Re: [RT] Feature archives, launcher and Sling Starter

2020-03-26 Thread Robert Munteanu
On Thu, 2020-03-26 at 16:57 +0100, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: > On Thu, Mar 26, 2020 at 4:45 PM Carsten Ziegeler < > cziege...@apache.org> wrote: > > ...its probably good to keep the features in the > > starter project but have a nice set of them (which we kind of > > already > > have today) and do

Re: [RT] Feature archives, launcher and Sling Starter

2020-03-26 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On Thu, Mar 26, 2020 at 4:45 PM Carsten Ziegeler wrote: > ...its probably good to keep the features in the > starter project but have a nice set of them (which we kind of already > have today) and downstream users can also pick and choose from them... +1 -Bertrand

Re: [RT] Feature archives, launcher and Sling Starter

2020-03-26 Thread Carsten Ziegeler
On 26.03.2020 16:25, Robert Munteanu wrote: On Thu, 2020-03-26 at 15:48 +0100, Carsten Ziegeler wrote: I actually started writing that we need a script, but decided against it, but if I'm not the only one thinking about it, maybe there's some value it in. :) Karaf (and probably others) have

Re: [RT] Feature archives, launcher and Sling Starter

2020-03-26 Thread Robert Munteanu
On Thu, 2020-03-26 at 15:48 +0100, Carsten Ziegeler wrote: > On 26.03.2020 15:12, Robert Munteanu wrote: > > Well, if we ask users to download only one artifact and the other > > is > > downloaded on-demand, then the situation is mostly the same IMO. > > > Oh, I see, now I get what you are saying.

Re: [RT] Feature archives, launcher and Sling Starter

2020-03-26 Thread Carsten Ziegeler
On 26.03.2020 15:12, Robert Munteanu wrote: Well, if we ask users to download only one artifact and the other is downloaded on-demand, then the situation is mostly the same IMO. Oh, I see, now I get what you are saying. Yes, that's true We could also provide a shell script for download which

Re: [RT] Feature archives, launcher and Sling Starter

2020-03-26 Thread Robert Munteanu
On Thu, 2020-03-26 at 13:02 +0100, Carsten Ziegeler wrote: > Hi Robert, > > On 26.03.2020 12:38, Robert Munteanu wrote: > > Hi Carsten, > > > > On Wed, 2020-03-25 at 10:21 +0100, Carsten Ziegeler wrote: > > > Add this point I'm a little bit unsure which way to go with the > > > starter, > > > the

Re: [RT] Feature archives, launcher and Sling Starter

2020-03-26 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Hi, On Thu, Mar 26, 2020 at 1:23 PM wrote: > ...I do think however this feature needs to be well documented. > Would love to help out with that... FWIW, the instructions for updating our website are at https://github.com/apache/sling-site Some modules have documentation directly in their README

RE: [RT] Feature archives, launcher and Sling Starter

2020-03-26 Thread rr
rds Carsten > Thank you > Ruben > > -Original Message- > From: Robert Munteanu > Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2020 4:38 AM > To: dev@sling.apache.org > Subject: Re: [RT] Feature archives, launcher and Sling Starter > > Hi Carsten, > > On Wed, 2020-03-25 at 1

Re: [RT] Feature archives, launcher and Sling Starter

2020-03-26 Thread Carsten Ziegeler
arch 26, 2020 4:38 AM To: dev@sling.apache.org Subject: Re: [RT] Feature archives, launcher and Sling Starter Hi Carsten, On Wed, 2020-03-25 at 10:21 +0100, Carsten Ziegeler wrote: Add this point I'm a little bit unsure which way to go with the starter, therefore asking for feedback. I

Re: [RT] Feature archives, launcher and Sling Starter

2020-03-26 Thread Carsten Ziegeler
Hi Robert, On 26.03.2020 12:38, Robert Munteanu wrote: Hi Carsten, On Wed, 2020-03-25 at 10:21 +0100, Carsten Ziegeler wrote: Add this point I'm a little bit unsure which way to go with the starter, therefore asking for feedback. I'm currently leaning towards the second option: just creating a

