Re: [racket-dev] release notes draft

2014-01-13 Thread Robby Findler
I think this is reasonably short for a 3x release cycle. Robby On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 4:27 PM, Matthias Felleisen wrote: > > -- please no 'now's (every bullet in Vincent's wording includes it) > -- didn't we say at some point we want to keep things short and point to > longer on-line announcem

Re: [racket-dev] release notes draft

2014-01-13 Thread Robby Findler
Here's the latest draft. Robby Racket 5.92 has a new package system, including a catalog of hundreds of already-available packages. Please visit http://pkgs.racket-lang.org/ for an overview of the packages. Recent releases included the "beta" versions of the package system. Racket version 6.

Re: [racket-dev] release notes draft

2014-01-13 Thread Matthias Felleisen
-- please no 'now's (every bullet in Vincent's wording includes it) -- didn't we say at some point we want to keep things short and point to longer on-line announcements? On Jan 13, 2014, at 5:04 PM, Robby Findler wrote: > Thanks! > > I didn't include the DrRacket one, since I ha

Re: [racket-dev] release notes draft

2014-01-13 Thread Robby Findler
Thanks! I didn't include the DrRacket one, since I have more plans for that and would like to hold off announcing it until I get those things done (notably better some color-blindness color schemes, but also other tweaks to make color schemes just work better in general). Robby On Mon, Jan 13,

Re: [racket-dev] release notes draft

2014-01-13 Thread Vincent St-Amour
At Mon, 13 Jan 2014 12:25:06 -0600, Robby Findler wrote: > > [1 ] > On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 11:05 AM, Vincent St-Amour > wrote: > > > These release notes look good to me, but maybe a bit short. > > > > Since this is our first release with new features since 5.3.4 last May, > > I would have expe

Re: [racket-dev] release notes draft

2014-01-13 Thread Robby Findler
I took Matthias's for now. :) faster than light, I think. Robby On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 12:33 PM, Matthias Felleisen wrote: > > faster than what? > > > On Jan 13, 2014, at 1:32 PM, Sam Tobin-Hochstadt > wrote: > > > * Typed Racket is 50% faster when type checking some programs. > > For exam

Re: [racket-dev] release notes draft

2014-01-13 Thread Matthias Felleisen
faster than what? On Jan 13, 2014, at 1:32 PM, Sam Tobin-Hochstadt wrote: > * Typed Racket is 50% faster when type checking some programs. > For example: http://bit.ly/1d0Ye4z > > Sam > > On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 1:25 PM, Robby Findler > wrote: >> I'll wait for an actual new bullet here,

Re: [racket-dev] release notes draft

2014-01-13 Thread Sam Tobin-Hochstadt
* Typed Racket is 50% faster when type checking some programs. For example: http://bit.ly/1d0Ye4z Sam On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 1:25 PM, Robby Findler wrote: > I'll wait for an actual new bullet here, if one of Sam/Matthias doesn't mind > writing it? > > Robby > > > On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 11:0

Re: [racket-dev] release notes draft

2014-01-13 Thread Matthias Felleisen
-- the performance of the Typed Racket compiler improved by 50% on some typed programs; see http://bit.ly/1d0Ye4z > > >> see http:// ... On Jan 13, 2014, at 1:25 PM, Robby Findler wrote: > I'll wait for an actual new bullet here, if one of Sam/Matthias doesn't mind > writing it? > > Robb

Re: [racket-dev] release notes draft

2014-01-13 Thread Robby Findler
I'll wait for an actual new bullet here, if one of Sam/Matthias doesn't mind writing it? Robby On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 11:06 AM, Matthias Felleisen wrote: > > Use 'compiler performance' > > Avoid 'faster' without 'than' > > > > On Jan 13, 2014, at 12:05 PM, Sam Tobin-Hochstadt > wrote: > > > I

Re: [racket-dev] release notes draft

2014-01-13 Thread Robby Findler
On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 11:05 AM, Vincent St-Amour wrote: > These release notes look good to me, but maybe a bit short. > > Since this is our first release with new features since 5.3.4 last May, > I would have expected a longer list. For example, during the previous > release notes discussion, Ja

