Re: Struts Wiki Etiquette: Niall's Help

2004-09-26 Thread Craig McClanahan
On Fri, 24 Sep 2004 11:37:00 -0700, Martin Cooper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > You should realise that no wiki page is owned by any one person more > than any other, regardless of who creates it. Once created, it is > community owned, and any member of the community is free to add their > changes i

Re: Struts Wiki Etiquette: Niall's Help

2004-09-24 Thread Michael McGrady
Deadman, Hal wrote: Outmoded and vastly inferior? Are we are talking about the "problem" of multiple buttons on a form? I have worked on several Struts based web-apps over the last few years and when I encounter this situation I think I just write an "if" statement. I suppose that technique is "vas

RE: Struts Wiki Etiquette: Niall's Help

2004-09-24 Thread Steve Raeburn
Comments inline... > -Original Message- > From: Michael McGrady [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: September 24, 2004 11:48 AM > To: Struts Developers List > Subject: Re: Struts Wiki Etiquette: Niall's Help > > > Hello, Steve, > > Thank you for your

Re: Struts Wiki Etiquette: Niall's Help

2004-09-24 Thread Michael McGrady
Thanks, Martin. Maybe a wiki is not the place to present this idea. Maybe I should just take it down and take it elsewhere. I have to admit that I thought there woudl be more standards to adding to the page. I probably will take this elsewhere and make a link. Michael McGrady P.S. Okay,

Re: Struts Wiki Etiquette: Niall's Help

2004-09-24 Thread Michael McGrady
Original Message- From: Michael McGrady [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: September 24, 2004 10:51 AM To: Struts Developers List Subject: Re: Struts Wiki Etiquette: Niall's Help Thanks for this response, Matt. I understand your thinking. However, the difficulty is that you don't know

Re: Struts Wiki Etiquette: Niall's Help

2004-09-24 Thread Michael McGrady
PROTECTED] Sent: September 24, 2004 10:51 AM To: Struts Developers List Subject: Re: Struts Wiki Etiquette: Niall's Help Thanks for this response, Matt. I understand your thinking. However, the difficulty is that you don't know where I am going with this. No way you could, of course, b

RE: Struts Wiki Etiquette: Niall's Help

2004-09-24 Thread Steve Raeburn
ce, tone down the opinions (about people) and focus on the code and I'm sure we'll all get along fine. Steve -Original Message- From: Michael McGrady [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: September 24, 2004 11:09 AM To: Struts Developers List Subject: Re: Struts Wiki Etiquette: Niall

Re: Struts Wiki Etiquette: Niall's Help

2004-09-24 Thread Martin Cooper
You should realise that no wiki page is owned by any one person more than any other, regardless of who creates it. Once created, it is community owned, and any member of the community is free to add their changes in whatever form they feel appropriate. If you want to control the content and format

Re: Struts Wiki Etiquette: Niall's Help

2004-09-24 Thread Michael McGrady
Thanks for your warning, Steve. I will certainly do everything to remain courteous. If I fail, I will be more disappointed than anyone else. I note, Steve, that you call my comments "childish" and implied that they were neither "sensible" nor "professional" whereas I said that someone's grasp

Re: Struts Wiki Etiquette: Niall's Help

2004-09-24 Thread Paul Speed
" -Original Message- From: Michael McGrady [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 24, 2004 12:05 PM To: Struts Developers List Subject: Re: Struts Wiki Etiquette: Niall's Help The only reference to you, Niall, so far as I remember, was to credit your work as yours. I did no

Re: Struts Wiki Etiquette: Niall's Help

2004-09-24 Thread Matt Bathje
Some comments and questions inline... Michael McGrady wrote: Thanks for your input, Matt. There is an end to the page and a place there for alternative viewpoints. Normally one person stops talking before the other starts. There is also the rest of the wiki where other pages can be placed. Y

RE: Struts Wiki Etiquette: Niall's Help

2004-09-24 Thread Deadman, Hal
to be suspect and you seem to have no sense of the look and feel of this wiki page." "Your efforts just muddy it up in sense and look." -Original Message- From: Michael McGrady [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 24, 2004 12:05 PM To: Struts Developers List Su