RE: [RT] Feature archives, launcher and Sling Starter

2020-03-26 Thread rr
obert Munteanu Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2020 4:38 AM To: dev@sling.apache.org Subject: Re: [RT] Feature archives, launcher and Sling Starter Hi Carsten, On Wed, 2020-03-25 at 10:21 +0100, Carsten Ziegeler wrote: > Add this point I'm a little bit unsure which way to go with the > st

Re: [RT] Feature archives, launcher and Sling Starter

2020-03-26 Thread Robert Munteanu
Hi Carsten, On Wed, 2020-03-25 at 10:21 +0100, Carsten Ziegeler wrote: > Add this point I'm a little bit unsure which way to go with the > starter, > therefore asking for feedback. I'm currently leaning towards the > second > option: just creating a feature archive for the starter (which we > ca

Re: [RT] Feature archives, launcher and Sling Starter

2020-03-25 Thread Carsten Ziegeler
Right, the proposed idea does not invalidate the usefulness of the kickstart project. I think they are complementary. Feature archives allow to distribute a complete feature without requiring any additional infrastructure (like a maven repository) Regards Carsten On 25.03.2020 19:12, Andreas

Re: [RT] Feature archives, launcher and Sling Starter

2020-03-25 Thread Carsten Ziegeler
Good idea, we could make this a default directory that the launcher uses to find feature files and archives - if not specified. Regards Carsten On 25.03.2020 14:37, Konrad Windszus wrote: In any case, we should probably add support to the feature launcher to launch feature archives directl

Re: [RT] Feature archives, launcher and Sling Starter

2020-03-25 Thread Carsten Ziegeler
Yes, right, we should be able to run the launcher directly using the archive as a maven repository without extracting it. Regards Carsten On 25.03.2020 10:37, Karl Pauls wrote: Add this point I'm a little bit unsure which way to go with the starter, therefore asking for feedback. I'm currently

Re: [RT] Feature archives, launcher and Sling Starter

2020-03-25 Thread Carsten Ziegeler
Thanks Bertrand, good points - yes with switching to the feature model we will still have these. And I think we already have nearly everything in place for 3) Regards Carsten On 25.03.2020 10:31, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: Hi, On Wed, Mar 25, 2020 at 10:21 AM Carsten Ziegeler wrote: ...Ad

Re: [RT] Feature archives, launcher and Sling Starter

2020-03-25 Thread Andreas Schaefer
HI There is a Sling Feature Starter (https://github.com/apache/sling-org-apache-sling-kickstart ) as well as a Maven Plugin that provides the ability to launch the Sling Feature Starter as a Maven Goal (https://github.com/apache/sling

Re: [RT] Feature archives, launcher and Sling Starter

2020-03-25 Thread Konrad Windszus
> > In any case, we should probably add support to the feature launcher to launch > feature archives directly - regardless of what we do with the starter. That's > a minor addition to the launcher rounding up our tooling story about features. What about a default lookup path for local feature

Re: [RT] Feature archives, launcher and Sling Starter

2020-03-25 Thread Karl Pauls
> Add this point I'm a little bit unsure which way to go with the starter, > therefore asking for feedback. I'm currently leaning towards the second > option: just creating a feature archive for the starter (which we can > already do today) > > WDYT? +1, I think it makes a lot of sense to decouple

Re: [RT] Feature archives, launcher and Sling Starter

2020-03-25 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Hi, On Wed, Mar 25, 2020 at 10:21 AM Carsten Ziegeler wrote: > ...Add this point I'm a little bit unsure which way to go with the starter.. IMO the Starter has three purposes: 1) Provide a quick way to experiment with Sling 2) Be a living example of how to assemble your own variant of Sling wit

[RT] Feature archives, launcher and Sling Starter

2020-03-25 Thread Carsten Ziegeler
Hi, our current Sling starter project is still using the provisioning model. It creates a startable jar and a webapp out of it. Moving forward we want to switch to the feature model. We already discussed in previous discussion that supporting a webapp is not necessary. If demanded by users i