[shale] Inconsistent end-of-line markers

2005-09-01 Thread Manfred Klug
Currently shale use both, Windows (CRLF) and Unix (LF) line endings. My suggestion is to set the svn:eol-style property to native. This will result in consistent line endings across all platforms. Manfred __ Verschicken Sie romantisch

DO NOT REPLY [Bug 35839] - [shale] Clay processes components inside HTML comments

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DO NOT REPLY [Bug 35839] - [shale] Clay processes components inside HTML comments

2005-09-01 Thread bugzilla
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[Struts Wiki] Update of "StrutsTi/BeehivePageFlow" by RichFeit

2005-09-01 Thread Apache Wiki
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Re: [ti] Status Matrix

2005-09-01 Thread James Mitchell
I would rather not have to maintain both a Maven plugin and an Ant task. With Maven it is trivially simple to do an ant call. That might be a better solution. One thing I was wondering though. Does the reference to "...simplicity of Ruby on Rails..." mean that one day, a developer can

Re: [ti] Status Matrix

2005-09-01 Thread Rich Feit
I agree with all points. The file generation based on annotations is on par with generating through XDoclet -- having a simple ant macro would be nice IMO. We could still provide a maven plugin, though, right? Something that would look in a well-known place for annotated controller classes.

Re: Struts Ti / JSF sample

2005-09-01 Thread Rich Feit
Sounds good from my point of view. :) As to a structure for the distribution, would it simply be something like: docs lib samples java5 java1.4 tools README, etc. ? Rich James Mitchell wrote: My plan would be to publish the nightlies here: http://svn.apache.org/

svn commit: r266288 - /struts/shale/trunk/use-cases/src/web/WEB-INF/chain-config.xml

2005-09-01 Thread gvanmatre
Author: gvanmatre Date: Thu Sep 1 22:18:57 2005 New Revision: 266288 URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewcvs?rev=266288&view=rev Log: Added automatic reloading of the Clay configuration files if modified. Modified: struts/shale/trunk/use-cases/src/web/WEB-INF/chain-config.xml Modified: struts/sh

svn commit: r266287 - in /struts/shale/trunk/clay-plugin/src: java/org/apache/shale/clay/config/ java/org/apache/shale/clay/config/beans/ test/org/apache/shale/clay/config/ test/org/apache/shale/clay/parser/

2005-09-01 Thread gvanmatre
Author: gvanmatre Date: Thu Sep 1 22:14:12 2005 New Revision: 266287 URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewcvs?rev=266287&view=rev Log: Added automatic reloading of the Clay configuration files if modified. Added: struts/shale/trunk/clay-plugin/src/java/org/apache/shale/clay/config/beans/ConfigDef

Re: [ti] Status Matrix

2005-09-01 Thread James Mitchell
I don't know the extent of the process you are talking about, but I wouldn't recommend using Maven for it. Ant makes the most sense, since: a) it is *the* most widely supported build tool, b) all major IDEs already have fairly advanced support for it, c) Maven 1.0.2 uses it under the covers

Re: Struts Ti / JSF sample

2005-09-01 Thread James Mitchell
My plan would be to publish the nightlies here: http://svn.apache.org/builds/struts/maven/trunk/nightly/struts-sandbox/ ...under a new directory 'ti' Does that sound ok? -- James Mitchell Software Engineer / Open Source Evangelist Consulting / Mentoring / Freelance EdgeTech, Inc. http://www.ed

Re: Struts Ti / JSF sample

2005-09-01 Thread Rich Feit
First, I just want to mention that I've never been involved in a project where anyone's given so much thought/attention to the build from the ground up. Thank you -- it's a pleasure! Much nicer than rewriting the build a few months down the road. I definitely support getting nightlies out th

Re: [ti] Status Matrix

2005-09-01 Thread Rich Feit
Sorry, I should have been clearer. I was thinking specifically of any build-time support we provide, like generating files based on annotations/tags (the converse of the live feedback feature). I assume this would translate to ant macros or a maven plugin (I'm guessing/proposing that we do bo

