Title: Daniel and SpamAssassin are on Slashdot!
You go girl..
;-)
From: Sidney Markowitz
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dev@spamassassin.apache.orgSubject: Daniel and SpamAssassin are on
Slashdot!
Daniel and SpamAssassin are on Slashdot!http://it.slashdot.org/arti
Daniel and SpamAssassin are on Slashdot!
http://it.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=05/03/04/2010218&tid=111
-- sidney
On Sat, Mar 05, 2005 at 09:36:37AM +1300, Sidney Markowitz wrote:
> available from SpamAssassin. The only way it costs money to use it from
> SpamAssassin is when somebody packages SpamAssassin with something else
> as a commercial product and sells it. (Is that true? Does a large ISP
> who uses Sp
Duncan Findlay wrote:
> That's arguably a bug in the operating system then
I don't think it is even that, but I agree with you that it is not our
place to work around it.
Consider this: Razor is free to use if the client software is free. The
client module may come freely with the OS. The client
On Fri, Mar 04, 2005 at 11:39:11AM -0800, Daniel Quinlan wrote:
> Daryl C W O'Shea <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > Shouldn't people evaluate whether or not they are eligible to use
> > Razor2 before downloading (and installing) the razor-agents from
> > Vipul's website?
>
> Yes, but Razor is in
On Sat, Mar 05, 2005 at 08:19:28AM +1300, Sidney Markowitz wrote:
> Daryl C. W. O'Shea wrote:
> > Shouldn't people evaluate whether or not they are eligible to use Razor2
> > before downloading (and installing) the razor-agents from Vipul's website?
>
> That was the substance of the reply I tried
Daryl C W O'Shea <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Shouldn't people evaluate whether or not they are eligible to use
> Razor2 before downloading (and installing) the razor-agents from
> Vipul's website?
Yes, but Razor is included with many Linux distributions and a lot of
people have installs (which
Daryl C. W. O'Shea wrote:
> Shouldn't people evaluate whether or not they are eligible to use Razor2
> before downloading (and installing) the razor-agents from Vipul's website?
That was the substance of the reply I tried to write last night but was
too sleepy to finish.
I thought about how I nev
Frederik Eaton wrote:
> Is it possible to configure spamassassin to get back the original
> functionality of only modifying headers of spam
1. Look up the doc on rewrite_header and report_safe in man
Mail::SpamAssassin::Conf or other documentation
2. Any further questions about this or similar to
"Malte S. Stretz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Hmmm... I don't think SpamCop, BondedSender and Habeas fit in that list :)
No, they do. They're 100% free to use for filtering. It does cost
money to be listed in IADB, Bonded Sender, and Habeas, but that doesn't
ever interfere with the free usage
http://bugzilla.spamassassin.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4140
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implementation
Implements "always_trust_envelope_sender
Daniel Quinlan wrote:
Commenting out the plugin in 3.1 where people are going to want to check
init.pre anyway, is not a huge deal, and it gives everyone an
opportunity to evaluate whether or not they are eligible to use Razor2
before using it.
Shouldn't people evaluate whether or not they are eli
On Fri, Mar 04, 2005 at 01:35:56AM -0800, Daniel Quinlan wrote:
> Fri Mar 11
+1 for Friday.
Michael
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Description: PGP signature
The spamassassin manual page says:
If an incoming message is tagged as spam, instead of modifying the
original message, SpamAssassin will create a new report message and
attach the original message as a message/rfc822 MIME part (ensuring the
original message is complete
Today is a nice day for the Windows SpamAssassin users community:
Free Open Source Windows POP3 proxy (Little version): SpamFuProxy (SA 3.0.2) (with pop3proxy / saproxy / saproxy pro inheritance)
see
http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/ThirdPartySoftware
CTone
Celebrate Yahoo!'s 10th Birt
On Friday 04 March 2005 11:41 CET Daniel Quinlan wrote:
> Sidney Markowitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > Code being free but charging for service is in the best tradition of
> > Free and of Open Source software. Redhat's up2date is open source code
> > (GPL?), using it to access their server poss
Sidney Markowitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Code being free but charging for service is in the best tradition of
> Free and of Open Source software. Redhat's up2date is open source code
> (GPL?), using it to access their server possibly costs money. Email
> client software can be free while the
I vote +0.5 for Fri Mar 11.
I'm voting for that date because it is a weekend here on the other side
of the world, which is the only time I can do anything.
I'm only voting 0.5 because I probably still won't have much time, even
on a weekend :-(.
-- sidney
Daniel Quinlan wrote:
> aspects of the AL 2.0 don't really translate to services, but use does
> and that's my main concern with Razor2.
I find Theo's argument that use of the razor server is always free to a
user of a free SA distribution compelling.
Code being free but charging for service is i
Shelby,
This mailing list is for developer discussions. Developers consist of
the people who have commit access to our source control system, SVN.
As per Apache Foundation policies, the development process is
transparent. That means that the technical and design discussions we
developers have and
Committers and patch authors,
I propose we have a bug squash next week to finish a swath of 3.1 bugs.
Proposed dates:
Wed Mar 9
Fri Mar 11
(Thursday is not great for me and I want to avoid weekend or early in
the week so schedules will perhaps be more free just now.)
The date with the mos
On Thu, Mar 03, 2005 at 11:33:41PM -0800, Dan Quinlan wrote:
> To follow up on this a bit, I think one key word here is "use".
> Obviously, borderline cases are going to jump up and we'll need to use
> our best judgement, but if you look at AL 2.0, use is *always* free.
Use of the code is, yes.
