a suburb of streets mapped from aerial imagery and you have several volunteers how do you work out the most efficient path for all the voluneteers to take to grab street names with minimal overlap etc. ___

[OSM-dev] Mobile App for OSM

Hi, I had initially thought embedding Waze to OSM and then build it as Graham has mentioned earlier.As pointed that Waze had some issues,why not we create apps for the mobiles which goes good with OSM.As Waze apps are opensource,we can take the code from waze to start building OSM maps as

Re: [OSM-dev] Removing Minutely and Hourly Changesets

Hi all, > I just noticed, that the minute diffs are not here anymore. > My tool http://datenkueche.com/osmlive did use this files. > > Is there a possibility to find a file if I have only the time? > > For the old system I used: > > $delta=(int) $_GET['delta']; > $time1=time()-7200-360 -$delta; > $

Re: [OSM-dev] osbsql2osm Windows binary

> compile it for me? http://toolserver.org/~mazder/temp/osbsql2osm-0.3.1-cygwin-win32.zip Peter ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev

[OSM-dev] osbsql2osm Windows binary

Hi! In http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/DE:All_in_one_Garmin_Map#Openstreetbugs the tool osbsql2osm in mentioned. But it is only available as C-sourcecode. Does anyone have a windows binary for that or could compile it for me? Thank you! Christian ___

Re: [osmosis-dev] Database is empty after five days of importing

I tried with an even smaller excerpt now (only 257 KB compressed) and it worked! There's actually data in the tables now. # bzcat ~/install/osm-dumps/liechtenstein.osm.bz2 | ./osmosis-0.34/bin/osmosis --read-xml-0.6 file=- --write-apidb-0.6 populateCurrentTables=yes host="localhost" database="..."

Re: [OSM-dev] Project Proposal - Waze Integration

On 24 March 2010 18:17, Nic Roets wrote: > 2. A repository for GPX data that does not have the privacy concerns > our repository current have. I've suggested this a couple of times and someone else was proposing solutions but nothing ever came of it since neither of us knew enough ruby to do some

Re: [OSM-dev] Removing Minutely and Hourly Changesets

> Any idea how to do that with the new system? Hmmm the procedure ist normally: 1. find the sequenceNumber corrsponding to your date and save it 2. fetch /minute-replicate/state.txt 3. count from the number saved before to the one named in state.txt 3.1. fetch the changeset file 3.2 process it 3.3.

[OSM-dev] Fwd: LinkedGeoData Google Code Project Started

FYI: The linked geodata for OSM (rdf) has released code today http://code.google.com/p/linkedgeodata/ -- Forwarded message -- From: Jens Lehmann Date: Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 9:31 AM Subject: LinkedGeoData Google Code Project Started To: linked-geo-d...@googlegroups.com Hello, a

Re: [OSM-dev] Tile stitcher?

Alan, Alan Mintz wrote: > Is there a simple, hopefully command-line or config-file driven tool that I > can use to generate a single JPEG from multiple JPEGs? The "montage" tool from the ImageMagick suite can do that. It has an array of command line options; you would use it somehow like this:

Re: [OSM-dev] Project Proposal - Waze Integration

Hello Graham, AFAIK Waze wants to build their own map of the world and sees OSM as competition. Waze has already imported TIGER, which is PD and I don't think Waze will be a viable concept without TIGER. SteveC reviewed their Iphone app on his blog. There is however scope for building our own Waz

Re: [OSM-dev] Project Proposal - Waze Integration

Hi, Graham Jones wrote: >1. For some reason, Waze seem to be producing their own map rather > than using OSM as the basis - does anyone know why? The student > says he has contacted Waze and they said it was because of > licensing issues - this is a surprise to me, because I

Re: [OSM-dev] Query-Formats

Solution: documentation. Stefan Op 24 mrt 2010 om 08:35 heeft Peter Körner het volgende geschreven:\ >> The NYTimes version can't the Cherokee version can. And >> administration >> of 'certain query types' is usually not the idea of a public SQL >> interface. Anyway you could of course make

[OSM-dev] Project Proposal - Waze Integration

Hi Folks, A student has contacted me about a potential Google Summer of Code proposal to provide integration between OSM and Waze ( http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/GSoC_Project_Ideas_2010#Waze_Integration ). I had never heard of Waze before, but it seems to be a combinatio

Re: [OSM-dev] Query-Formats

> The NYTimes version can't the Cherokee version can. And administration > of 'certain query types' is usually not the idea of a public SQL > interface. Anyway you could of course make a view on the data that only > provides select capabilities. The problem is that the queries must be formated in

Re: [OSM-dev] [HOT] Open Street Map

On 24 March 2010 16:48, jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com wrote: > Otherwise, you can setup a mapnik renderer to render you own maps. > > setting up your own server is involved, so be prepared to do alot of work. I haven't tried this, but a simpler option is to grab a vmware image someone has prepar