Re: [racket-dev] class100 removal

2014-04-14 Thread Robby Findler
Lets have a full cycles without it in the git tree before the release, but otherwise, I think so yes. Robby On Mon, Apr 14, 2014 at 2:47 PM, Asumu Takikawa as...@ccs.neu.edu wrote: Hi all, A few releases ago we announced our intention to remove the mzlib/class100 library from Racket. I think

Re: [racket-dev] class100 removal

2014-04-14 Thread Robby Findler
I think the release branch has been created already -- assuming that's right, then you can/should remove it now. Robby On Mon, Apr 14, 2014 at 3:52 PM, Asumu Takikawa as...@ccs.neu.edu wrote: On 2014-04-14 15:42:18 -0500, Robby Findler wrote: Lets have a full cycles without it in the git tree

Re: [racket-dev] planet bug tracking system spam

2014-04-13 Thread Robby Findler
Does anyone else find it has value? Robby On Sunday, April 13, 2014, Neil Van Dyke n...@neilvandyke.org wrote: Can the PLaneT bug-tracking system be shut down, please? (I have never wanted my packages to be in the PLaneT bug-tracking system. It has never been anything for me but

Re: [racket-dev] planet bug tracking system spam

2014-04-13 Thread Robby Findler
regards, Stephen On Sunday, 13 April 2014, Robby Findler ro...@eecs.northwestern.edu wrote: Does anyone else find it has value? Robby On Sunday, April 13, 2014, Neil Van Dyke n...@neilvandyke.org wrote: Can the PLaneT bug-tracking system be shut down, please? (I have never wanted my

Re: [racket-dev] Native graphics libraries upgraded for Windows and Mac OS X (was Re: Windows GTK version conflicts with GObjectIntrospection)

2014-04-10 Thread Robby Findler
The Northwestern snapshot broke, sorry about that. (The script's call to git submodule update doesn't work for some reason; I've run it manually and we should get a build tomorrow). Robby On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 9:57 AM, Neil Toronto neil.toro...@gmail.comwrote: This may have fixed the

Re: [racket-dev] Compile cache being incorrect

2014-04-05 Thread Robby Findler
raco make x.rkt racket x.rkt Robby On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 11:16 PM, Eric Dobson eric.n.dob...@gmail.comwrote: Great that explains it and with that information I was able to simplify my test case to tmp.rkt #lang racket (require tmp2.rkt) (define-syntax (go stx) (foo)) (go)

Re: [racket-dev] Compile cache being incorrect

2014-04-05 Thread Robby Findler
, but this is a hard problem, and it's reasonable to not have a solution. But having the system act like it works when it doesn't is worse. Sam On Sat, Apr 5, 2014 at 8:13 AM, Robby Findler ro...@eecs.northwestern.edu wrote: raco make x.rkt racket x.rkt Robby On Fri, Apr 4, 2014

Re: [racket-dev] Compile cache being incorrect

2014-04-05 Thread Robby Findler
of compiling everything in those packages which is over kill (and thus slower than needed). My end goal is a very fast edit/test loop (~100ms), which may be impossible but I want to be aggressive. On Sat, Apr 5, 2014 at 8:14 AM, Robby Findler ro...@eecs.northwestern.edu wrote: Yes, Sam. I

Re: [racket-dev] Compile cache being incorrect

2014-04-05 Thread Robby Findler
Altho if someone wanted to improve this somehow (make macro expansion faster? Find better ways to exploit parallel hardware?) then that would be really awesome. Robby On Sat, Apr 5, 2014 at 10:38 AM, Robby Findler ro...@eecs.northwestern.eduwrote: That sounds difficult. On Saturday, April

Re: [racket-dev] [plt] Push #28468: master branch updated

2014-04-04 Thread Robby Findler
the default instance of `ps-setup%', so programs that produce plots for papers could start this way: #lang racket (require plot) (plot-ps-setup old-plot-ps-setup) Maybe that parameter is useful after all. Neil ⊥ On 04/03/2014 10:37 AM, Robby Findler wrote: Is efc46de backwards

Re: [racket-dev] [plt] Push #28468: master branch updated

2014-04-04 Thread Robby Findler
looked better when plots had slightly larger fonts. I verified that the fix works by using the Gimp to convert a PDF and an SVG to two 500x500 images, and pasted one over the other. Neil ⊥ On 04/04/2014 06:42 AM, Robby Findler wrote: I'm not completely clear on the precise impact of old

Re: [racket-dev] Fwd: Create executable problem

2014-04-04 Thread Robby Findler
delete that from the file and then put (presumably at the top-level) a call to flip passing in the literal cat and then just use that instead. That should work with the released version. Robby On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 5:06 PM, Robby Findler ro...@eecs.northwestern.eduwrote: It looks like

