Re: mod_perl 2.0 namespaces - a proposal

2005-03-21 Thread Randy Kobes
On Sun, 20 Mar 2005, Geoffrey Young wrote: > To take a look at the codebase you can checkout the following branch > from subversion: > > http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/perl/modperl/branches/apache2-rename-unstable > > and test and install it as usual. For those Win32 users wishing to give this a

Re: cannot 'make dist' anymore

2005-03-21 Thread Stas Bekman
Geoffrey Young wrote: [...] no, it's been happening to me for a while. I get this error from a fresh checkout at trunk: mkdir mod_perl-2.0.0-RC5/xs/Apache/Command -e: xs/Apache/Command/svn:this_dir not found at -e line 1 Can't read xs/Apache/Command/svn:this_dir: No such file or directory make: **

Re: cannot 'make dist' anymore

2005-03-21 Thread Geoffrey Young
Stas Bekman wrote: > Geoffrey Young wrote: > >> hi stas :) >> >> I cannot 'make dist' anymore, either on trunk or the branch. I think >> it has >> to do with this change: >> >> "when building mp2 EU::MM looks into Apache-Test/MANIFEST and >> complains" >> >> can you look into it? > > > What

Re: mod_perl 2.0 namespaces - a proposal

2005-03-21 Thread Geoffrey Young
> > make dist has a problem, so I can't roll a tarball at the moment. try this http://cvs.apache.org/~geoff/mod_perl-unstable.tar.gz --Geoff - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAI

Re: cannot 'make dist' anymore

2005-03-21 Thread Stas Bekman
Geoffrey Young wrote: hi stas :) I cannot 'make dist' anymore, either on trunk or the branch. I think it has to do with this change: "when building mp2 EU::MM looks into Apache-Test/MANIFEST and complains" can you look into it? What do you mean? Tthe trunk works just fine for me. Why did you com

Re: cannot 'make dist' anymore

2005-03-21 Thread Geoffrey Young
Geoffrey Young wrote: > hi stas :) > > I cannot 'make dist' anymore, either on trunk or the branch. I think it has > to do with this change: > > "when building mp2 EU::MM looks into Apache-Test/MANIFEST and complains" > > can you look into it? forget it, I seem to have found the issue. --

Re: mod_perl 2.0 namespaces - a proposal

2005-03-21 Thread Joe Schaefer
Geoffrey Young <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I would expect that, barring any new developments, > we should be able to roll a candidate by monday > at the latest. -1, let's not rush things. We're not all on the same page right now, even as developers, so there needs to be some/lots of formal v

Re: mod_perl 2.0 namespaces - a proposal

2005-03-21 Thread Geoffrey Young
Adam Kennedy wrote: >> Anybody know if this branch actually solves our current CPAN issues >> with trunk? It'd royally suck if we just displaced the known >> CPAN/installer problems with trunk with a whole new set of >> CPAN/installer problems associated with this branch. > > > I have to say I

cannot 'make dist' anymore

2005-03-21 Thread Geoffrey Young
hi stas :) I cannot 'make dist' anymore, either on trunk or the branch. I think it has to do with this change: "when building mp2 EU::MM looks into Apache-Test/MANIFEST and complains" can you look into it? --Geoffs - To uns

Re: mod_perl 2.0 namespaces - a proposal

2005-03-21 Thread Randal L. Schwartz
> "Geoffrey" == Geoffrey Young <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Geoffrey> - first, assume lazy consensus if nobody hollers with something new that Geoffrey> we haven't already heard and discussed ad nauseum Mark me as a lazy consenter. :-) -- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Service

Re: mod_perl 2.0 namespaces - a proposal

2005-03-21 Thread Geoffrey Young
Adam Kennedy wrote: >> no, the mp2 MakeMaker tools serve many purposes, and installing into >> Apache2 >> is just one of them. another is, for instance, letting XS modules know >> where the mod_perl header files and typemaps are, or (IIRC) adding things >> that, say, win32 needs to know about. >

Re: mod_perl 2.0 namespaces - a proposal

2005-03-21 Thread Adam Kennedy
no, the mp2 MakeMaker tools serve many purposes, and installing into Apache2 is just one of them. another is, for instance, letting XS modules know where the mod_perl header files and typemaps are, or (IIRC) adding things that, say, win32 needs to know about. so no, they stay. but now pure perl m

Re: mod_perl 2.0 namespaces - a proposal

2005-03-21 Thread Geoffrey Young
Adam Kennedy wrote: >> yes, it would suck, but I don't see how it would cause new problems. >> Apache2:: is a namespace like any other, and it previously did not >> exist, so >> I would expect it to install like any other namespace but not stomp on >> prior >> existing stuff, which were the big c

Re: mod_perl 2.0 namespaces - a proposal

2005-03-21 Thread Adam Kennedy
yes, it would suck, but I don't see how it would cause new problems. Apache2:: is a namespace like any other, and it previously did not exist, so I would expect it to install like any other namespace but not stomp on prior existing stuff, which were the big concerns. Indeed. And the other half of t

