Re: Structs 2 feedback

2007-02-23 Thread Musachy Barroso
Following up on this, I added the images to the home page. The "version" text needs to be updated for the release. regards musachy On 2/9/07, Ted Husted <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Works for me. On 2/8/07, Musachy Barroso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Because I'm artistically challenged I got h

Re: Structs 2 feedback

2007-02-09 Thread Ted Husted
On 2/9/07, Musachy Barroso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Again, this is our one and only website. This is the site that we use > to create the next release, and so it has to contain whatever we want > the upcoming release to include. I agree with that, but there is no reason why there should b

Re: Structs 2 feedback

2007-02-09 Thread Brian Pontarelli
H... This is a tough one, but I would think that a version scheme change discussion might be in order. It might be fruitless, but I think that type of versioning is pretty rough. Plus, there are nearly zero docs anywhere about it, not just with Struts2, but also with the Tomcat and httpd. Pl

Re: Structs 2 feedback

2007-02-09 Thread Musachy Barroso
Again, this is our one and only website. This is the site that we use to create the next release, and so it has to contain whatever we want the upcoming release to include. I agree with that, but there is no reason why there should be a "Release Notes" on the home page, pointing to something

Re: Structs 2 feedback

2007-02-09 Thread Philip Luppens
Musachy, Sure, no problem. I'll contact you off-list. Thanks ! Cheers, Phil On 2/9/07, Musachy Barroso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Instead of complaining I will actually do something :). Let me know where you are going to set this up on the wiki so I can help you. regards musachy On 2/9/07,

Re: Structs 2 feedback

2007-02-09 Thread Musachy Barroso
Instead of complaining I will actually do something :). Let me know where you are going to set this up on the wiki so I can help you. regards musachy On 2/9/07, Philip Luppens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I've assigned some documentation issues to myself. I'm starting this weekend on a User Guid

Re: Structs 2 feedback

2007-02-09 Thread Philip Luppens
I've assigned some documentation issues to myself. I'm starting this weekend on a User Guide (blatantly copying the structure from Struts 1 where appropriate). The CRUD tutorial from WW has been on my todo list for a long time, I'll take care of it. Phil On 2/9/07, Ted Husted <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: Structs 2 feedback

2007-02-09 Thread Ted Husted
On 2/7/07, Brian Pontarelli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 1. Arrived at the Struts homepage and Struts 2 almost looked dead. No activity since October and no news or release information. Adding some news every few weeks will help keep new comers from bailing. There is now a link to a browseable

Re: Structs 2 feedback

2007-02-09 Thread Ted Husted
Works for me. On 2/8/07, Musachy Barroso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Because I'm artistically challenged I got help from a friend of mine to get mockup done, check it out here: http://picasaweb.google.com/musachy/ that's an idea of what I had in mind. thanks Vlad! musachy ---

Re: Structs 2 feedback

2007-02-08 Thread Ted Husted
On 2/8/07, Brian Pontarelli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: H... This is a tough one, but I would think that a version scheme change discussion might be in order. It might be fruitless, but I think that type of versioning is pretty rough. Plus, there are nearly zero docs anywhere about it, not jus

Re: Structs 2 feedback

2007-02-08 Thread Brian Pontarelli
Me likey! -bp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That is actually a big improvement over the current homepage. +1!!! -Original Message- From: Musachy Barroso [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2007 11:07 AM To: Struts Developers List Subject: Re: Structs 2 feedback

Re: Structs 2 feedback

2007-02-08 Thread Brian Pontarelli
1. Arrived at the Struts homepage and Struts 2 almost looked dead. No activity since October and no news or release information. Adding some news every few weeks will help keep new comers from bailing. We should probably look at automating the website deployment from SVN. This would allow u

Re: Structs 2 feedback

2007-02-08 Thread Brian Pontarelli
Sounds like you need AppFuse! http://appfuse.org/display/APF/Using+Struts+2 Sorry - I couldn't resist. ;-) Haha! I'm looking into AppFuse 2 for bootstrapping. I'll let you know how it goes. :) -bp PS If I recall correctly, Jay says that we are neighbors now. I'm over in RedLeaf. We sho

RE: Structs 2 feedback

2007-02-08 Thread Chris.Mathews
That is actually a big improvement over the current homepage. +1!!! -Original Message- From: Musachy Barroso [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2007 11:07 AM To: Struts Developers List Subject: Re: Structs 2 feedback Because I'm artistically challenged I got

Re: Structs 2 feedback

2007-02-08 Thread Musachy Barroso
Because I'm artistically challenged I got help from a friend of mine to get mockup done, check it out here: http://picasaweb.google.com/musachy/ that's an idea of what I had in mind. thanks Vlad! musachy On 2/8/07, Musachy Barroso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Phil is right, what I meant with "

Re: Structs 2 feedback

2007-02-08 Thread Musachy Barroso
Phil is right, what I meant with "open to anyone", was, open to anyone that wants to help :). I think some of the most important things for new users are: 1. Features List These are on the home page, quite visible, no problem. 2. Getting started The whole difference between "Tutorial" and "Guid

Re: Structs 2 feedback

2007-02-08 Thread Philip Luppens
The wiki's not open to anyone - you need the karma ;-) But you're right, Musachy. The docs might indeed be geared towards experienced developers rather than newcomers. I've heard from quite a few they like the S1 user documentation - maybe we can copy its structure ? I'm all for it [1]. Cheers,

Re: Structs 2 feedback

2007-02-08 Thread Don Brown
Brian, thank you very much for this constructive feedback. It can be confusing to new users to try to nagivate a project that a) hasn't released a GA quality release and b) is the product of a merger. You raise very important issues that we need to address. I'll discuss possible solutions on

Re: Structs 2 feedback

2007-02-07 Thread mraible
Brian Pontarelli wrote: > > > Hey all. I wanted to drop the developers a few notes regarding my recent > experience with Struts2. I've been a Struts/WebWork user for quite some > time and recently attempted a stab at the Struts 2 switch because I'm > planning on using Struts 2 for building

Re: Structs 2 feedback

2007-02-07 Thread Musachy Barroso
About the documentation I'd like to point out that I had a similar experience. The wiki is great for users that already know the framework and are looking for a reference, or specific information, but for new users it is quite hard, I always found the "User Guide" on S1 quite useful. The good thin

Re: Structs 2 feedback

2007-02-07 Thread Brian Pontarelli
Looks like it could be an issue with the xwork2 2.0-beta1 JAR file from the 2.0.1 beta bundle conflicting with the nightly because there doesn't seem to be an xwork JAR in with the nightlys. Again, this is pretty cumbersome to get working because of the numerous JAR files floating around and

Re: Structs 2 feedback

2007-02-07 Thread Nate Drake
Brian Pontarelli pontarelli.com> writes: > 3. The documentation for Struts 2 contains references to zero > configuration and the web.xml configuration file also contains this > stuff. There are also a number of references to all the annotations. > These are not available in the 2.0.1BETA JAR f