Re: [racket-dev] [plt] Push #28468: master branch updated

2014-04-03 Thread Robby Findler
Is efc46de backwards compatible? (I worry about breaking people's papers, specifically.) Robby On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 12:20 AM, ntoro...@racket-lang.org wrote: ntoronto has updated `master' from 87cfce97f9 to efc46ded6d. http://git.racket-lang.org/plt/87cfce97f9..efc46ded6d =[ 2

Re: [racket-dev] [DrDr] R28413 (timeout 4) (unclean 16) (stderr 35) (changes 22)

2014-03-26 Thread Robby Findler
Just to confirm: Redex isn't doing anything wrong, right? Redex is now using the in-order enumeration generation in a default configuration (for a little while before adding some of the old-style random generated terms). So if you want to see what kinds of things it generates, you can use

Re: [racket-dev] [DrDr] R28413 (timeout 4) (unclean 16) (stderr 35) (changes 22)

2014-03-26 Thread Robby Findler
producing the error: generate-term: #:i-th does not support side-condition patterns What are some possible causes? (still trying to distill to a small example). On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 1:10 PM, Robby Findler ro...@eecs.northwestern.edu wrote: Just to confirm: Redex isn't doing anything

Re: [racket-dev] [DrDr] R28413 (timeout 4) (unclean 16) (stderr 35) (changes 22)

2014-03-26 Thread Robby Findler
26, 2014 at 7:55 PM, Robby Findler ro...@eecs.northwestern.edu wrote: That is a bug in redex-check. You can work around it by passing #:ad-hoc to redex-check (this goes back to the old behavior). Robby On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 6:33 PM, Stephen Chang stch...@ccs.neu.edu wrote

Re: [racket-dev] Changing the default error display handler to use

2014-03-13 Thread Robby Findler
You'll want to check DrRacket in both Debugging and No Debugging and Profiling mode to see if you're happy with the results (and I can help change them if you're not happy with them). Robby On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 8:34 PM, Matthew Flatt mfl...@cs.utah.edu wrote: At Wed, 12 Mar 2014 18:05:03

Re: [racket-dev] [plt] Push #28213: master branch updated

2014-02-20 Thread Robby Findler
This looks fantastic! Robby On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 10:06 PM, Asumu Takikawa as...@ccs.neu.edu wrote: On 2014-02-20 23:03:22 -0500, Asumu Takikawa wrote: Should be very close. Not quite there currently because there are two more chunks that I've written and haven't pushed yet: *

Re: [racket-dev] 5.92 release

2014-01-25 Thread Robby Findler
to be a “hidden” release. But I just opened DrRacket 5.3.6 and got this message: “ Racket v5.92 is now available at http://download.racket-lang.org/ ” Gustavo On Tue, Jan 14, 2014 at 2:00 PM, Robby Findler ro...@eecs.northwestern.edu wrote: Dear all: we're experimenting with a slightly

[racket-dev] 5.92 release

2014-01-14 Thread Robby Findler
Dear all: we're experimenting with a slightly different release process for 6.0. We plan to release version 5.92, taking all the usual steps except that we announce it only on the users and dev mailing lists. Then, in a few weeks, if everything is smooth, we renumber the release and release it

Re: [racket-dev] [plt] Push #27909: master branch updated

2014-01-14 Thread Robby Findler
to take a look at them. (Excepting the case of structs where I know it is still an issue). On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 10:52 AM, Robby Findler ro...@eecs.northwestern.edu wrote: Re-reading your message I see that you're not actually asserting something different from what I said, but just

Re: [racket-dev] [plt] Push #27909: master branch updated

2014-01-14 Thread Robby Findler
like to take a look at them. (Excepting the case of structs where I know it is still an issue). On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 10:52 AM, Robby Findler ro...@eecs.northwestern.edu wrote: Re-reading your message I see that you're not actually asserting something different from what I said, but just

Re: [racket-dev] release notes draft

2014-01-13 Thread Robby Findler
Okay, new version below. Thanks! If there is a drdr graph that shows the 50% jump, I'd like to add that pointer into the notes in the bullet you added, eg: * Typed Racket is now 50% faster when type checking some large programs. See, for example: http://drdr.racket-lang.org/./bigfile.rkt

Re: [racket-dev] release notes draft

2014-01-13 Thread Robby Findler
-racket-test/tests/typed-racket/succeed/new-metrics.rkt Sam On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 10:39 AM, Robby Findler ro...@eecs.northwestern.edu wrote: Okay, new version below. Thanks! If there is a drdr graph that shows the 50% jump, I'd like to add that pointer into the notes in the bullet you

Re: [racket-dev] release notes draft

2014-01-13 Thread Robby Findler
we've now got a much better mechanism that we can use in the next release and we've not done this past releases. Robby Vincent At Sat, 11 Jan 2014 20:27:21 -0600, Robby Findler wrote: [1 multipart/alternative (7bit)] [1.1 text/plain; UTF-8 (7bit)] Below is the latest release notes