Re: [ti] Status Matrix

2005-09-01 Thread James Mitchell
I'm not sure I understand. If a user wants to create a new ti-based application, wouldn't they just do the same thing they are doing now with Struts/JSF/Whatever or anything else? (e.g. Add the jars to the classpath to their existing build process, build and deploy) Or are we talking abou

Re: [ti] Status Matrix

2005-09-01 Thread Rich Feit
OK, I just tried this. But the main thing I'm wondering about here is the project model for our users (rather than for us). To create a Struts Ti project, what do they need? Will we provide them with jars and a set of ant macros for integrating Ti into their own builds, or will we mandate th

[Struts Wiki] Update of "StrutsTi" by RichFeit

2005-09-01 Thread Apache Wiki
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[Struts Wiki] Update of "StrutsTi/BeehivePageFlow" by RichFeit

2005-09-01 Thread Apache Wiki
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Re: [shale] Maven build update

2005-09-01 Thread Craig McClanahan
On 9/1/05, Wendy Smoak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > What is not working is the script in use-cases/maven.xml to conditionally > comment out the MyFaces listener in web.xml -- I want to take another look > at it after I get some sleep... maybe it's just a simple typo. :) I > haven't > been ab

Re: Struts Ti / JSF sample

2005-09-01 Thread James Mitchell
I think it would be a good idea for us to discuss and decide on the layout and build processes. The build process needs to be documented end to end. We should identify the artifacts created, when and why it is created. More than the simple comments that I put in maven.xml. I will volunt

DO NOT REPLY [Bug 21282] - [validator] numeric validations should use locales

2005-09-01 Thread bugzilla
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svn commit: r265811 [2/2] - in /struts/sandbox/trunk/ti: ./ jars/core/src/java/org/apache/ti/ wars/samples-jsf/ wars/samples-jsf/src/ wars/samples-jsf/src/java/ wars/samples-jsf/src/java/jsf/ wars/sam

2005-09-01 Thread mrdon
Added: struts/sandbox/trunk/ti/wars/samples-jsf/src/webapp/WEB-INF/web.xml.jsf-ri URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewcvs/struts/sandbox/trunk/ti/wars/samples-jsf/src/webapp/WEB-INF/web.xml.jsf-ri?rev=265811&view=auto == --- s

Re: [shale] Maven build update

2005-09-01 Thread Wendy Smoak
James Mitchell wrote: You should be able to make Maven happy without actually changing the Shale directories, you could do all of this in a separate directory structure. This structure would have nothing in it besides the Maven build files. Basically what I'm getting at is a way to make eve

Re: Spring and XWork in Ti

2005-09-01 Thread Ted Husted
On 9/1/05, Joe Germuska <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > but that XML is not a very nice way to define everything that needs > to happen, and object-level composition is also likely to be awkward > for some of these kinds of things. Well, in the spirit of discussion ... An important consideration i

Re: Spring and XWork in Ti

2005-09-01 Thread Don Brown
At this stage in the project, we are exploring problems and solutions. It can be misleading to follow the dev discussion thinking this is what the user will need to know and understand in order to use the project. Each of the components discussed here are solutions to problems. What Ti is try

Re: Spring and XWork in Ti

2005-09-01 Thread netsql
As MF says: "Comprehensiveness is the enemy of comprehensibility". To that end, if there is a way to have one, but not both, it's a plus. Spring + CoR + WebWork + XYZ... that looks scary (and still not defulting to "Ajax"). Don, If you like IoC, lets start w/ HiveMind (or whatever IoC + iBati

Re: [shale] Why does data disappear when terminating?

