Re: [OSM-dev] New Map Style feedback

2015-11-03 Thread Paul Fox
i'm mostly a read-only participant on this list, but i do have a question: i'm currently seeing several places where the map style changes based on my zoom level. i assume this is a caching problem, likely in my browser (google chrome). should i be surprised at this? it's a little disconcerting

Re: [OSM-dev] New Map Style feedback

2015-11-03 Thread joost schouppe
I agree that knowing which roads are toll and which aren't is super interesting. However, there's plenty of trunk roads that are toll in South America and there are quite a few motorways in France that aren't toll. Really, I think we need a road-focused mapstyle that shows paved/unpaved and toll/n

Re: [OSM-dev] New Map Style feedback

2015-11-03 Thread Simon Poole
Anything with hairpins, small squares or adjacent roads at zoom 15 and 16 (there's plenty in Ticino to point to somewhere nearby, including the same symptom with tertiary, aka yellow blobs (you can use http://tile.openstreetmap.fr to verify). Am 02.11.2015 um 11:07 schrieb Martin Koppenhoefer: >

Re: [OSM-dev] New Map Style feedback

2015-11-02 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2015-11-02 20:02 GMT+01:00 Holger Jeromin : > I do not care if the road is a motorway or trunk if this road is > the only large road into a city. > what might change instantly if motorways were to cost money to use them, and other roads not. FYI, motorways are toll roads in most countries of th

Re: [OSM-dev] New Map Style feedback

2015-11-02 Thread Holger Jeromin
Maarten Deen Wrote in message: > On 2015-11-01 18:09, Amaroussi (OpenStreetMap) wrote: > > I agree that the abandonging of the blue for motorways is a bad choice. Rendering major roads like rivers or forest is not a good idea. We were just used to it, which make it not good. > It is not only

Re: [OSM-dev] New Map Style feedback

2015-11-02 Thread Jo
I find it strange to see many people arguing that there should be a > similarity between street signs and the colour used on the map. Germany, >> for example, uses blue motorway signs exclusively, >> > > I'm not sure if I read this right, but the Netherlands, Belgium and France > also use blue sig

Re: [OSM-dev] New Map Style feedback

2015-11-02 Thread Richard Fairhurst
SimonPoole wrote: > And in lots of countries in Europe they are signposted in green. I'm > not quite sure why we are being held ransom to a questionable > decision which was made (not so long ago) by an unrelated third > party. Which interesting enough however doesn't use every > imaginable col

Re: [OSM-dev] New Map Style feedback

2015-11-02 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Richard Fairhurst wrote: > other UK cartographers used green for non-primary roads (I meant "primary A roads", of course, or in OSM parlance "trunk") Richard -- View this message in context: http://gis.19327.n5.nabble.com/New-Map-Style-feedback-tp5858553p5858638.html Sent from the Developer D

Re: [OSM-dev] New Map Style feedback

2015-11-02 Thread Andy Robinson
+1 Cheers Andy -Original Message- From: Maarten Deen [mailto:md...@xs4all.nl] Sent: 02 November 2015 08:40 To: dev@openstreetmap.org; talk...@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [OSM-dev] New Map Style feedback On 2015-11-01 18:09, Amaroussi (OpenStreetMap) wrote: > Hi all, > > I

Re: [OSM-dev] New Map Style feedback

2015-11-02 Thread Amaroussi (OpenStreetMap)
Hi, The only immediate main problem I have is the Tertiary roads due to many countries using it as well, but other than that I still offer to mediate any potential dispute over the road colours, and for that I have suggested that the British/Heritage/Legacy/whatever you like to call it layer be

Re: [OSM-dev] New Map Style feedback

2015-11-02 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2015-11-02 10:33 GMT+01:00 Simon Poole : > Which > interesting enough however doesn't use every imaginable colour for their > road network either > > https://www.ordnancesurvey.co.uk/osmaps/#53.00818632749056,-1.4402046835289466 > and essentially only differentiates between three road types. >

Re: [OSM-dev] New Map Style feedback

2015-11-02 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2015-11-02 10:51 GMT+01:00 Simon Poole : > -1 given that you can always find specific situations in which a one > size fits all rendering fails, in the previous style there are tons of > while blobs made out of residential class roads, didn't stop anybody > from using the map. > examples? IMHO,

Re: [OSM-dev] New Map Style feedback

2015-11-02 Thread Simon Poole
Am 02.11.2015 um 10:03 schrieb Martin Koppenhoefer: > > > +1, especially tertiary roads now tend to merge into blobs, e.g. here: > http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=17/41.85901/12.49464 > > -1 given that you can always find specific situations in which a one size fits all rendering fails, in the

Re: [OSM-dev] New Map Style feedback

2015-11-02 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2015-11-02 10:30, Frederik Ramm wrote: Hi, On 11/02/2015 09:40 AM, Maarten Deen wrote: I agree that the abandonging of the blue for motorways is a bad choice. It is not only a british color, motorways are signalled in blue also in lots of other countries in europe. I find it strange to s

Re: [OSM-dev] New Map Style feedback

2015-11-02 Thread Simon Poole
Am 02.11.2015 um 09:40 schrieb Maarten Deen: > > I agree that the abandonging of the blue for motorways is a bad > choice. It is not only a british color, motorways are signalled in > blue also in lots of other countries in europe. And in lots of countries in Europe they are signposted in green.

Re: [OSM-dev] New Map Style feedback

2015-11-02 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, On 11/02/2015 09:40 AM, Maarten Deen wrote: > I agree that the abandonging of the blue for motorways is a bad choice. > It is not only a british color, motorways are signalled in blue also in > lots of other countries in europe. I find it strange to see many people arguing that there should

Re: [OSM-dev] New Map Style feedback

2015-11-02 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > Am 02.11.2015 um 09:40 schrieb Maarten Deen : > > Teritary roads, being white, are all but unrecognizable. Looking at > motorways, trunk roads or primary roads, I can not tell one from the other, > except when I see two next to eachother. > Furthermore, on high zooms, road

Re: [OSM-dev] New Map Style feedback

2015-11-02 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2015-11-01 18:09, Amaroussi (OpenStreetMap) wrote: Hi all, I have been gathering thoughts from the talk-gb list and my main concern now is how the tertiary roads are shown, especially in countries where people map roads according to quality and hierarchy (and there are more than one). In Gree

Re: [OSM-dev] New Map Style feedback

2015-11-01 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > Am 01.11.2015 um 18:26 schrieb Tom Hughes : > > Should we have a French style and a US style and a Chinese style and... > > I mean how exactly do you propose to decide which national styles should get > special treatment? ideally we should cater for all local/regional/na

Re: [OSM-dev] New Map Style feedback

2015-11-01 Thread Tom Hughes
On 01/11/15 17:09, Amaroussi (OpenStreetMap) wrote: The ability for OSM to render the “British” colours alongside the new style colours would depend on what resources they have, but I will support adding an alternative layer to the main site that uses the “British” colours, as soon as the alt

[OSM-dev] New Map Style feedback

2015-11-01 Thread Amaroussi (OpenStreetMap)
Hi all, I have been gathering thoughts from the talk-gb list and my main concern now is how the tertiary roads are shown, especially in countries where people map roads according to quality and hierarchy (and there are more than one). In Greece, tertiary roads connect all villages while in Thai