Re: RFC: BLOBAction and Struts Bloat

2004-09-21 Thread Vic
Matthias Wessendorf wrote: Craig, Btw. like Michael, I am interessted in your proposals on Struts 2.0 too :) Checkout this: http://cvs.apache.org/viewcvs.cgi/jakarta-struts/contrib/struts-chain .V -- Please post on Rich Internet Applications User Interface (RiA/SoA) ---

RE: RFC: BLOBAction and Struts Bloat

2004-09-21 Thread Matthias Wessendorf
Craig, > In the near future, you'll also see the initial release > candidate of the Struts-Faces integration library (packaged > separately from the rest of Struts) that allows JavaServer > Faces to be used with Struts 1.1 or 1.2 based applications, > including the use of the Tiles Framework a

Re: RFC: BLOBAction and Struts Bloat

2004-09-21 Thread Michael McGrady
I will be interested to read your thoughts, Craig. I am more than elated to see that you are going to be actively involved with the discussions on the 2.0 architecture. Part of my concern has been the seeming absence of a visionary and thoughtful voice in this process. With Ted's departure a

Re: RFC: BLOBAction and Struts Bloat

2004-09-21 Thread Craig McClanahan
Thanks for your comments, Michael. If you've been following the dev list lately, you've seen some beginning discussions on a Struts 2.0 rearchitecting that would indeed leverage everything we've all learned in the four years since Struts was first created. I have some specific proposals to make i

Re: RFC: BLOBAction and Struts Bloat

2004-09-20 Thread bryan
I've got a good example, check out springworkflow ( sourceforge ) and it's chaining system. http://www.competities.com/springworkflow/chaining.html Chaining is quite frankly a pain with the existing model. The (struts) design needs to be parred down in order to support development according to

Re: RFC: BLOBAction and Struts Bloat

2004-09-20 Thread bryan
There are some things that I certainly agree with michael on and this is one of them. I think ( and i'm not alone in thinking this ) that struts needs a complete overhaul. At present the only reason I use it is because all the existing tooling supports it. eg m7 nitrox, WSAD, MyEclipse etc

Re: RFC: BLOBAction and Struts Bloat

2004-09-20 Thread Frank W. Zammetti (MLists)
Geez, leave it to me to instigate a major overhaul in the structure of a well-known project by making an innocent offering :) (I always was a trouble-maker) Not that I actually have a say or anything, but I think there is a lot of logic in what Michael says. The obvious (to me anyway) difficulty

Re: RFC: BLOBAction and Struts Bloat

2004-09-20 Thread Michael McGrady
Open source and painting are connected in someways. The biggest mistake of the amateur painter is to keep adding colors when the painting is done. The result is always that murky, dark, ugly, look. Likewise, open source, filled with people with egos, sometimes does not know when something is