Re: Security [Was] Re: RemotePolicy service

2011-08-04 Thread Peter Firmstone
Dan Creswell wrote: Hi Peter, On 4 August 2011 03:43, Peter Firmstone wrote: Dan, you're wise and I respect your view. Thank you equally be careful how much wiseness you attribute to me and thus how much respect you give me - nobody is perfect! :) Security matters to me because

Re: Security [Was] Re: RemotePolicy service

2011-08-04 Thread Dan Creswell
Hi Peter, On 4 August 2011 03:43, Peter Firmstone wrote: > Dan, you're wise and I respect your view. > Thank you equally be careful how much wiseness you attribute to me and thus how much respect you give me - nobody is perfect! :) > Security matters to me because I plan to deploy over insecure

Re: RemotePolicy service

2011-08-03 Thread Peter Firmstone
The big issues, are always about "security" as a starting point. And it's hard to manage security without some pre-established settings. What do we all think about a "default" security configuration (such as binding to localhost, asserting a download permission and using SSL) that fall o

Security [Was] Re: RemotePolicy service

2011-08-03 Thread Peter Firmstone
Dan, you're wise and I respect your view. Security matters to me because I plan to deploy over insecure networks. Luckily security is mostly complete, Bob Scheifler's team achieved what they set out to do, a very difficult task I might add. But this takes skill on the application developers p

Re: RemotePolicy service

2011-08-03 Thread Peter Firmstone
Gregg Wonderly wrote: On 8/2/2011 3:15 AM, Dan Creswell wrote: How will an administrator know when their djinn has reached equilibrium? Answer: Probably by observation rather than providing a guaranteed time period. Next question: Do your interfaces support the administrator need to understa

Re: RemotePolicy service

2011-08-03 Thread Gregg Wonderly
On 8/3/2011 3:08 PM, Dan Creswell wrote: I recall Waldo saying some time ago that systems get harder and harder to do as you in order from: (1) Single-thread single machine. (2) Multi-thread single machine. (3) Multi-machine. (4) Multi-machine with security. On that basis, I'm tempted to say we

Re: RemotePolicy service

2011-08-03 Thread Dan Creswell
I recall Waldo saying some time ago that systems get harder and harder to do as you in order from: (1) Single-thread single machine. (2) Multi-thread single machine. (3) Multi-machine. (4) Multi-machine with security. On that basis, I'm tempted to say we should make our lives easier by setting so

Re: RemotePolicy service

2011-08-03 Thread Gregg Wonderly
On 8/2/2011 3:15 AM, Dan Creswell wrote: How will an administrator know when their djinn has reached equilibrium? Answer: Probably by observation rather than providing a guaranteed time period. Next question: Do your interfaces support the administrator need to understand their djinn's behaviou

Re: RemotePolicy service

2011-08-02 Thread Peter Firmstone
ServiceRegistrar, which is authenticated before code is downloaded. 3. The node then registers a RemotePolicy with the registrar and awaits policy configuration by an authenticating administration client (the local RemotePolicy service must also be authenticated by the client). 4. The

Re: RemotePolicy service

2011-08-02 Thread Peter Firmstone
ed having a logging service, to log SecurityException's, however the difficulty is one change could cause an avalanche of logging, a self inflicted denial of service. Perhaps an AdminLog, that could be obtained through administrable, I'm not sure. It would be possible to have a pseudo Re

Re: RemotePolicy service

2011-08-02 Thread Dan Creswell
How will an administrator know when their djinn has reached equilibrium? Answer: Probably by observation rather than providing a guaranteed time period. Next question: Do your interfaces support the administrator need to understand their djinn's behaviour? On 2 August 2011 01:52, Peter Firmstone

RemotePolicy service

2011-08-01 Thread Peter Firmstone
Just get some feedback on this potential remote policy service. The main intent here is to provide a secure centralised policy administrator to simplify java security policy management for a djinn group. Note this is new work, so it doesn't yet support encrypted policy files. I've used code