Re: [racket-dev] release notes draft

2014-01-13 Thread Robby Findler
comparison with the Typed Racket compilation improved by 50% on some typed programs; see http:// ... On Jan 13, 2014, at 11:43 AM, Sam Tobin-Hochstadt sa...@cs.indiana.edu wrote: Looks good. On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 11:40 AM, Robby Findler ro...@eecs.northwestern.edu wrote

Re: [racket-dev] release notes draft

2014-01-13 Thread Robby Findler
checking some programs. For example: http://bit.ly/1d0Ye4z Sam On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 1:25 PM, Robby Findler ro...@eecs.northwestern.edu wrote: I'll wait for an actual new bullet here, if one of Sam/Matthias doesn't mind writing it? Robby On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 11:06 AM

Re: [racket-dev] release notes draft

2014-01-13 Thread Robby Findler
, 2014 at 2:44 PM, Vincent St-Amour stamo...@ccs.neu.eduwrote: At Mon, 13 Jan 2014 12:25:06 -0600, Robby Findler wrote: [1 text/plain; UTF-8 (7bit)] On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 11:05 AM, Vincent St-Amour stamo...@ccs.neu.edu wrote: These release notes look good to me, but maybe a bit

Re: [racket-dev] release notes draft

2014-01-13 Thread Robby Findler
Here's the latest draft. Robby Racket 5.92 has a new package system, including a catalog of hundreds of already-available packages. Please visit http://pkgs.racket-lang.org/ for an overview of the packages. Recent releases included the beta versions of the package system. Racket version 6.0

Re: [racket-dev] release notes draft

2014-01-13 Thread Robby Findler
on-line announcements? On Jan 13, 2014, at 5:04 PM, Robby Findler ro...@eecs.northwestern.edu wrote: Thanks! I didn't include the DrRacket one, since I have more plans for that and would like to hold off announcing it until I get those things done (notably better some color-blindness

Re: [racket-dev] release notes draft

2014-01-12 Thread Robby Findler
if the docs url were functional. -- Matthias On Jan 11, 2014, at 9:27 PM, Robby Findler wrote: Below is the latest release notes draft. Comments? Robby Racket has a new package system, including a catalog of already available packages. Please visit http://pkgs.racket-lang.org

[racket-dev] release notes draft

2014-01-11 Thread Robby Findler
Below is the latest release notes draft. Comments? Robby Racket has a new package system, including a catalog of already available packages. Please visit http://pkgs.racket-lang.org/ for an overview. Recent releases included the beta versions of the package system. Racket version 6.0

Re: [racket-dev] Nope. (was: Re: release blocker?)

2013-12-31 Thread Robby Findler
Glad to hear it isn't in the release branch, but do tell us: what was it? Robby On Tue, Dec 31, 2013 at 5:39 PM, John Clements cleme...@brinckerhoff.orgwrote: disregard; it seems to be the combination of my development branch and asumu’s solarized colors. Can’t make it occur on the release

Re: [racket-dev] Pre-Release Checklist for v6.0, corrected url

2013-12-30 Thread Robby Findler
don't know how worried to be about missing polygons. It could be anything from bad array management in Cairo (which could be serious) to a mostly harmless problem in the implementation of region culling or winding rules. Neil ⊥ On 12/29/2013 09:39 PM, Robby Findler wrote: Neil: have you had

Re: [racket-dev] Pre-Release Checklist for v6.0, Second Call

2013-12-30 Thread Robby Findler
I assume you checked and it doesn't happen in 5.3.6? Robby On Mon, Dec 30, 2013 at 9:53 PM, Neil Toronto neil.toro...@gmail.comwrote: We really shouldn't ship until this memory leak is fixed (which I just reported): http://bugs.racket-lang.org/query/?cmd=viewpr=14264 It's making

Re: [racket-dev] Pre-Release Checklist for v6.0, Second Call

2013-12-29 Thread Robby Findler
On Sun, Dec 29, 2013 at 12:57 PM, Ryan Culpepper ry...@ccs.neu.edu wrote: * Robby Findler ro...@eecs.northwestern.edu - DrRacket Tests Done. _ Racket Developers list: http://lists.racket-lang.org/dev

Re: [racket-dev] Pre-Release Checklist for v6.0, corrected url

2013-12-29 Thread Robby Findler
Matthew B. has looked into this (I had emailed him separately about it, forgetting that there was this message to start from) and reports that this particular combination (putting code inside a blue definition box) isn't supported well by the current CSS. Is there a way to do something

Re: [racket-dev] Pre-Release Checklist for v6.0, corrected url

2013-12-29 Thread Robby Findler
Neil: have you had time to look into this? If not, then I think we should just leave it for the next release. Please let us know what you're thinking about this one. Robby On Sat, Dec 21, 2013 at 4:13 PM, Neil Toronto neil.toro...@gmail.comwrote: Some plots in the documentation are missing a

