Re: TextArea/RichTextArea

2010-09-10 Thread Greg Brown
> Do you have time to quickly summarize what text based components & > containers you envision for Pivot 2.0? Pivot 2.0 will include the same set of text components as earlier releases: Label (read-only, optionally wrapping, unstyled label) TextInput (single-line unstyled text field) TextArea (mu

Re: TextArea/RichTextArea

2010-09-10 Thread Chris Bartlett
Greg, Do you have time to quickly summarize what text based components & containers you envision for Pivot 2.0? Names are not so important here, I am just trying to understand the features that would be available. I suppose the most important points are whether they would be editable or not, comp

Re: TextArea/RichTextArea

2010-09-10 Thread Greg Brown
> I think it depends on a few factors such as the actual code complexity As I mentioned earlier, the code is simply more complex than it needs to be at the moment. Removing what I would consider to be non-essential code from the existing rich TextArea component and related DOM classes will strea

RE: TextArea/RichTextArea

2010-09-10 Thread aappddeevv
n the full editing version in the pivot library. -Original Message- From: Greg Brown [mailto:gkbr...@mac.com] Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2010 10:10 PM To: Pivot Dev Cc: Pivot User Subject: Re: TextArea/RichTextArea By the way, this suggestion doesn't invalidate any of the (exten

Re: TextArea/RichTextArea

2010-09-10 Thread Greg Brown
> What specific bugs did you find? As far as I know, I've worked them all out > now. I had some trouble getting bulleted lists to work. >> Yes, we can do this. But I am genuinely concerned about the stability and >> maintenance of RichTextArea - not because the work that Noel has done >> rece

Re: TextArea/RichTextArea

2010-09-10 Thread Greg Brown
Just a little more background on this - to me, it is as much a question about process as it is about design. Like most open-source projects, Pivot is a volunteer-driven effort with limited resources. In order to be successful, we need to map our development process to these constraints. That's o

Re: TextArea/RichTextArea

2010-09-10 Thread Noel Grandin
Greg Brown wrote: > I noticed a few bugs, though Noel may be planning to work these out before we > release 2.0. Also, we'd ideally want to > include a RichTextToolbar component along with RichTextArea, since most > developers will want to use the two together. What specific bugs did you find?

Re: TextArea/RichTextArea

2010-09-10 Thread Greg Brown
I actually like TextPane: 1) As I mentioned in the other email, it doesn't imply editability but can also support it in the future. 2) The "Pane" suffix makes it clear that it is a container and therefore used for layout. 3) Since its primary purpose would be to support text-like layouts (wher

Re: TextArea/RichTextArea

2010-09-10 Thread Greg Brown
>> The existing (rich) TextArea class can certainly be used for this purpose, >> but it currently has a lot of baggage since it supports editing. A pure >> "text pane" wouldn't need such support, so it would significantly simplify >> the codebase if we were to eliminate it. > > Perhaps I am misund

Re: TextArea/RichTextArea

2010-09-10 Thread Chris Bartlett
On 10 September 2010 08:42, Greg Brown wrote: > > The existing (rich) TextArea class can certainly be used for this purpose, > but it currently has a lot of baggage since it supports editing. A pure > "text pane" wouldn't need such support, so it would significantly simplify > the codebase if we

Re: TextArea/RichTextArea

2010-09-10 Thread Noel Grandin
Obviously, I'm a little biased, because I did the rich text area work :-), but I think there is a lot of value in continuing to support the current rich text editor component. However, I really like what you are proposing. It sounds a lot like the Eclipse Forms project, http://www.eclipse.org/a

Re: TextArea/RichTextArea

2010-09-09 Thread Greg Brown
By the way, this suggestion doesn't invalidate any of the (extensive) work that Noel has done recently with TextArea. In fact, it wouldn't be possible without it. I'm just wondering if a supporting read-only text pane might be a better long-term strategy than supporting rich text authoring...

TextArea/RichTextArea

2010-09-09 Thread Greg Brown
Hi all, I'm about ready to check in final support for the new TextArea. There are still a few bugs to work out, but it is mostly functional. I'd like to raise the question again of what to call the new "rich text area". I'm still pretty excited about the concept of a "TextPane" component - this