Re: mod_perl 2.0 namespaces - a proposal

2005-03-21 Thread Geoffrey Young
Joe Schaefer wrote: > Geoffrey Young <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > [...] > > >> - you cannot make, test, or install the unstable branch over any >>other version of mod_perl-1.99 > > > Blech. IMO that's a rather serious problem with this branch. > Any thoughts on how it could be fixed

Re: mod_perl 2.0 namespaces - a proposal

2005-03-21 Thread Adam Kennedy
Anybody know if this branch actually solves our current CPAN issues with trunk? It'd royally suck if we just displaced the known CPAN/installer problems with trunk with a whole new set of CPAN/installer problems associated with this branch. I have to say I'm yet to take a detailed look at this

Re: mod_perl 2.0 namespaces - a proposal

2005-03-21 Thread Geoffrey Young
Joe Schaefer wrote: > Geoffrey Young <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > [...] > > >> - mod_perl.pm is now mod_perl2.pm >> >> - Apache2.pm no longer exists > > > Procedural question: how should we vote on > this stuff? At this point, I think we should > treat this proposal as just that, a p

Re: mod_perl 2.0 namespaces - a proposal

2005-03-21 Thread Joe Schaefer
Geoffrey Young <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: [...] > > - mod_perl.pm is now mod_perl2.pm > > - Apache2.pm no longer exists Procedural question: how should we vote on this stuff? At this point, I think we should treat this proposal as just that, a proposal. Any ideas about how, and when, we

Re: mod_perl 2.0 namespaces - a proposal

2005-03-21 Thread Joe Schaefer
Geoffrey Young <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: [...] > - you cannot make, test, or install the unstable branch over any > other version of mod_perl-1.99 Blech. IMO that's a rather serious problem with this branch. Any thoughts on how it could be fixed? [...] > If you have issues or concerns

Re: [mp2] segfaults with Apache::Reload

2005-03-21 Thread Stas Bekman
I've further simplified the handler. the following package Apache::Handler; use strict; use warnings; use Apache::Const 'OK'; use Devel::Peek; sub handler { Dump OK; print "a"; return OK; } 1; __END__ gives: #0 0x40547266 in Perl_pp_entersub (my_perl=0x81b22b8) at pp_hot.c:2664 2664

Re: [mp2] segfaults with Apache::Reload

2005-03-21 Thread Stas Bekman
Stas Bekman wrote: I get segfaults after Apache::Reload has reloaded a module. I've attached a tarball which reproduces the segfault(s). hmm, for some reason the message didn't make it through. Must be the tarball. You can now get it from here http://stason.org/tmp/AR-segv-mp2.tar.gz It could be

[mp2] segfaults with Apache::Reload

2005-03-21 Thread Stas Bekman
I get segfaults after Apache::Reload has reloaded a module. I've attached a tarball which reproduces the segfault(s). It could be a problem in A-R, in the perl, in the modperl or any mix of the three. Just run the following (adjust the paths): make clean perl-5.8.6-ithread Makefile.PL -apxs /ho

Re: [mp2] segfaults with Apache::Reload

2005-03-21 Thread Stas Bekman
And this version: package Apache::Handler; use strict; use warnings; use Apache::Const 'OK'; sub handler { print "a"; return OK; } 1; __END__ has a problem: [Mon Mar 21 19:22:10 2005] [error] [client 127.0.0.1] Undefined subroutine called at /home/stas/work/modules/Apache-VMonitor-2.0/Apa

Re: [mp2] finishing support for MP_USE_STATIC=1 MP_STATIC_EXTS=1

2005-03-21 Thread Stas Bekman
Randy Kobes wrote: [...] I've looked into this (on linux), and made some progress, but still get some problems with tests involving APR::Pool and APR::Bucket* in the apr-ext tests. I'll post a partial patch which illustrates the problem, but was wondering a couple of things: - just to confirm, the

[RELEASE CANDIDATE] Apache-Test 1.21

2005-03-21 Thread Geoffrey Young
a release candidate for Apache-Test 1.21 is now available. http://cvs.apache.org/~geoff/Apache-Test-1.21-dev.tar.gz please take the time to excercise the candidate through all your existing applications that use Apache-Test and report back successes or failures. --Geoff Changes since 1.20: f

Re: mod_perl 2.0 namespaces - a proposal

2005-03-21 Thread Joe Schaefer
Tom Schindl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > What's going to happen to Apache::Request will it also follow this > direction and renamed Apache2::Request? TBD- I think that issue depends on what folks say about the current renaming proposal for mp2. In the past the apreq-dev has always honored the

Re: mod_perl 2.0 namespaces - a proposal

2005-03-21 Thread Tom Schindl
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, my svn-client refuses to checkout from the repository telling me that the URL-Schema is unknown. Are there any tar.gz's to download or even better does anybody know what that means(does my distribution forgot to add this protocol). I'm using Mandrak

Re: mod_perl 2.0 namespaces - a proposal

2005-03-21 Thread Tom Schindl
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 What's going to happen to Apache::Request will it also follow this direction and renamed Apache2::Request? Tom Joe Schaefer wrote: | Geoffrey Young <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: | | [...] | | |>The process has reached the point where discussion ought to m