Re: [racket-dev] downtime

2013-12-28 Thread Robby Findler
We have also looked into the cause and are working to avoid this particular failure mode. We're sorry about this and are working to avoid it going forward. Robby On Sat, Dec 28, 2013 at 8:45 AM, Matthias Felleisen matth...@ccs.neu.eduwrote: As some of you may have noticed, we experienced a

Re: [racket-dev] release notes

2013-12-21 Thread Robby Findler
Did an appropriate HISTORY.txt file get updated with these? Robby On Sat, Dec 21, 2013 at 5:25 PM, Neil Toronto neil.toro...@gmail.comwrote: On 12/19/2013 07:41 PM, Robby Findler wrote: Neil \bot: point-label3d * Plot: Added plot/no-gui, plot/pict and plot/bitmap for non-GUI uses

Re: [racket-dev] release notes

2013-12-21 Thread Robby Findler
I think you should consider starting one (assuming you've not already). Robby On Sat, Dec 21, 2013 at 8:34 PM, Neil Toronto neil.toro...@gmail.comwrote: False. On 12/21/2013 07:33 PM, Robby Findler wrote: ∃ relevant(HISTORY.txt) ? Robby On Sat, Dec 21, 2013 at 8:29 PM, Neil Toronto

Re: [racket-dev] release notes

2013-12-20 Thread Robby Findler
PM, Robby Findler ro...@eecs.northwestern.edu wrote: Jay, Jan Dvořák: formlet improvements * web-server/formlets supports generic input formlets and strings on all formlet default values. Jay: Host and Content-Length headers in http-client.rkt: (dc8f52dbb1e3ca48622629a76000b5fea021697d

Re: [racket-dev] release notes

2013-12-20 Thread Robby Findler
I mean that I think these comments should go into a HISTORY.txt file somewhere. Shall I put them in one, or do you mind doing it? Robby On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 3:31 PM, Jay McCarthy jay.mccar...@gmail.comwrote: On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 2:17 PM, Robby Findler ro...@eecs.northwestern.edu wrote

Re: [racket-dev] release notes

2013-12-20 Thread Robby Findler
Okay, done. Robby On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 3:37 PM, Jay McCarthy jay.mccar...@gmail.comwrote: Ah. I think you should do it :) On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 2:36 PM, Robby Findler ro...@eecs.northwestern.edu wrote: I mean that I think these comments should go into a HISTORY.txt file somewhere

[racket-dev] release notes

2013-12-19 Thread Robby Findler
Hi all: it's time to collect the release notes. Unlike past times, I've done something slightly differently when collecting information from the git logs. I tried to track every thing that looked like user-visible change (that wasn't obviously just a bug report) that either seemed worthy of the

[racket-dev] new release branch builds

2013-12-18 Thread Robby Findler
There are new release branch builds available: http://plt.eecs.northwestern.edu/release-snapshots/ Please use these ones for any testing you've not yet done. The notable changes (for which you may wish to do some extra testing) are: - some fixes to tab navigation - some database / docs

Re: [racket-dev] new release branch builds

2013-12-18 Thread Robby Findler
Oh, and TR! There are some TR changes in this iteration, too. Robby On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 6:41 AM, Robby Findler ro...@eecs.northwestern.eduwrote: There are new release branch builds available: http://plt.eecs.northwestern.edu/release-snapshots/ Please use these ones for any testing

Re: [racket-dev] Pre-Release Checklist for v6.0, corrected url

2013-12-17 Thread Robby Findler
/web-server/run-all-tests.rkt and get the same error messages as DrDr. The stack traces all make mention of the racket-5.91 directory, so I'm pretty sure it is not getting my main installation. Jay On Mon, Dec 16, 2013 at 1:38 PM, Robby Findler ro...@eecs.northwestern.edu wrote: Are you

Re: [racket-dev] Pre-Release Checklist for v6.0, corrected url

2013-12-17 Thread Robby Findler
, Robby Findler ro...@eecs.northwestern.edu wrote: Okay, well I've looked quickly and I see it too and I also don't see new files that I've added based on that contract commit. I do see a commit that came about after my contracts commit (5bae9773aaa2d68c71240b8d7b0b58f43fb21342) that changed

Re: [racket-dev] Duplicate tag warnings building docs?

2013-12-17 Thread Robby Findler
If you don't have any changes to the tree, try 'git clean -x -f -d' before running make. That will delete all of the old build products (and everything else that isn't in the repo) and hopefully clear things up. Robby On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 10:53 PM, Greg Hendershott greghendersh...@gmail.com

Re: [racket-dev] [plt] Push #27930: master branch updated

2013-12-16 Thread Robby Findler
Is this really important enough to request addition to 6.0 given that it likely won't be included in the testing builds? Robby On Mon, Dec 16, 2013 at 10:07 AM, mfl...@racket-lang.org wrote: mflatt has updated `master' from 37dd4fc2b0 to 1ceca069c8.

