Re: Website Updates

2005-09-06 Thread Wendy Smoak
From: "Ted Husted" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Do we expect to have PDF versions of the documentation? It's listed on the Website conversion, * http://wiki.apache.org/struts/StrutsWebsiteConversion and I wondered if anyone was working on it, or had reason to be optimistic :) Yes. I filed a bug again

Re: Website Updates

2005-09-06 Thread Christian Meder
On Tue, 2005-09-06 at 16:49 -0400, Ted Husted wrote: > On 9/6/05, Christian Meder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > How is "Struts Classic" related to this whole discussion ? > > > > IMHO Struts Classic describes the core component best. At least that's > > the part with which I started doing Java we

Re: Website Updates

2005-09-06 Thread Ted Husted
Do we expect to have PDF versions of the documentation? It's listed on the Website conversion, * http://wiki.apache.org/struts/StrutsWebsiteConversion and I wondered if anyone was working on it, or had reason to be optimistic :) -Ted. -

Re: Website Updates

2005-09-06 Thread Ted Husted
On 9/6/05, Christian Meder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > How is "Struts Classic" related to this whole discussion ? > > IMHO Struts Classic describes the core component best. At least that's > the part with which I started doing Java web application development 4 > years ago so it's definitely the

Re: Website Updates

2005-09-06 Thread Wendy Smoak
From: "Wendy Smoak" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Where do we stand on moving the rest of the nightly builds to Maven? Standalone Tiles has a good Maven build, I looked again, and Maven is only building tiles-core.jar for Tiles, not the documentation/example webapp. So it's in the same situation as

Re: Website Updates

2005-09-06 Thread Christian Meder
On Mon, 2005-09-05 at 17:10 -0400, Ted Husted wrote: > Here's an odd idea: What if we called Struts "Core", Struts "Config" instead? > > After all, the purpose of the codebase is to realize the struts-config > XML file. What goes into Struts "Core" might be ambiguous, but what > goes inot Struts C

Re: Website Updates

2005-09-06 Thread Ted Husted
On 9/5/05, Wendy Smoak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What needs to be done with Taglibs? You added it to the Wiki, but there's > nothing under site/xdocs for it. I'm fairly sure that the files under > taglib/doc can be deleted-- I used them to create the JSP 1.2 TLDs that now > live in taglib/src/

Re: Website Updates

2005-09-05 Thread Martin Cooper
On 9/5/05, Joe Germuska <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Ted: > > I hear what you're saying, but I think that "struts-core" is the most > accurate label for the things included in that artifact. > Conceptually, it is "Struts 1.x core", but that's too verbose. > > I'm for sticking with "core". I'

Re: Website Updates

2005-09-05 Thread Wendy Smoak
From: "Ted Husted" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I really must commend Wendy and James for the excellent work on the new Struts build. It's working well, and I'm having fun with it. :) Thanks for taking on the rewrites and the final reorganization... it's been fun seeing it all come together this weeke

Re: Website Updates

2005-09-05 Thread Wendy Smoak
From: "Ted Husted" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Where do we stand on moving the rest of the nightly builds to Maven? Can we assume that Shale, Struts Faces, and Standalone Tiles (currently in the Sandbox) will all be built by Maven, and remove the dichotomy on the Acquiring page? Standalone Tiles has

Re: Website Updates

2005-09-05 Thread Joe Germuska
Ted: I hear what you're saying, but I think that "struts-core" is the most accurate label for the things included in that artifact. Conceptually, it is "Struts 1.x core", but that's too verbose. I'm for sticking with "core". Joe The moniker "Core" did make a lot of sense when we were thin

Re: Website Updates

2005-09-05 Thread Wendy Smoak
From: "Ted Husted" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> And, we do have to call it something. We're having great success with Maven, and Maven expects artifacts to have names. The closest we could come to a no-name artifact would be struts-struts-1.3.0 -- which is too odd, even for me :) Maven doesn't care wha

Re: Website Updates

2005-09-05 Thread Frank W. Zammetti
Ted Husted wrote: The moniker "Core" did make a lot of sense when we were thinking that the other Struts subprojects would depend on Core. But, we dismissed that idea when we decided to host Shale. Now, should we decide to host Struts Ti one day, we would have two Java subprojects not dependant o

Re: Website Updates

2005-09-05 Thread Ted Husted
On 9/5/05, Frank W. Zammetti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I agree, config is a little too left-field (even though it does make > sense as Ted describes). > > I'm not actually too thrilled with even saying "core" frankly... I would > be more in favor of simply calling core "Struts" and all the > su

Re: Website Updates

2005-09-05 Thread Ted Husted
Where do we stand on moving the rest of the nightly builds to Maven? Can we assume that Shale, Struts Faces, and Standalone Tiles (currently in the Sandbox) will all be built by Maven, and remove the dichotomy on the Acquiring page? -T. --

Re: Website Updates

2005-09-05 Thread Frank W. Zammetti
I agree, config is a little too left-field (even though it does make sense as Ted describes). I'm not actually too thrilled with even saying "core" frankly... I would be more in favor of simply calling core "Struts" and all the sub-projects "Struts-xxx". I understand the reasoning of adding c

Re: Website Updates

2005-09-05 Thread James Mitchell
You are right, that seems odd. I really like 'core' since it seems (to me anyway) to encapsulate the 'core' of the framework, but I'm not married to it, and I know how (sometimes) being too close to something makes it harder to see the 'forrest' ;) Your thoughts? -- James Mitchell Softw

Re: Website Updates

2005-09-05 Thread Ted Husted
Here's an odd idea: What if we called Struts "Core", Struts "Config" instead? After all, the purpose of the codebase is to realize the struts-config XML file. What goes into Struts "Core" might be ambiguous, but what goes inot Struts Config is defined, by, well, the struts-config XML declaration.

Re: Website Updates

2005-09-05 Thread James Mitchell
Hey that look great! (I only wish I had more time to help) Keep up the good work! -- James Mitchell Software Engineer / Open Source Evangelist Consulting / Mentoring / Freelance EdgeTech, Inc. http://www.edgetechservices.net/ 678.910.8017 AIM: jmitchtx Yahoo: jmitchtx MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Website Updates

2005-09-05 Thread Ted Husted
In between coping with a crashed server on my local network, I've started to make the "final" round of changes on the new website. I'll be committing these as I go along, but I thought it appropriate to post the reworked text for the Site and Core homepages directly to the list. We had talked abou