Re: [racket-dev] release notes draft

2014-01-13 Thread Sam Tobin-Hochstadt
I don't like the use of "compilation" here, but I'm happy to drop "now". Sam On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 12:02 PM, Matthias Felleisen wrote: > > I would omit 'now' (that's the whole point of a release announcement) and I'd > avoid the dangling comparison with > > the Typed Racket compilation impro

Re: [racket-dev] release notes draft

2014-01-13 Thread Matthias Felleisen
Use 'compiler performance' Avoid 'faster' without 'than' On Jan 13, 2014, at 12:05 PM, Sam Tobin-Hochstadt wrote: > I don't like the use of "compilation" here, but I'm happy to drop "now". > > Sam > > On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 12:02 PM, Matthias Felleisen > wrote: >> >> I would omit 'now

Re: [racket-dev] release notes draft

2014-01-13 Thread Vincent St-Amour
These release notes look good to me, but maybe a bit short. Since this is our first release with new features since 5.3.4 last May, I would have expected a longer list. For example, during the previous release notes discussion, Jay and Neil had some bullets that I don't see on this list. There als

Re: [racket-dev] release notes draft

2014-01-13 Thread Matthias Felleisen
I would omit 'now' (that's the whole point of a release announcement) and I'd avoid the dangling comparison with the Typed Racket compilation improved by 50% on some typed programs; see http:// ... On Jan 13, 2014, at 11:43 AM, Sam Tobin-Hochstadt wrote: > Looks good. > > On Mon, J

Re: [racket-dev] release notes draft

2014-01-13 Thread Sam Tobin-Hochstadt
Looks good. On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 11:40 AM, Robby Findler wrote: > How about this bullet: > > * Typed Racket is now 50% faster when type checking some programs. >For example: http://bit.ly/1d0Ye4z > > > > On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 9:56 AM, Sam Tobin-Hochstadt > wrote: >> >> The graph is at:

Re: [racket-dev] release notes draft

2014-01-13 Thread Robby Findler
How about this bullet: * Typed Racket is now 50% faster when type checking some programs. For example: http://bit.ly/1d0Ye4z On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 9:56 AM, Sam Tobin-Hochstadt wrote: > The graph is at: > > http://drdr.racket-lang.org/28051/pkgs/typed-racket-pkgs/typed-racket-test/tests/t

Re: [racket-dev] release notes draft

2014-01-13 Thread Sam Tobin-Hochstadt
The graph is at: http://drdr.racket-lang.org/28051/pkgs/typed-racket-pkgs/typed-racket-test/tests/typed-racket/succeed/new-metrics.rkt Sam On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 10:39 AM, Robby Findler wrote: > Okay, new version below. Thanks! > > If there is a drdr graph that shows the 50% jump, I'd like to a

Re: [racket-dev] release notes draft

2014-01-13 Thread Robby Findler
Okay, new version below. Thanks! If there is a drdr graph that shows the 50% jump, I'd like to add that pointer into the notes in the bullet you added, eg: * Typed Racket is now 50% faster when type checking some large programs. See, for example: http://drdr.racket-lang.org/./bigfile.rkt

Re: [racket-dev] release notes draft

2014-01-13 Thread Sam Tobin-Hochstadt
On Sat, Jan 11, 2014 at 9:27 PM, Robby Findler wrote: > Below is the latest release notes draft. Comments? > > Robby > > > > Racket has a new package system, including a catalog of already available > packages. How about: "Racket version 6.0 comes with a new package system, including a catalog o

Re: [racket-dev] release notes draft

2014-01-12 Thread Robby Findler
I had hoped that that was going to be the correct url because " doc.racket-lang.org/pkg" is the top of the packages docs and the v5.92 packages documentation has a "getting-started.html" file. Robby On Sun, Jan 12, 2014 at 4:51 PM, Matthias Felleisen wrote: > > > It would be nice if the docs url

Re: [racket-dev] release notes draft

2014-01-12 Thread Matthias Felleisen
It would be nice if the docs url were functional. -- Matthias On Jan 11, 2014, at 9:27 PM, Robby Findler wrote: > Below is the latest release notes draft. Comments? > > Robby > > > > Racket has a new package system, including a catalog of already available > packages. Please visit > > ht