Re: Java 7 and Pig, hijacked from PIG-2643

2012-04-16 Thread Scott Carey
We are starting to test it internally in our cluster. This is a broader hadoop issue. Note, Oracle's last public (free) release of a Java 6 JRE will be towards the end of this year. After that, even security updates will ONLY be available in a Java 7 JRE. On 4/16/12 10:28 AM, "Dmitriy Ryaboy"

Re: Java 7 and Pig, hijacked from PIG-2643

2012-04-16 Thread Dmitriy Ryaboy
Last time I tried to run a Java 7 jar on a java 6 jvm, things blew up. This suggests to me that before Pig can use Java 7, Hadoop has to be able to (since hadoop spins out the jvm process that runs the pig map/reduce jobs). Do you know if Hadoop can run on Java 7? D On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 10:18

Re: Java 7 and Pig, hijacked from PIG-2643

2012-04-16 Thread Scott Carey
On 4/13/12 1:30 AM, "Gianmarco De Francisci Morales" wrote: >Sure, >probably Java7 is more mature than Pig. >However as far as I know it is a pain to install on Mac. Yes, you have to install using the developer preview, but it is available from the same place all other JRE's from Oracle are. [

Re: Java 7 and Pig, hijacked from PIG-2643

2012-04-16 Thread Alan Gates
There are some exciting new features in Java 7. However, realistically we can't start using it until Hadoop does. I don't recall any discussion on it on their list, though I may have missed it. But AFAIK they have no migration plans at this time. Alan. On Apr 12, 2012, at 11:55 AM, Jonathan

Re: Java 7 and Pig, hijacked from PIG-2643

2012-04-13 Thread Gianmarco De Francisci Morales
Sure, probably Java7 is more mature than Pig. However as far as I know it is a pain to install on Mac. This is just one small example of not mature enough. I am under the impression that Java7 not yet mainstream, correct me if I am wrong. I am fine with having optional performance improvements ena

Re: Java 7 and Pig, hijacked from PIG-2643

2012-04-12 Thread Scott Carey
On 4/12/12 12:02 PM, "Gianmarco De Francisci Morales" wrote: >My personal opinion is Yes, if there is a compelling reason, but not now. >Still not mature enough. What is the definition of "mature enough"? I'd argue that out of Java 7, Hadoop, Avro, and Pig... Java 7 is the most mature. Grante

Re: Java 7 and Pig, hijacked from PIG-2643

2012-04-12 Thread Gianmarco De Francisci Morales
My personal opinion is Yes, if there is a compelling reason, but not now. Still not mature enough. Cheers, -- Gianmarco On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 20:55, Jonathan Coveney wrote: > Scott Carey brought Java 7 up in PIG-2643, and I think it's something we > need to think about. When do we want to s

Java 7 and Pig, hijacked from PIG-2643

2012-04-12 Thread Jonathan Coveney
Scott Carey brought Java 7 up in PIG-2643, and I think it's something we need to think about. When do we want to start taking advantage of new features that may not exist on Java 6? Do we ever? 2012/4/12 Scott Carey (Commented) (JIRA) > >[ > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PIG-2643?pag