Re: Concerned Strutszien: A Manifesto

2008-10-21 Thread Philip Luppens
On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 4:20 AM, dusty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > So the more I think about it the more thoughts I have > > The major users like Atlassian and Google forked Webwork a while ago I think > and they don't run their stuff off the Struts2 code base. Don has been > awesome for St

Re: Concerned Strutszien: A Manifesto

2008-10-21 Thread Frank W. Zammetti
dusty wrote: So we get more aggressive with our releases. We definitely want to preserve compatibility but if we have a good reason for breaking compatibility we let people know and show them how to migrate. At the same time we get more aggressive with marketing, by overhauling the website, gett

Re: Concerned Strutszien: A Manifesto

2008-10-21 Thread Jeromy Evans
Wendy Smoak wrote: On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 6:01 PM, Bob Tiernay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I get the sense that CI + Maven is a like wrestling with a slinky. Is this problem endemic to s2? What do other open source projects do to alleviate this? The release process here could be *much

Re: Concerned Strutszien: A Manifesto

2008-10-21 Thread Wendy Smoak
On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 6:01 PM, Bob Tiernay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I get the sense that CI + Maven is a like wrestling with a slinky. Is this > problem endemic to s2? What do other open source projects do to alleviate > this? The release process here could be *much* simpler, but it's reall

Re: Concerned Strutszien: A Manifesto

2008-10-21 Thread Musachy Barroso
These are the steps: http://struts.apache.org/2.x/docs/creating-and-signing-a-struts-21x-distribution.html If they were easier, and there's got to be a way to make it easier, builds would be coming out more often I am sure. On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 9:50 PM, dusty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >

Re: Concerned Strutszien: A Manifesto

2008-10-21 Thread dusty
So the more I think about it the more thoughts I have The major users like Atlassian and Google forked Webwork a while ago I think and they don't run their stuff off the Struts2 code base. Don has been awesome for Struts2, but I don't know if there are any other commiters from Atlassian or G

Re: Concerned Strutszien: A Manifesto

2008-10-21 Thread dusty
Jeromy Evans - Blue Sky Minds wrote: > > I share similar sentiment. Whenever I take a critical look as to whether > to use struts2 I keep coming back to the conclusion that it's > fundamentally sound as far as java frameworks go. > I'd categorize the problem as not enough generals. Most of u

Re: Concerned Strutszien: A Manifesto

2008-10-21 Thread Bob Tiernay
I get the sense that CI + Maven is a like wrestling with a slinky. Is this problem endemic to s2? What do other open source projects do to alleviate this? My #1 issue is that it's *too difficult and time-consuming to create a release* on the 2.1 trunk. If releases are difficult and dependent

Re: Concerned Strutszien: A Manifesto

2008-10-21 Thread Jeromy Evans
dusty wrote: How do we tackle all this? Do we have a meeting? Do we create a Chief who can make decisions for better or for worse? Clearly decisions need to be made. Do we start StrutsCon 2009 and lock everyone in a room until the decisions are made? I started to also write apps in Rails an

Re: Question about URL Class, s:url Tag, s:param and Merging of Parameters

2008-10-21 Thread Torsten Krah
Nvm, did found it myself. -- Bitte senden Sie mir keine Word- oder PowerPoint-Anhänge. Siehe http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.de.html Really, I'm not out to destroy Microsoft. That will just be a completely unintentional side effect." -- Linus Torvalds smime.p7s Descr

Question about URL Class, s:url Tag, s:param and Merging of Parameters

2008-10-21 Thread Torsten Krah
Hi. I want to debug some bug and need some infos about the url Tag. How are parameters merged to the parameter map which are specified by the s:param Tag (2.0.11.2). Can anyone point me to some code lines where this is done? Looking at the URL Class, parameters merging is done in the startTag and