[racket-dev] planet package installation broken on windows

2013-12-16 Thread Robby Findler
Planet packages do not install properly under windows. They seem to be getting stuck in a deadlock in sqlite or how we call into it or something like that. Below is an example transcript where I hit control-c and got a hopefully informative stack trace. C:\Users\robby\Program Files

Re: [racket-dev] planet package installation broken on windows

2013-12-16 Thread Robby Findler
%40sqlite.org/msg75833.html Ryan On 12/16/2013 01:07 PM, Robby Findler wrote: Planet packages do not install properly under windows. They seem to be getting stuck in a deadlock in sqlite or how we call into it or something like that. Below is an example transcript where I hit control-c

Re: [racket-dev] Pre-Release Checklist for v6.0, corrected url

2013-12-16 Thread Robby Findler
On Mon, Dec 16, 2013 at 10:38 AM, Ryan Culpepper ry...@ccs.neu.edu wrote: * Robby Findler ro...@eecs.northwestern.edu - DrRacket Tests done except populate-compiled.rkt (which is currently failing and requires more investigation to figure out what's going on) - Framework Tests done

Re: [racket-dev] Pre-Release Checklist for v6.0, corrected url

2013-12-16 Thread Robby Findler
Are you running with the right version? The contract change isn't in the release build. Robby On Mon, Dec 16, 2013 at 2:23 PM, Jay McCarthy jay.mccar...@gmail.comwrote: On Mon, Dec 16, 2013 at 9:38 AM, Ryan Culpepper ry...@ccs.neu.edu wrote: * Jay McCarthy jay.mccar...@gmail.com - Web

Re: [racket-dev] [plt] Push #27909: master branch updated

2013-12-12 Thread Robby Findler
documentation which is what is holding up merging with mainline. https://github.com/plt/racket/pull/453 On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 7:57 PM, Robby Findler ro...@eecs.northwestern.edu wrote: I see that TR's type-contract returns (- (flat-named-contract (quote Float) flonum?) (flat-named-contract

Re: [racket-dev] [plt] Push #27909: master branch updated

2013-12-12 Thread Robby Findler
is from Number not Any) does not. So I would still guess at Number being faster, but Robby's changes may make it so that inlining and dead code elimination can see through everything and turn it into the same code. On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 10:27 AM, Robby Findler ro...@eecs.northwestern.edu wrote

Re: [racket-dev] [plt] Push #27909: master branch updated

2013-12-11 Thread Robby Findler
I see that TR's type-contract returns (- (flat-named-contract (quote Float) flonum?) (flat-named-contract (quote Float) flonum?)) for the type (Float - Float), but it could return (- (flat-named-contract (quote Float) flonum?) any) which wouldn't do any result value checking (this being

Re: [racket-dev] syntax-local-inferred-name, keyword functions, and syntax properties

2013-12-09 Thread Robby Findler
Is it possible that that name can leak out in an error message? Robby On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 3:10 PM, Sam Tobin-Hochstadt sa...@cs.indiana.eduwrote: Currently, this program fails with a somewhat bizarre type error: #lang typed/racket (: foo ([#:k Any] - Integer)) (define

Re: [racket-dev] syntax-local-inferred-name, keyword functions, and syntax properties

2013-12-09 Thread Robby Findler
Oh, now I get what you meant in your original message. Right. Robby On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 3:29 PM, Sam Tobin-Hochstadt sa...@cs.indiana.eduwrote: I haven't found a way to make it happen yet. But even so, it seems like the wrong name. Sam On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 4:16 PM, Robby Findler

Re: [racket-dev] syntax-local-inferred-name, keyword functions, and syntax properties

2013-12-09 Thread Robby Findler
, Dec 9, 2013 at 4:29 PM, Sam Tobin-Hochstadt sa...@cs.indiana.edu wrote: I haven't found a way to make it happen yet. But even so, it seems like the wrong name. Sam On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 4:16 PM, Robby Findler ro...@eecs.northwestern.edu wrote: Is it possible that that name can

Re: [racket-dev] syntax-local-inferred-name, keyword functions, and syntax properties

2013-12-09 Thread Robby Findler
at 3:41 PM, Sam Tobin-Hochstadt sa...@cs.indiana.eduwrote: Yes, that would work, but I still don't see why that's a useful name to use. Sam On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 4:37 PM, Robby Findler ro...@eecs.northwestern.edu wrote: Would it work to make it use syntax-local-infer-name but only use

Re: [racket-dev] syntax-local-inferred-name, keyword functions, and syntax properties