2005-09-01 Thread Gary VanMatre
>On 9/1/05, Craig McClanahan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> >> It's like the difference between reusing common code by refactoring it >> into a separate method, and calling it, versus reusing common code by >> cut-n-paste. I prefer the former :-). Incidentally, this aspect of dialog's >> desig

Re: Spring and XWork in Ti

2005-09-01 Thread Joe Germuska
At 12:41 PM -0700 9/1/05, Don Brown wrote: Hmm...well there are three main issues we are discussing here, although you mention at the end they do have some overlap: 1. Framework-level request processing 2. Action-level processing 3. Application-level page flow/workflow When was referring to co

Re: [shale] Maven build update

2005-09-01 Thread James Mitchell
One option that I (sort of) last time we chatted. You should be able to make Maven happy without actually changing the Shale directories, you could do all of this in a separate directory structure. This structure would have nothing in it besides the Maven build files. Proposal: /shale

Re: [ti] Status Matrix

2005-09-01 Thread James Mitchell
Oh, no worries. Maven will generate an Ant build.xml for you. Unfortunately, it won't do the multiproject thing for you, but if you go into ti/jars/core and do "maven ant", Maven will generate an Ant build.xml file. hmmm...I just tried this, but since we have multiple repositories declar

Re: Spring and XWork in Ti

2005-09-01 Thread Don Brown
Hmm...well there are three main issues we are discussing here, although you mention at the end they do have some overlap: 1. Framework-level request processing 2. Action-level processing 3. Application-level page flow/workflow When was referring to commons-chain being a poor match for workflow

Re: [ti] Status Matrix

2005-09-01 Thread James Mitchell
Actually, if you want "jar-all war-all", just run "maven dist" from the root ti folder. -- James Mitchell Software Engineer / Open Source Evangelist Consulting / Mentoring / Freelance EdgeTech, Inc. http://www.edgetechservices.net/ 678.910.8017 AIM: jmitchtx Yahoo: jmitchtx MSN: [EMAIL PROT

svn commit: r265772 [3/3] - in /struts/sandbox/trunk/overdrive/Nexus: ./ Core/ Core/Helpers/ Core/Profile/ Core/Tables/ Core/Validators/ Extras/ Extras/Spring/ Test/ Test/Commands/ Web/

2005-09-01 Thread husted
Modified: struts/sandbox/trunk/overdrive/Nexus/Web/WebViewHelper.cs URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewcvs/struts/sandbox/trunk/overdrive/Nexus/Web/WebViewHelper.cs?rev=265772&r1=265771&r2=265772&view=diff == --- struts/sandbo

DO NOT REPLY [Bug 36467] - html:options

2005-09-01 Thread bugzilla
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Re: [ti] Status Matrix

2005-09-01 Thread Rich Feit
That's great -- my new default. Thanks. What do you think about the ant-vs-maven issue for user projects? I feel that while we should support maven, we should not require it. Do you have a sense for whether this is right? Rich James Mitchell wrote: Actually, if you want "jar-all war-all"

Re: Spring and XWork in Ti

2005-09-01 Thread Ted Husted
Well, that is pretty cool. But, using Chain, I wouldn't use a filter. I'd define two commands, one to start the timer and one to stop the timer. The timer would go into the context, which is thread-safe. Then wherever we wanted to use the timer commands, we'd turn the command into a chain (if it

DO NOT REPLY [Bug 36467] New: - html:options

2005-09-01 Thread bugzilla
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Re: Spring and XWork in Ti

2005-09-01 Thread Craig McClanahan
On 9/1/05, Don Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Therefore, my point is an interceptor chain is better suited to a scalable, > linear process flow, while chain is better for decision points. And > neither, > I'd argue, is well suited for a robust, configurable workflow, and this > surely > we can

RE: Spring and XWork in Ti

2005-09-01 Thread Jay Burgess
As a dev list lurker, let me say I too am "really enjoying this discussion". I'm learning a ton. Jay http://www.vtgroup.com/ -Original Message- From: Don Brown [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2005 1:06 PM To: Struts Developers List Subject: Re: Spring and XWork

Re: Spring and XWork in Ti

2005-09-01 Thread Don Brown
Perhaps an example would help convey what I'm trying to say: Take a simple case where you want to processing time and log it to a file. As a XWork interceptor, it would look like this: long startTime = System.currentTimeMillis(); String result = invocation.invoke(); long executionTime =

