[racket-dev] should package X imply package X-test?

2013-10-15 Thread Matthew Flatt
We have several packages X that imply packages X-lib and X-doc --- and that seems good to me. Some Xs also imply X-test, while other Xs do not imply X-test (even though X-test exists). We should change one of those sets to be consistent with the other. It's important that X-lib and X-test end up

Re: [racket-dev] should package X imply package X-test?

2013-10-15 Thread Sam Tobin-Hochstadt
I agree with this. In particular, I like to be able to use libraries in testing code that the rest of the library doesn't depend on, and I'd like to not make users install those extra libraries. Sam On Oct 15, 2013 4:47 PM, Matthew Flatt mfl...@cs.utah.edu wrote: We have several packages X that

Re: [racket-dev] should package X imply package X-test?

2013-10-15 Thread Robby Findler
Well, that's already available via X-lib (plus possibly X-doc). I don't have a strong opinion on this, but I'm not sure that's the right rationale. Robby On Tue, Oct 15, 2013 at 4:08 PM, Sam Tobin-Hochstadt sa...@cs.indiana.eduwrote: I agree with this. In particular, I like to be able to use

Re: [racket-dev] [plt] Push #27614: master branch updated

2013-10-15 Thread Sam Tobin-Hochstadt
On Tue, Oct 15, 2013 at 6:52 PM, mfl...@racket-lang.org wrote: 1920ac5 Matthew Flatt mfl...@racket-lang.org 2013-10-15 16:19 : | move some test doc collections out of racket- pkgs to new pkgs : I think this broke some of the test dependencies. Here's one error (from [1]) ERROR:

Re: [racket-dev] should package X imply package X-test?

2013-10-15 Thread Robby Findler
Yes, I think that was the point of the original message: to figure out what consistent thing we think it should be. Robby On Tue, Oct 15, 2013 at 9:34 PM, Eli Barzilay e...@barzilay.org wrote: It would be nice if it implied some consistent default, depending on what I generally want. Ie, I

Re: [racket-dev] should package X imply package X-test?

2013-10-15 Thread Matthew Flatt
At Tue, 15 Oct 2013 22:40:54 -0400, Eli Barzilay wrote: Just now, Robby Findler wrote: Yes, I think that was the point of the original message: to figure out what consistent thing we think it should be. My point was in the depending on what *I* generally want. I'm saying that it much

Re: [racket-dev] should package X imply package X-test?

2013-10-15 Thread Neil Toronto
On 10/15/2013 06:40 PM, Robby Findler wrote: Actually, on second thought, I think I'm going to buck the trend here and answer yes to the question in the subject line. Two scenarios come to mind: someone hears about some cool new library and then does something like 'raco pkg install math'. Next

Re: [racket-dev] [plt] Push #27595: master branch updated

2013-10-15 Thread Stephen Chang
I just discovered this behavior accidentally. It caught me off guard and feels unintuitive. And the negative of accidentally running it doesnt seem to outweigh having to type an extra --link dirname (especially after cloning, when you are not in the directory you just created anyways). I doubt