2013-12-09 Thread Robby Findler
You're right. I misread the code. Yes, changing it seems good. Robby On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 3:56 PM, Sam Tobin-Hochstadt sa...@cs.indiana.eduwrote: On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 4:50 PM, Robby Findler ro...@eecs.northwestern.edu wrote: I'm not really familiar with the way the keyword expansion

Re: [racket-dev] Documentation

2013-12-08 Thread Robby Findler
Should the history.txt files get stuck into the end of the manuals for the time being? Robby On Sun, Dec 8, 2013 at 8:37 AM, Matthew Flatt mfl...@cs.utah.edu wrote: At Sun, 8 Dec 2013 11:09:39 +0100, Jens Axel Søgaard wrote: In cases where the semantics of constructs are changed, should the

Re: [racket-dev] Doc failure on release snapshot

2013-12-01 Thread Robby Findler
This seems to be working now. Thanks again. Robby On Sat, Nov 30, 2013 at 10:03 PM, Robby Findler ro...@eecs.northwestern.edu wrote: Thanks guys, for sorting this out. I hope I've fixed my release snapshot configuration file. We'll see in about 16 hours, I guess. :) Robby On Sat, Nov

Re: [racket-dev] Racket 6 (git branch release), configure options and dependencies

2013-12-01 Thread Robby Findler
Not that you need more to do, I'm sure :), but the builds from the release branch (or just checking it out yourself if that's easier) are probably pretty close to the final release from the perspective of dependencies and OS packaging issues. And that turns out to be wrong, we'd probably be better

Re: [racket-dev] Doc failure on release snapshot

2013-11-30 Thread Robby Findler
Thanks guys, for sorting this out. I hope I've fixed my release snapshot configuration file. We'll see in about 16 hours, I guess. :) Robby On Sat, Nov 30, 2013 at 5:04 PM, Matthew Flatt mfl...@cs.utah.edu wrote: I think the main problem is that the release snapshot is misconfigured. When I

Re: [racket-dev] [plt] Push #27862: master branch updated

2013-11-28 Thread Robby Findler
the door to such tricks? On Nov 27, 2013, at 8:46 PM, Jay McCarthy wrote: On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 6:27 PM, Robby Findler ro...@eecs.northwestern.edu wrote: On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 7:21 PM, Jay McCarthy j...@racket-lang.org wrote: If I have background expansion on, then when I

Re: [racket-dev] [plt] Push #27862: master branch updated

2013-11-28 Thread Robby Findler
(but could have and could now.) Jay On Thu, Nov 28, 2013 at 7:56 AM, Robby Findler ro...@eecs.northwestern.edu wrote: In short yes. But that short answer isn't where we should stop. :) Really, this is about a design decision that's different between planet and the package system: in planet

[racket-dev] release snapshots

2013-11-27 Thread Robby Findler
I've move the northwestern release snapshots to a slightly different URL. Apologies for any confusion; they are now at: http://plt.eecs.northwestern.edu/release-snapshots/ (rsync is in the middle of pushing things over there; it should be in done in less than an hour (hopefully a lot less).

Re: [racket-dev] [plt] Push #27862: master branch updated

2013-11-27 Thread Robby Findler
Can you demonstrate how to make this happen? Opening a file with these contents, for example, doesn't install anything. #lang racket (require (planet planet/test-connection:1:0/test-connection)) As for automatically executing arbitrary code, I think you must mean something more precise here.

Re: [racket-dev] [plt] Push #27862: master branch updated

2013-11-27 Thread Robby Findler
On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 7:21 PM, Jay McCarthy j...@racket-lang.org wrote: If I have background expansion on, then when I open that file it installs the package. As I wrote in my previous message, it doesn't do that for me. And I don't see how it could do that, actually. Are you saying that

Re: [racket-dev] [plt] Push #27864: master branch updated

2013-11-27 Thread Robby Findler
Looks great. Thanks, Jay. Robby On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 8:24 PM, Jay McCarthy j...@racket-lang.org wrote: I left the other commit in place so that even if users customize download? and install? the command-line tool will continue to work. Jay On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 7:23 PM,

Re: [racket-dev] Should `dynamic-require`d libraries be in package dependencies?