Re: [ti] Status Matrix

2005-09-01 Thread Rich Feit
Ahh... 'maven jar-all war-all'. Nice. Thanks, James. James Mitchell wrote: A better option might be to run any of the '*-all' targets listed here... http://svn.apache.org/viewcvs.cgi/struts/sandbox/trunk/ti/maven.xml? rev=264938&view=markup I am currently working on adding cactus test i

Re: Maven remote repositories and SNAPSHOT (was New Validator 1.2.0-dev dependency)

2005-09-01 Thread Craig McClanahan
On 9/1/05, Ted Husted <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > It says Shale is up to date at 265744, but the URL message is not there > for me. > > Since Spring is under the Apache License, can't we just park this JAR > with our own? We don't like to binaries in the repository, for > technical reasons, b

Re: Maven remote repositories and SNAPSHOT (was New Validator 1.2.0-dev dependency)

2005-09-01 Thread Ted Husted
It says Shale is up to date at 265744, but the URL message is not there for me. Since Spring is under the Apache License, can't we just park this JAR with our own? We don't like to binaries in the repository, for technical reasons, but I don't think there would be a legal problem with tucking an

Re: Spring and XWork in Ti

2005-09-01 Thread Ted Husted
On 9/1/05, Don Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >In that case, I find interceptors more practical, as they allow > you to have code before and after processing that uses method variables. With > Chain, you have to use a Filter and even then, there is no way to share > variables between the two blo

Re: [ti] Status Matrix

2005-09-01 Thread James Mitchell
A better option might be to run any of the '*-all' targets listed here... http://svn.apache.org/viewcvs.cgi/struts/sandbox/trunk/ti/maven.xml? rev=264938&view=markup I am currently working on adding cactus test integration, but it is not complete yet.soon though. -- James Mitchell So

Re: [shale] Why does data disappear when terminating?

2005-09-01 Thread Craig McClanahan
On 9/1/05, Craig McClanahan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > It's like the difference between reusing common code by refactoring it > into a separate method, and calling it, versus reusing common code by > cut-n-paste. I prefer the former :-). Incidentally, this aspect of dialog's > design came

Re: [shale] Why does data disappear when terminating?

2005-09-01 Thread Craig McClanahan
On 9/1/05, Sean Schofield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > The motivation for getting rid of the data at the end of a subdialog is > > twofold: > > > > * Simulate a scope "longer than a request but shorter than a session" > > so that the application doesn't have to explicitly manage the cleanup >

Re: Spring and XWork in Ti

2005-09-01 Thread Don Brown
Joe Germuska wrote: Just as we discovered Chain commands were difficult to use for Struts users (all the casting for one), Ti users will generally write interceptors and not chain commands. Interceptors are more natural, support around operations better due to easier use local variables, and

Re: Spring and XWork in Ti

2005-09-01 Thread Joe Germuska
Just as we discovered Chain commands were difficult to use for Struts users (all the casting for one), Ti users will generally write interceptors and not chain commands. Interceptors are more natural, support around operations better due to easier use local variables, and provider easier acces

[Struts Wiki] Update of "BuildingShale" by WendySmoak

2005-09-01 Thread Apache Wiki
structions -- === Building Shale with Maven === + * Instructions (updated 20050901) http://wiki.wsmoak.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?ShaleMavenBuild * Check out http://blogs.sun.com/roller/page/wilfred/20050829 if you want to build S

Re: Spring and XWork in Ti

2005-09-01 Thread Don Brown
This is a good question that deserves a wiki writeup as I'm guessing I'll get asked it a lot :) While chain and xwork interceptors do overlap some in theory, they overlap very little in practice. Chain is a general purpose, chain of responsibility pattern that is better suited, IMO, for gener

Re: Maven remote repositories and SNAPSHOT (was New Validator 1.2.0-dev dependency)

2005-09-01 Thread Wendy Smoak
From: "Ted Husted" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Here goes: Attempting to download spring-webflow-PR4.jar. WARNING: Failed to download spring-webflow-PR4.jar. This .jar file isn't available in a public repository, so you have to go find it and put it in your local repository. http://sourceforge.net/pro

Re: Maven remote repositories and SNAPSHOT (was New Validator 1.2.0-dev dependency)

2005-09-01 Thread Ted Husted
On 9/1/05, Wendy Smoak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The 'build-all' goal is usually run from the /struts/current/build. You're > one level down, in the svn external under 'site', so the relative directory > structure doesn't look right. OK, that works. > > When I try the instructions from the S

Re: [shale] Why does data disappear when terminating?