Re: Struts Wiki Etiquette: Niall's Help

2004-09-24 Thread Wendy Smoak
From: "Michael McGrady" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > I don't want to even try to seek the solution you offer, Matt. It may > be a good solution, but it ends up doing something I am not trying to > do. I am not trying to present Niall's ideas. I am trying to present > mine. My idea are very involved an

RE: Struts Wiki Etiquette: Niall's Help

2004-09-24 Thread Steve Raeburn
So organize your ideas offline then, when you are ready, publish them. -Original Message- From: Michael McGrady [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: September 24, 2004 10:53 AM To: Struts Developers List Subject: Re: Struts Wiki Etiquette: Niall's Help I should tell you, Matt, that b

RE: Struts Wiki Etiquette: Niall's Help

2004-09-24 Thread Steve Raeburn
al Message- From: Michael McGrady [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: September 24, 2004 10:51 AM To: Struts Developers List Subject: Re: Struts Wiki Etiquette: Niall's Help Thanks for this response, Matt. I understand your thinking. However, the difficulty is that you don't know where I am

Re: Struts Wiki Etiquette: Niall's Help

2004-09-24 Thread Michael McGrady
d why you constantly resort to personal attacks on me - I haven't done that to you. For example in this message why do you say "without much knowledge of this area" - whether its true or not, its unecessary and rude. Niall - Original Message - From: "Michael McGrady"

RE: Struts Wiki Etiquette: Niall's Help

2004-09-24 Thread Steve Raeburn
Michael, You seem hell bent on taking personal offence at anything and anybody that disagrees with you. *I* have interpreted your comments as being personally directed at Niall (and others). It's possible that you genuinely did not mean to cause offence - it's very difficult to communicate effect

Re: Struts Wiki Etiquette: Niall's Help

2004-09-24 Thread Michael McGrady
is message why do you say "without much knowledge of this area" - whether its true or not, its unecessary and rude. Niall ----- Original Message - From: "Michael McGrady" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Struts Developers List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent:

Re: Struts Wiki Etiquette: Niall's Help

2004-09-24 Thread Matt Bathje
I also don't understand why you constantly resort to personal attacks on me - I haven't done that to you. For example in this message why do you say "without much knowledge of this area" - whether its true or not, its unecessary and rude. Niall ----- Original Message -

Re: Struts Wiki Etiquette: Niall's Help

2004-09-24 Thread Michael McGrady
onal attacks on me - I haven't done that to you. For example in this message why do you say "without much knowledge of this area" - whether its true or not, its unecessary and rude. Niall - Original Message - From: "Michael McGrady" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> T

Re: Struts Wiki Etiquette: Niall's Help

2004-09-24 Thread Michael McGrady
y and rude. Niall - Original Message - From: "Michael McGrady" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Struts Developers List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, September 24, 2004 3:16 PM Subject: Struts Wiki Etiquette: Niall's Help I am trying to make the wiki on

Re: Struts Wiki Etiquette: Niall's Help

2004-09-24 Thread Matt Bathje
, its unecessary and rude. Niall - Original Message - From: "Michael McGrady" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Struts Developers List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, September 24, 2004 3:16 PM Subject: Struts Wiki Etiquette: Niall's Help I am trying to make

Re: Struts Wiki Etiquette: Niall's Help

2004-09-24 Thread Michael McGrady
From: "Michael McGrady" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Struts Developers List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, September 24, 2004 3:16 PM Subject: Struts Wiki Etiquette: Niall's Help I am trying to make the wiki on multiple buttons readable, despite being detailed and

Re: Struts Wiki Etiquette: Niall's Help

2004-09-24 Thread Niall Pemberton
example in this message why do you say "without much knowledge of this area" - whether its true or not, its unecessary and rude. Niall - Original Message - From: "Michael McGrady" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Struts Developers List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Struts Wiki Etiquette: Niall's Help

2004-09-24 Thread Michael McGrady
I am trying to make the wiki on multiple buttons readable, despite being detailed and long. I have had to spend quite a bit of time doing that because Niall comes behind me and changes things in ways that effectively confuses the issue. I would contact him directly on this, but he has asked m