On May 15, 2012 6:04 PM, "Hyrum K Wright" wrote:
>...
> This research comes as a result of the final test failures on the
> ev2-export branch for commit: tree conflicts tests 4 and 8. Both of
> these set up the tree conflict scenario, and in doing so occasionally
> expect an out-of-date error, wh
On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 11:37 AM, wrote:
> Author: philip
> Date: Wed May 16 15:37:10 2012
> New Revision: 1339233
>
> URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?rev=1339233&view=rev
> Log:
> Apache puts extra newlines in responses when built with AP_DEBUG
> so remove these from some error messages. Fix
On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 7:29 PM, Greg Stein wrote:
> Excellent. And that told me what I needed to know. I believe it is now
> fixed in r1339425. Give it a whirl, please.
Fix confirmed.
--
Thanks
Mark Phippard
http://markphip.blogspot.com/
On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 6:34 PM, Mark Phippard wrote:
> On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 5:55 PM, Greg Stein wrote:
>> On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 11:45 AM, Mark Phippard wrote:
>>> I cannot recreate this with the Apache repository, but with a local
>>> 1.7.5 server and current trunk client I get this:
>>>
>
On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 5:55 PM, Greg Stein wrote:
> On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 11:45 AM, Mark Phippard wrote:
>> I cannot recreate this with the Apache repository, but with a local
>> 1.7.5 server and current trunk client I get this:
>>
>> $ svn co http://cu121.cloud.sp.collab.net/svn/desktop deskt
On May 16, 2012 6:04 PM, "Ivan Zhakov" wrote:
>
> On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 1:55 AM, Greg Stein wrote:
> > On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 11:45 AM, Mark Phippard
wrote:
> >> I cannot recreate this with the Apache repository, but with a local
> >> 1.7.5 server and current trunk client I get this:
> >>
> >
On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 1:55 AM, Greg Stein wrote:
> On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 11:45 AM, Mark Phippard wrote:
>> I cannot recreate this with the Apache repository, but with a local
>> 1.7.5 server and current trunk client I get this:
>>
>> $ svn co http://cu121.cloud.sp.collab.net/svn/desktop deskt
On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 11:45 AM, Mark Phippard wrote:
> I cannot recreate this with the Apache repository, but with a local
> 1.7.5 server and current trunk client I get this:
>
> $ svn co http://cu121.cloud.sp.collab.net/svn/desktop desktop
> --username=markphip --depth=immediates
> subversion/s
On May 16, 2012 4:06 PM, "Mark Phippard" wrote:
>
> On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 4:04 PM, Greg Stein wrote:
> >
> > On May 16, 2012 3:00 PM, "Justin Erenkrantz"
wrote:
> >>
> >> On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 11:54 AM, Mark Phippard
> >> wrote:
> >> > NOTE the length stuff that happened in the middle of th
On 05/16/2012 11:15 AM, Justin Erenkrantz wrote:
On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 11:10 AM, Mark Phippard wrote:
I found another tool that worked ( I think I just needed to run
wireshark as root), however this tool and tcpdump both do not give
what I want. I am going through a VPN and it looks like all
On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 4:12 PM, Mark Phippard wrote:
> On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 4:06 PM, Mark Phippard wrote:
>
>> I do not think the server sent garbage. It sent a chunked response
>> where the entire OPTIONS response did not come in one packet. When
>> this happens with the new code it seems
On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 4:06 PM, Mark Phippard wrote:
> I do not think the server sent garbage. It sent a chunked response
> where the entire OPTIONS response did not come in one packet. When
> this happens with the new code it seems to break.
>
> As Justin said, the date/time was simply insert
On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 4:04 PM, Greg Stein wrote:
>
> On May 16, 2012 3:00 PM, "Justin Erenkrantz" wrote:
>>
>> On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 11:54 AM, Mark Phippard
>> wrote:
>> > NOTE the length stuff that happened in the middle of the response?
>>
>> Yah, that'd be a CDATA spanning TCP packets as
On May 16, 2012 3:00 PM, "Justin Erenkrantz" wrote:
>
> On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 11:54 AM, Mark Phippard
wrote:
> > NOTE the length stuff that happened in the middle of the response?