2013-11-26 Thread Robby Findler
Oh, I see. Robby On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 7:43 AM, Sam Tobin-Hochstadt sa...@cs.indiana.eduwrote: I think TR is checking for, and then dynamic-requireing, the Optimization Coach implementation. Sam On Nov 26, 2013 8:36 AM, Robby Findler ro...@eecs.northwestern.edu wrote: Why does TR

Re: [racket-dev] [plt] Push #27825: master branch updated

2013-11-26 Thread Robby Findler
I think that, in this case, changing the documentation and adding the functionality with a different name is the way to go. Robby On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 10:49 AM, Jay McCarthy j...@racket-lang.org wrote: I agree that it is different. I disagree that this is a problem. The documentation

Re: [racket-dev] [plt] Push #27825: master branch updated

2013-11-26 Thread Robby Findler
think it did this and were surprised that it didn't.) On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 9:54 AM, Robby Findler ro...@eecs.northwestern.edu wrote: I think that, in this case, changing the documentation and adding the functionality with a different name is the way to go. Robby On Tue, Nov 26

Re: [racket-dev] Release for v6.0 has begun

2013-11-26 Thread Robby Findler
So, IIUC, Ryan should have used 5.91.0.1 as the version number on the release branch? Robby On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 2:38 PM, Eli Barzilay e...@barzilay.org wrote: Yesterday, Matthew Flatt wrote: At Mon, 25 Nov 2013 09:56:45 -0500, Ryan Culpepper wrote: On 11/25/2013 09:44 AM,

[racket-dev] release snapshot builds

2013-11-24 Thread Robby Findler
There are now release snapshot builds available here: http://plt.eecs.northwestern.edu/snapshots/release/ They'll run each night, starting at about midnight Chicago time and they'll finish, I guess, around 2pm Chicago time (happily much faster than I expected). Robby _

Re: [racket-dev] Release for v6.0 has begun

2013-11-23 Thread Robby Findler
My reading of the code suggests the first problem is that the version number should have been 5.91.0.1 not 5.91.0.0 but I can't recall what we usually do to know if that's right or not. It looks like the code was last changed in 2008 so I guess the version number is what's wrong. The second

Re: [racket-dev] Fwd: [DrDr] R27814 (timeout 0) (unclean 3) (stderr 3) (changes 17)

2013-11-21 Thread Robby Findler
This should be fixed now. Robby On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 11:14 PM, Sam Tobin-Hochstadt sa...@cs.indiana.eduwrote: It appears that Planet can't handle versions starting with 6. Is this something that can be fixed on the server? Sam -- Forwarded message -- From:

Re: [racket-dev] [plt] Push #27758: master branch updated

2013-11-12 Thread Robby Findler
TEST CASES!!! (my throat is hoarse.) What you should really do is revert these commits (locally), develop good automated test cases that fail properly and then revert the revert and then see if they pass. It is really really easy to make incorrect test cases when you've already got the bugfix

Re: [racket-dev] [plt] Push #27758: master branch updated

2013-11-12 Thread Robby Findler
Oh, sorry for cc'ing dev. That was an accident. Robby On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 3:05 PM, Robby Findler ro...@eecs.northwestern.eduwrote: TEST CASES!!! (my throat is hoarse.) What you should really do is revert these commits (locally), develop good automated test cases that fail properly

[racket-dev] backwards incompatibility (was Re: `define-serializable-struct` and the `deserialize-info...` export)

2013-11-08 Thread Robby Findler
(I think it is okay.) But here's a chance for me to point out something I heard about in a conversation with Satnam Singh at OOPSLA about how Google works that it seems like would be a nice fit for us. Here's my adaptation to our world: when you push out what some might consider a change that

Re: [racket-dev] backwards incompatibility (was Re: `define-serializable-struct` and the `deserialize-info...` export)

2013-11-08 Thread Robby Findler
Nov 2013 13:39:25 -0600, Robby Findler wrote: (I think it is okay.) But here's a chance for me to point out something I heard about in a conversation with Satnam Singh at OOPSLA about how Google works that it seems like would be a nice fit for us. Here's my adaptation to our world: when

Re: [racket-dev] backwards incompatibility (was Re: `define-serializable-struct` and the `deserialize-info...` export)

2013-11-08 Thread Robby Findler
On Friday, November 8, 2013, Matthew Flatt wrote: At Fri, 8 Nov 2013 19:18:10 -0600, Robby Findler wrote: On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 7:13 PM, Matthew Flatt mfl...@cs.utah.edujavascript:; wrote: Yes. Even if (as in the future) the current ring-0 packages weren't all the same git

Re: [racket-dev] Slideshow package needs more splitting

2013-11-05 Thread Robby Findler
Okay, I've pushed that change. Thanks, Robby On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 6:29 AM, J. Ian Johnson i...@ccs.neu.edu wrote: Indeed it would. -Ian - Original Message - From: Robby Findler ro...@eecs.northwestern.edu To: J. Ian Johnson i...@ccs.neu.edu Cc: dev dev@racket-lang.org Sent

Re: [racket-dev] `collection-path' Considered Brittle

2013-11-04 Thread Robby Findler
collection-path is legacy and should generally be removed when you find it (I think I fixed two uses of it Saturday in fact). But hopefully you could use collection-file-path in most cases instead of a collections-path function. Robby On Mon, Nov 4, 2013 at 11:45 AM, Vincent St-Amour

