Re: [OSM-dev] [OSM-talk] When mental models go wrong: OpenStreetMap

2008-07-05 Thread m*sh
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Dave, > That's cool. > There's no question we need better editors, and any improvements you > can help with will really help. > If you have any coding experience then check out the code in svn and > see what you can do :-) I'll try it the other w

[OSM-dev] [OSM-talk] When mental models go wrong: OpenStreetMap]

2008-07-04 Thread m*sh
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Dave Stubbs wrote: > Yeah, there's no really good reason why you need to edit in that > order, other than it's easier to program, and probably more how most > people think. No it's not. > Our dynamic ontology, and largely tag ambivalent editors are w

Re: [OSM-dev] [OSM-talk] When mental models go wrong: OpenStreetMap

2008-07-04 Thread Dave Stubbs
On Fri, Jul 4, 2008 at 3:05 PM, m*sh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Am Fr, 4.07.2008, 12:39, schrieb Erik Johansson: >> This has come up before, in different ways each time. I know started >> thinking that any editor would first let you choose the type, and then >> let you draw it, like in Google M

Re: [OSM-dev] [OSM-talk] When mental models go wrong: OpenStreetMap

2008-07-04 Thread Iván Sánchez Ortega
El Viernes, 4 de Julio de 2008, Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists) escribió: > m*sh wrote: > >Why should there be any order at all? [...] > > If its not ordered logically, how would you route over it? Easy: http://xkcd.com/407/ Cheers, -- -- Iván Sánchez Ortega <

Re: [OSM-dev] [OSM-talk] When mental models go wrong: OpenStreetMap

2008-07-04 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
m*sh wrote: >Sent: 04 July 2008 3:05 PM >To: dev@openstreetmap.org >Subject: Re: [OSM-dev] [OSM-talk] When mental models go wrong: >OpenStreetMap > > >Am Fr, 4.07.2008, 12:39, schrieb Erik Johansson: >> This has come up before, in different ways each time. I know s

Re: [OSM-dev] [OSM-talk] When mental models go wrong: OpenStreetMap

2008-07-04 Thread m*sh
Am Fr, 4.07.2008, 12:39, schrieb Erik Johansson: > This has come up before, in different ways each time. I know started > thinking that any editor would first let you choose the type, and then > let you draw it, like in Google Map Maker. But since we had the > segments untagged in the beginning I

Re: [OSM-dev] [OSM-talk] When mental models go wrong: OpenStreetMap

2008-07-04 Thread hy
> But kudos to you, most people try to normalise the data model onto > relations, but normalising to nodes is thinking outside the box. I didn't say that we do not need relations. > Of > course it's basically a tag version of segments which were ditched due > to the extra processing requirements

Re: [OSM-dev] [OSM-talk] When mental models go wrong: OpenStreetMap

2008-07-04 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
Dave Stubbs wrote: >Sent: 04 July 2008 9:14 AM >To: m*sh >Cc: dev@openstreetmap.org >Subject: Re: [OSM-dev] [OSM-talk] When mental models go wrong: >OpenStreetMap > >On Fri, Jul 4, 2008 at 7:20 AM, m*sh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSA

Re: [OSM-dev] [OSM-talk] When mental models go wrong: OpenStreetMap

2008-07-04 Thread Dave Stubbs
On Fri, Jul 4, 2008 at 7:20 AM, m*sh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Lauri Hahne wrote: >> [...] >> >> 1. Ways >> >> - There are one kind of ways in the database. Ways can have attributes >> (tags) but aren't required. >> - The tagging scheme suggest

Re: [OSM-dev] [OSM-talk] When mental models go wrong: OpenStreetMap

2008-07-03 Thread m*sh
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Lauri Hahne wrote: > [...] > > 1. Ways > > - There are one kind of ways in the database. Ways can have attributes > (tags) but aren't required. > - The tagging scheme suggest there are many kinds of ways (highway, > cycleway, aeroway...) > - Potlatch