>
> Yah, that'd be a CDATA spanning TCP packets as socat puts in
> timestamps when a new packet arrives.
>
> So, ya
Justin Erenkrantz writes:
> On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 11:59 AM, Philip Martin
> wrote:
>> Those look like the numbers with mod-deflate in the path. Although
>> mod-deflate reduces the traffic it pushes up the server CPU because serf
>> is pushing so much more data through the compressor. It's no
Philip Martin wrote on Wed, May 16, 2012 at 19:59:15 +0100:
> Justin Erenkrantz writes:
>
> > On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 11:17 AM, Daniel Shahaf wrote:
> >> Perhaps I wasn't clear. The traffic using ra_serf is 2.2 times as much
> >> as using ra_neon; see the (currently) last comment on the issue P
Philip Martin writes:
> Mark Phippard writes:
>
>> Greg is working on. I will try Philip's suggestion but assume I need
>> to read up on what he suggested so that I understand what I need to
>> do.
>
> Something like this:
>
> $ socat -v TCP4-LISTEN:8080,reuseaddr,fork TCP4:svn.apache.org:http
On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 11:59 AM, Philip Martin
wrote:
> Those look like the numbers with mod-deflate in the path. Although
> mod-deflate reduces the traffic it pushes up the server CPU because serf
> is pushing so much more data through the compressor. It's not much of a
> selling point that se
On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 11:54 AM, Mark Phippard wrote:
> NOTE the length stuff that happened in the middle of the response?
Yah, that'd be a CDATA spanning TCP packets as socat puts in
timestamps when a new packet arrives.
So, yah, Greg's the most recent culprit in that space. =P -- justin
Justin Erenkrantz writes:
> On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 11:17 AM, Daniel Shahaf wrote:
>> Perhaps I wasn't clear. The traffic using ra_serf is 2.2 times as much
>> as using ra_neon; see the (currently) last comment on the issue Philip
>> links to.
>
> I definitely don't see that locally - I only se
Philip Martin wrote on Wed, May 16, 2012 at 19:55:41 +0100:
> Mark Phippard writes:
>
> > Greg is working on. I will try Philip's suggestion but assume I need
> > to read up on what he suggested so that I understand what I need to
> > do.
>
> Something like this:
>
> $ socat -v TCP4-LISTEN:808
Mark Phippard writes:
> Greg is working on. I will try Philip's suggestion but assume I need
> to read up on what he suggested so that I understand what I need to
> do.
Something like this:
$ socat -v TCP4-LISTEN:8080,reuseaddr,fork TCP4:svn.apache.org:http
then in another window something li
Justin helped my get socat working on IRC. For archives sake, I
basically am using it as a proxy. I added localhost:8080 as my proxy
in servers and then it worked great.
Here is the response it logs in the failed request:
/svn/de< 2012/05/16 14:45:54.190315
length=74 from=1852 to=1925
sktop/
[Greg Stein]
> A following question asks about API compatibility. I believe we can
> simply sub ra_serf into any loader/query for ra_neon. Hard linkage to
> the ra_neon library may also need a solution (it becomes a shim?).
I was concerned with this exact issue when libsvn_ra_dav was renamed to
l
On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 2:30 PM, Justin Erenkrantz
wrote:
> On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 11:29 AM, Mark Phippard wrote:
>> Obviously I am not understanding how to use this tool.
>
> Ahh...you then run tcpdump against localhost port 8080 (probably
> requiring interface lo0). socat just gets you around
On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 11:29 AM, Mark Phippard wrote:
> Obviously I am not understanding how to use this tool.
Ahh...you then run tcpdump against localhost port 8080 (probably
requiring interface lo0). socat just gets you around the VPN issue.
-- justin
On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 2:10 PM, Philip Martin
wrote:
> Justin Erenkrantz writes:
>
>> On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 10:55 AM, Mark Phippard wrote:
>>> I am trying Wireshark but it says I do not have any interfaces it can
>>> use. I am on a Macbook Air so maybe it needs an Ethernet adapter.
>>> Looki
On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 11:17 AM, Ivan Zhakov wrote:
> It seems to be a good thing to try to implement on Hackathon in Berlin.