2005-09-01 Thread Sean Schofield
> The motivation for getting rid of the data at the end of a subdialog is > twofold: > > * Simulate a scope "longer than a request but shorter than a session" > so that the application doesn't have to explicitly manage the cleanup > (since the servlet container does not provide such mechanisms).

Re: Maven remote repositories and SNAPSHOT (was New Validator 1.2.0-dev dependency)

2005-09-01 Thread Wendy Smoak
From: "Ted Husted" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I'm not clear on where we stand with the alternate repositories. Do I need to make local changes to my setup to get Struts Classic or Struts Shale to build. You shouldn't. Any additional repositories should be added to 'maven.repo.remote' in the 'proje

Re: Spring and XWork in Ti

2005-09-01 Thread Ted Husted
On 8/31/05, Don Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I should really list this out on the wiki site. The short of it is XWork > gives us an Action framework, interceptor > chains, expression language support, l18n, validation, and the value stack. Do we need both interceptor chains and CoR chains

Re: Maven remote repositories and SNAPSHOT (was New Validator 1.2.0-dev dependency)

2005-09-01 Thread Wendy Smoak
From: "Ted Husted" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Right now, Maven is refusing to build Struts Classic for me when I run it from site/build. Looking at it now... -- Wendy - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional co

svn commit: r265705 - /struts/site/trunk/xdocs/userGuide/release-notes.xml

2005-09-01 Thread husted
Author: husted Date: Thu Sep 1 05:17:06 2005 New Revision: 265705 URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewcvs?rev=265705&view=rev Log: First full draft of release notes, to date. Modified: struts/site/trunk/xdocs/userGuide/release-notes.xml Modified: struts/site/trunk/xdocs/userGuide/release-notes.

Re: Maven remote repositories and SNAPSHOT (was New Validator 1.2.0-dev dependency)

2005-09-01 Thread Ted Husted
I'm not clear on where we stand with the alternate repositories. Do I need to make local changes to my setup to get Struts Classic or Struts Shale to build. Right now, Maven is refusing to build Struts Classic for me when I run it from site/build. It says the build is successful, but nothing act

Struts Ti / JSF sample

2005-09-01 Thread Rich Feit
Hi all, I've added a patch (http://issues.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=36454) for a sample that demonstrates using JSF as the view layer for a Ti app. It's a straight port of the Beehive/JSF sample. It doesn't necessarily show off JSF (or JSF best practices), but it does demonstrate

[Struts Wiki] Update of "StrutsTi/StatusMatrix" by DonBrown

2005-09-01 Thread Apache Wiki
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[shale] Maven build update

2005-09-01 Thread Wendy Smoak
Shale's Maven build has been reworked to use inheritance and a single property (with a default value) to choose between the JSF implementations. http://www.mail-archive.com/dev%40struts.apache.org/msg11576.html I had already added 'myfaces-project.xml' just to make it easy to download the ne

[ti] Status Matrix

2005-09-01 Thread Don Brown
I've talked to several people interested in Ti but unsure where to start. To help define where we are and where we are going, I started a "Status Matrix" wiki page containing features, their completion precentage, and notes. http://wiki.apache.org/struts/StrutsTi/StatusMatrix Please feel fre

[Struts Wiki] Update of "StrutsTi/StatusMatrix" by DonBrown

2005-09-01 Thread Apache Wiki
Dear Wiki user, You have subscribed to a wiki page or wiki category on "Struts Wiki" for change notification. The following page has been changed by DonBrown: http://wiki.apache.org/struts/StrutsTi/StatusMatrix New page: #format wiki #language en This a snapshot of Struts Ti current status. Pl