>
Theo Van Dinter wrote:
> Shelby Moore wrote:
>You're being exceedingly rude, FYI.
I thought the same of you when you wrote in this thread, that expressing my
opinion was "hijacking" and when you said "again" as if I hijacked any other
thread in this list. That was accusational (and thus rude)
Daniel Quinlan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> My concern is that we should ship SA in a default state where it can be
> used on terms no more restrictive than Apache License 2.0 (well,
> technically, the union of Apache License 2.0 and the Perl module
> licenses).
To follow up on this a bit, I thi
I found out this evening that it wasn't possible to post "group security" bugs
into BZ. An error got returned about an inactive group.
The problem turned out to be a change from BZ 2.16 in how group ids work, so a
little bit of my code was no longer functioning properly. It's fixed now. :)
--
On Fri, Mar 04, 2005 at 02:48:35PM +0800, Shelby Moore wrote:
> *Read* YOUR OWN license:
>
> http://www.apache.org/licenses/LICENSE-2.0
>
> "Contribution" shall mean any work of authorship, including the original
> version of the Work and any modifications or additions to that Work or
> Derivat
Theo Van Dinter wrote:
>On Thu, Mar 03, 2005 at 09:41:08PM -0800, Dan Quinlan wrote:
>> Well, we are in C-T-R mode. I thought we had a fairly clear consensus
>> back in 2003 and it was even you that reminded me about it so I assumed
>> you agreed.
>
>I must have come to a different conclusion than
On Fri, Mar 04, 2005 at 02:04:45PM +0800, Shelby Moore wrote:
> And since when did this action on Razor not directly correlate to and spawn
> from the discussion on "my thing" being ON or OFF by default.
Because it has nothing to do with you. The issue came up from a discussion
between developer
Theo Van Dinter wrote:
>I don't think you quite understand how voting works. For instance, there was
>no vote.
I admit it the policy and procedure for things like this is not very well
explained on your web site, as far as I can see. I searched and searched for
info on "svn" and it is only cl
On Thu, Mar 03, 2005 at 09:41:08PM -0800, Dan Quinlan wrote:
> Well, we are in C-T-R mode. I thought we had a fairly clear consensus
> back in 2003 and it was even you that reminded me about it so I assumed
> you agreed.
I must have come to a different conclusion than you did based on the thread.
BTW, please let me know, Theo if that change (init.pre instead of
use_razor2) will get your -0.5 to be a +0.0 or greater or if you'll need
to pull out the -1.0.
Thanks.
Daniel
--
Daniel Quinlan
http://www.pathname.com/~quinlan/
On Fri, Mar 04, 2005 at 01:35:07PM +0800, Shelby Moore wrote:
> Ironically veto commit power is a double-edged sword isn't it. As I read
> your VotingRules page, Veto means there is nothing left to discuss. Daniel
> only needs a valid reason.
I don't think you quite understand how voting works
http://bugzilla.spamassassin.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4169
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Theo Van Dinter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> We didn't finis discussing this before the change was made.
Well, we are in C-T-R mode. I thought we had a fairly clear consensus
back in 2003 and it was even you that reminded me about it so I assumed
you agreed. But, really, the main factor for me
And I forgot that I also think to be totally consistent, Razor2 plugin should
be listed in the CustomPlugins page and License should state it is "not free
for commercial use", just as I assume will be future case for any future
AccuTechnology plugin.
Theo Van Dinter wrote:
>On Thu, Mar 03, 2005 at 11:33:08PM -, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> belatedly disable Razor2 by default per our policy (service is not free
>> for non-personal use), Razor2 plugin code remains in the tree via
>> grandfathering for now
>> also change Razor2 scores to be
http://bugzilla.spamassassin.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4170
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Edit distance prototype
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http://bugzilla.spamassassin.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4170
Summary: Obfuscated text with (arbitrary) edit distances
Product: Spamassassin
Version: unspecified
Platform: Other
OS/Version: other
Status: NEW
Severity: normal
On Thu, Mar 03, 2005 at 11:33:08PM -, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> belatedly disable Razor2 by default per our policy (service is not free
> for non-personal use), Razor2 plugin code remains in the tree via
> grandfathering for now
> also change Razor2 scores to be non-mutable since Razor2 wi
http://bugzilla.spamassassin.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4169
Summary: Anonymous bugzilla bug submission
Product: Spamassassin
Version: unspecified
Platform: Other
OS/Version: other
Status: NEW
Severity: enhancement
Priorit
On Thursday, March 3, 2005, 10:37:48 AM, bugzilla-daemon bugzilla-daemon wrote:
> http://bugzilla.spamassassin.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3924
> --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2005-03-03 10:37 ---
> The ActiveState perl bug that causes this crash appears to have been fixed in
> t
Brook Humphrey wrote:
> Shelby Moore wrote:
>> SpamAssassin may find eventually it needs to have a global Bayesian
>> database to remain competitive (in terms of false negative and false
>> positive error rates) with systems, such as Death2Spam, etc..
>>
>> BTW, I hear many anecdotal reports of 99%
Malte S. Stretz wrote:
[snip]
> But I must admit that I stopped reading your
>other thread after I read the words "patent", "(tm)"
So you are against trademarks. Okay. So I thus may use your name without your
permission and pretend to be you?
> and "100%
>Accurate"
I did not write that in
Chris Santerre wrote:
>There are no guarantees in this world. And a chance at getting in the main
>is about as good as Daniel baking me a cake. :)
At least Daniel is consistent :)
>Again, the process usually goes:
>1) I had idea, here is some code.
>2) Code seems worthy, we shall test.
>3) S/O
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