>
> I'm often switching between different branches and I'll benefit a lot
> if this operation will just take one REPORT request, instead of many
> PROPFINDs for each added
On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 11:17 AM, Daniel Shahaf wrote:
> Perhaps I wasn't clear. The traffic using ra_serf is 2.2 times as much
> as using ra_neon; see the (currently) last comment on the issue Philip
> links to.
I definitely don't see that locally - I only see about a 20-25% gap -
which from lo
On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 2:15 PM, Justin Erenkrantz
wrote:
> On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 11:10 AM, Mark Phippard wrote:
>> I found another tool that worked ( I think I just needed to run
>> wireshark as root), however this tool and tcpdump both do not give
>> what I want. I am going through a VPN and
Justin Erenkrantz writes:
> Philip's trick to redirect the traffic to local port 8080 via socat
> should let you see what your client is sending.
And receiving.
--
uberSVN: Apache Subversion Made Easy
http://www.uberSVN.com
On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 5:41 PM, C. Michael Pilato wrote:
> On 05/10/2012 06:21 AM, Ivan Zhakov wrote:
>> It seems that ra_serf unconditionally retrieves properties using
>> PROPFIND for *all* added files:
>
> Yup, that's what I said. :-)
>
>> subversion\libsvn_ra_serf\update.c:1633 (start_report
Justin Erenkrantz wrote on Wed, May 16, 2012 at 11:13:16 -0700:
> On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 10:48 AM, Daniel Shahaf wrote:
> > Philip Martin wrote on Wed, May 16, 2012 at 18:39:37 +0100:
> >> The issue that worries me the most is the traffic issue:
> >>
> >> http://subversion.tigris.org/issues/show_
On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 11:10 AM, Mark Phippard wrote:
> I found another tool that worked ( I think I just needed to run
> wireshark as root), however this tool and tcpdump both do not give
> what I want. I am going through a VPN and it looks like all the
> packets are encrypted. The protocol fo
On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 10:48 AM, Daniel Shahaf wrote:
> Philip Martin wrote on Wed, May 16, 2012 at 18:39:37 +0100:
>> The issue that worries me the most is the traffic issue:
>>
>> http://subversion.tigris.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=3980
>
> Your recent figures on that issue show a +122% increas
On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 1:57 PM, Justin Erenkrantz
wrote:
> On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 10:55 AM, Mark Phippard wrote:
>> I am trying Wireshark but it says I do not have any interfaces it can
>> use. I am on a Macbook Air so maybe it needs an Ethernet adapter.
>> Looking for other mac capture tools
Justin Erenkrantz writes:
> On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 10:55 AM, Mark Phippard wrote:
>> I am trying Wireshark but it says I do not have any interfaces it can
>> use. I am on a Macbook Air so maybe it needs an Ethernet adapter.
>> Looking for other mac capture tools right now.
>
> As root, use:
>
On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 10:55 AM, Mark Phippard wrote:
> I am trying Wireshark but it says I do not have any interfaces it can
> use. I am on a Macbook Air so maybe it needs an Ethernet adapter.
> Looking for other mac capture tools right now.
As root, use:
# tcpdump -w /tmp/mycapture.dump -i e
On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 1:50 PM, Justin Erenkrantz
wrote:
> On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 8:45 AM, Mark Phippard wrote:
>> I cannot recreate this with the Apache repository, but with a local
>> 1.7.5 server and current trunk client I get this:
>
> I tried with a local 1.7.5 server and can't reproduce t
On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 8:45 AM, Mark Phippard wrote:
> I cannot recreate this with the Apache repository, but with a local
> 1.7.5 server and current trunk client I get this:
I tried with a local 1.7.5 server and can't reproduce this. It looks
like the OPTIONS request is failing (note the 401 e
Philip Martin wrote on Wed, May 16, 2012 at 18:39:37 +0100:
> The issue that worries me the most is the traffic issue:
>
> http://subversion.tigris.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=3980
Your recent figures on that issue show a +122% increase in traffic. Do
we know what the worst case increase is? For
Greg Stein writes:
> We have some issues filed against ra_serf. Which of them should be
> considered as blockers?