Re: [racket-dev] `collection-path' Considered Brittle

2013-11-04 Thread Robby Findler
On Mon, Nov 4, 2013 at 1:56 PM, Vincent St-Amour stamo...@ccs.neu.eduwrote: At Mon, 4 Nov 2013 11:49:44 -0600, Robby Findler wrote: collection-path is legacy and should generally be removed when you find it (I think I fixed two uses of it Saturday in fact). The documentation does mention

Re: [racket-dev] Slideshow package needs more splitting

2013-11-04 Thread Robby Findler
I think there might be some collection/pkg confusion here. Are you having trouble with a package level dependency or a collection level one? (The latter is the only kind that can lead to the documentation error you're talking about I believe.) Robby On Mon, Nov 4, 2013 at 4:51 PM, J. Ian

Re: [racket-dev] Slideshow package needs more splitting

2013-11-04 Thread Robby Findler
, where anim.rkt has all the non-gui code, and play.rkt has the gui code. Requiring slideshow/play in my library caused the doc failure. -Ian - Original Message - From: Robby Findler ro...@eecs.northwestern.edu To: J. Ian Johnson i...@ccs.neu.edu Cc: dev dev@racket-lang.org Sent: Monday

Re: [racket-dev] should package X imply package X-test?

2013-10-16 Thread Robby Findler
, Oct 15, 2013 at 11:00 PM, Neil Toronto neil.toro...@gmail.comwrote: On 10/15/2013 06:40 PM, Robby Findler wrote: Actually, on second thought, I think I'm going to buck the trend here and answer yes to the question in the subject line. Two scenarios come to mind: someone hears about some cool

[racket-dev] raco pkg update: command line arguments change?

2013-10-16 Thread Robby Findler
Hi all: after a confusing bout with 'raco pkg update' where it refused to update to my packages (because I misunderstood the command-line arguments syntax), I'd like to propose a change. Currently, 'raco pkg update PKG ...' means update only the packages named PKG ... which, in the degenerate

Re: [racket-dev] should package X imply package X-test?

2013-10-15 Thread Robby Findler
Well, that's already available via X-lib (plus possibly X-doc). I don't have a strong opinion on this, but I'm not sure that's the right rationale. Robby On Tue, Oct 15, 2013 at 4:08 PM, Sam Tobin-Hochstadt sa...@cs.indiana.eduwrote: I agree with this. In particular, I like to be able to use

Re: [racket-dev] should package X imply package X-test?

2013-10-15 Thread Robby Findler
Yes, I think that was the point of the original message: to figure out what consistent thing we think it should be. Robby On Tue, Oct 15, 2013 at 9:34 PM, Eli Barzilay e...@barzilay.org wrote: It would be nice if it implied some consistent default, depending on what I generally want. Ie, I

Re: [racket-dev] Racket Guide chapter on concurrency

2013-10-08 Thread Robby Findler
FWIW, I agree that handle-evt is more generally useful than wrap-evt (programming with breaks gets tricky and would require it's own setup). You can use things like @interaction[] to run and typeset examples; does that help?

Re: [racket-dev] separate plot library into gui-requiring and non-gui-requiring

2013-10-08 Thread Robby Findler
I think it is worth having a plot/pict or pict/plot library that doesn't depend on racket/GUI/base (or maybe it would be better to disentangle snips). In any case, we have many others such libraries that turn on avoiding racket/gui/base for exactly this reason. Robby On Tuesday, October 8, 2013,

Re: [racket-dev] What can cause Interactions disabled?

2013-10-07 Thread Robby Findler
Was it black on yellow or red? Robby On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 10:32 AM, Neil Toronto neil.toro...@gmail.comwrote: I have a long-running random simulation that spits out debug messages. I extrapolated that it would take 20 hours to get 5,000,000 samples, and let it run for a day. Here's what I

Re: [racket-dev] What can cause Interactions disabled?

2013-10-07 Thread Robby Findler
. Sorry. Robby On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 10:52 AM, Neil Toronto neil.toro...@gmail.comwrote: Black on yellow. On 10/07/2013 09:50 AM, Robby Findler wrote: Was it black on yellow or red? Robby On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 10:32 AM, Neil Toronto neil.toro...@gmail.com mailto:neil.toro

Re: [racket-dev] What can cause Interactions disabled?

2013-10-07 Thread Robby Findler
help! Neil ⊥ On 10/07/2013 11:41 AM, Robby Findler wrote: Then I think that that means that the message came from rep.rkt's no-user-evaluation-message function and that you either should have gotten a dialog with an explanation for why it terminated, or you have the preference

Re: [racket-dev] package system, minimal builds and more

2013-10-03 Thread Robby Findler
On Tue, Oct 1, 2013 at 8:20 AM, Tobias Hammer tobias.ham...@dlr.de wrote: Hi, i played a bit with the new package system, minimal installs and cross compiling. It works pretty good but i have a few problems and remarks/questions. I start with a fresh yesterdays minimal source

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