I still use neon because it's inconvenient that serf hangs every now and
then over https:
http://subversion.tigris.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=3981
The issue that worries me the mos
On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 3:46 AM, Greg Stein wrote:
> Short query: is this possible?
Given that the last major blocker/complaint that I was aware of had to
do with the C-L/chunking on the request side and that's been resolved
now in trunk (serf + svn), I think it's possible without any
user-visibl
On 05/16/2012 12:57 PM, Daniel Shahaf wrote:
> cmpil...@apache.org wrote on Wed, May 16, 2012 at 16:44:47 -:
>> Author: cmpilato
>> Date: Wed May 16 16:44:47 2012
>> New Revision: 1339262
>>
>> URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?rev=1339262&view=rev
>> Log:
>> Finish issue #3308 ("Promote 'svnmu
cmpil...@apache.org wrote on Wed, May 16, 2012 at 16:44:47 -:
> Author: cmpilato
> Date: Wed May 16 16:44:47 2012
> New Revision: 1339262
>
> URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?rev=1339262&view=rev
> Log:
> Finish issue #3308 ("Promote 'svnmucc' tool (or functionality) into a
> fully supported
Kenneth Miles writes:
> On 04/05/12 20:09, Philip Martin wrote:
>> Kenneth Miles writes:
>>
>>
I'm not sure if a specific revision is causing the issue. But it
always fails replaying on a certain revision number as seen in the
stack trace.
It is definitely opening mu
I cannot recreate this with the Apache repository, but with a local
1.7.5 server and current trunk client I get this:
$ svn co http://cu121.cloud.sp.collab.net/svn/desktop desktop
--username=markphip --depth=immediates
subversion/svn/checkout-cmd.c:168: (apr_err=130003)
subversion/libsvn_client/ch
On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 02:52:46PM +, Markus Schaber wrote:
> Hmm, this may lead to _very_ special strategies implemented in the core.
>
> Like when a CoDeSys Device plugged into a Slot conflicts, and a neighbor slot
> is empty.
>
> On the SVN Working copy, this looks like (irrelevant files
Hi, Stefan,
Von: Stefan Sperling [mailto:s...@elego.de]
>
> On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 02:52:06PM +0100, Julian Foad wrote:
> > OK, I appreciate that issue. I see two ways the client lib can help:
> >
> > 1. providing a set of client-lib APIs to perform the most commonly
> > wanted resolutions;
> >
On 05/16/2012 10:13 AM, Greg Stein wrote:
> On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 9:43 AM, C. Michael Pilato
> wrote:
>> but: How hard would it be to temporarily maintain two commit paths -- one
>> that drives an Ev2 editor, and one that drives Ev1? The call to
>> svn_ra_get_commit_editorN() would return NOT
On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 9:46 AM, Ivan Zhakov wrote:
> On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 5:15 PM, C. Michael Pilato
> wrote:
>> On 05/16/2012 06:46 AM, Greg Stein wrote:
>>> Short query: is this possible?
>>
>> I know of no convincing reason why we cannot someday delete libsvn_ra_neon.
>> I am very much i
On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 02:52:06PM +0100, Julian Foad wrote:
> OK, I appreciate that issue. I see two ways the client lib can help:
>
> 1. providing a set of client-lib APIs to perform the most commonly wanted
> resolutions;
>
> 2. providing a set of (APIs? comments?) that suggest what set of p
On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 9:43 AM, C. Michael Pilato wrote:
> On 05/16/2012 09:33 AM, Hyrum K Wright wrote:
>> On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 8:15 AM, C. Michael Pilato
>> wrote:
>>> ...
>>> What to do about the commit Ev2 stuff? Perhaps you or Hyrum can help us
>>> understand the scope of the performan
- Original Message -
> From: Stefan Sperling
> To: Julian Foad
> Cc: "dev@subversion.apache.org" ; Bert Huijben
>
> Sent: Wednesday, 16 May 2012, 14:07
> Subject: Re: new conflict callback API
>
> On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 01:55:01PM +0100, Julian Foad wrote:
>> I think the way to a
On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 8:55 AM, Julian Foad wrote:
> Stefan Sperling wrote:
>
>> Bert Huijben wrote:
>>> Note that the simple view of this model doesn't match GUI clients
>>> expectations.
>>>
>>> GUI's can stay inside a callback and keep the gui functional for other
>>> operations, so callba
On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 5:15 PM, C. Michael Pilato wrote:
> On 05/16/2012 06:46 AM, Greg Stein wrote:
>> Short query: is this possible?
>
> I know of no convincing reason why we cannot someday delete libsvn_ra_neon.
> I am very much in favor of getting back to a single DAV provider. I
> believe
On 05/16/2012 09:33 AM, Hyrum K Wright wrote:
> On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 8:15 AM, C. Michael Pilato
> wrote:
>> ...
>> What to do about the commit Ev2 stuff? Perhaps you or Hyrum can help us
>> understand the scope of the performance cost paid by employing editor shims?
>
> The primary performan
Hi,
Von: Julian Foad [mailto:julianf...@btopenworld.com]
> Stefan Sperling wrote:
> > Bert Huijben wrote:
> > So you mean that instead of calling into a GUI client via a set of
> > callbacks, the client library should provide several API functions
> > that GUI clients can use to gather conflict in
On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 8:15 AM, C. Michael Pilato wrote:
>...
> What to do about the commit Ev2 stuff? Perhaps you or Hyrum can help us
> understand the scope of the performance cost paid by employing editor shims?
The primary performance cost paid by Ev2 is that the entire edit is
queued up du
On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 9:25 AM, Greg Stein wrote:
> [avoiding responding, in favor of collecting feedback, but one item...]
>
> On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 9:15 AM, C. Michael Pilato
> wrote:
>>...
>> Having not reviewed the issues myself, I can only submit the following
>> litmus test of ra_serf r
On 05/15/2012 03:50 PM, Daniel Shahaf wrote:
>> }
>> }
>>
>> - /* Handle property modifications. */
>>if (! do_delete || do_add)
>> {
>> - if (change->prop_mod)
>> + /* Handle property modifications.
>> +
>> + Note that this needs to happen in the "copy f
[avoiding responding, in favor of collecting feedback, but one item...]
On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 9:15 AM, C. Michael Pilato wrote:
>...
> Having not reviewed the issues myself, I can only submit the following
> litmus test of ra_serf readiness: can it do everything that our current
> user base ex
On 05/16/2012 06:46 AM, Greg Stein wrote:
> Short query: is this possible?
I know of no convincing reason why we cannot someday delete libsvn_ra_neon.
I am very much in favor of getting back to a single DAV provider. I
believe that ra_serf offers us the best path forward along those lines, not
b
On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 01:55:01PM +0100, Julian Foad wrote:
> I think the way to avoid "offering options the client library is not prepared
> to handle" is that the application should resolve a conflict by calling a
> series of (mostly) normal client operations, rather than by telling the
> cli
Stefan Sperling wrote:
> Bert Huijben wrote:
>> Note that the simple view of this model doesn't match GUI clients
>> expectations.
>>
>> GUI's can stay inside a callback and keep the gui functional for other
>> operations, so callbacks can only be handled by application-modal dialogs
>> (You
On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 01:59:43PM +0200, Bert Huijben wrote:
> Note that the simple view of this model doesn't match GUI clients
> expectations.
>
> GUI's can stay inside a callback and keep the gui functional for other
> operations, so callbacks can only be handled by application-modal dialogs
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Stefan Sperling [mailto:s...@elego.de]
> Sent: woensdag 16 mei 2012 13:25
> To: dev@subversion.apache.org
> Subject: RFC: new conflict callback API
>
> The current conflict callback API passes a svn_wc_conflict_description2_t
> struct to the callback, and all
The current conflict callback API passes a svn_wc_conflict_description2_t
struct to the callback, and allows the callback to freely return any
possible value of svn_wc_conflict_choice_t as a result.
This works fine for text and prop conflicts, which is what this API was
designed for. However, if w
Short query: is this possible?
Long query:
Hyrum has been doing some heavy lifting on moving our code to Ev2 for
commits. That work can be merged soonish, but a strong argument can be made
for "only when all RA providers have an Ev2 commit editor" (because
otherwise poor-perf shims are used). ra_
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