Re: Proposal for reducing Subversion's lengthy (and unpredictable) release cycles.

2013-06-17 Thread Andy Singleton
o want to think about the possibility that a release would not come from trunk. Maybe a smaller group of contributors can prepare something for release on a branch. In the very centralized development process that I see, the core maintainers are taking a lot of pressure in the ramp up to a release. This could be distributed. It's just an idea. It works for us. -- Andy Singleton Founder/CEO, Assembla Online: http://www.assembla.com Phone: 781-328-2241 Skype: andysingleton

Re: Symmetric Merge -- Algorithm

2012-04-17 Thread Andy Singleton
ypicks? This will give us a easy-to-use merge which halts if it finds cherrypicks or subtree merginfo, and which could be confused if there are merges through a third branch. However, it will be a nice improvement of the typical case where you are moving things between trunk and a feature branch. -- Andy Singleton Assembla

Re: Symmetric Merge -- Algorithm

2012-04-17 Thread Andy Singleton
that if you are trying to cram everything into one merge command. On 4/17/2012 12:19 PM, Paul Burba wrote: On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 11:52 AM, Andy Singleton wrote: On 4/17/2012 11:38 AM, Paul Burba wrote: On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 12:25 PM, Julian Foad wrote: I have written out how I think a lar

Re: Symmetric Merge -- Algorithm

2012-04-17 Thread Andy Singleton
quot;. People plug in new ones when they need new ones. That would work for subversion. On 4/17/2012 2:29 PM, Branko Čibej wrote: On 17.04.2012 18:40, Andy Singleton wrote: It sounds like there is a clear choice for the first release of Julian's Symmetric Merge project: 1) Add "symm

Re: Merge policies

2012-04-19 Thread Andy Singleton
diate merge target: integrate A->B as rN: copy B->A_integration rN+1: merge A->A_integration rN+x: ... various changes on A_integration rN+y: merge A_integration->B rN+y+1: delete A_integration These checks become more complicated, requires naming conventions for the int

Re: [ANN] SubGit 1.0.0 is released

2012-09-20 Thread Andy Singleton
ial bounty money available for the next set of fixes to either merge or move. I'm in. I would like to be able to make a workflow recommendation that makes subversion relevant for a fast growing class of development projects. -- Andy Singleton Founder/CEO, Assembla Online: http://www.assembla.com Phone: 781-328-2241 Skype: andysingleton

It's time to fix Subversion Merge

2011-07-11 Thread Andy Singleton
remove the subtree options, and moving to the extensible merginfo format. It will be useful to get advice about this from experienced team members. -- Andy Singleton Founder/CEO, Assembla: http://www.assembla.com Phone: 781-328-2241 Skype: andysingleton

Re: It's time to fix Subversion Merge

2011-07-11 Thread Andy Singleton
think more about this case, and whether we should track individual commits that were merged. That could be an extension. On 7/11/2011 12:51 PM, C. Michael Pilato wrote: On 07/11/2011 11:46 AM, Andy Singleton wrote: Many developers are moving from Subversion to other SCM systems that have

Re: It's time to fix Subversion Merge

2011-07-11 Thread Andy Singleton
oblem with tracking new edits on the merged working copy. On 7/11/2011 2:42 PM, Daniel Shahaf wrote: Andy Singleton wrote on Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 13:57:58 -0400: Yes, the "cyclic merge" problem is a big one, and along with the tree change problem, it accounts for most of the frustrat

Re: It's time to fix Subversion Merge

2011-07-11 Thread Andy Singleton
side "copy + delete" operation. * Adding a "clone" and foreign merge operations in Web applications and clients that work with existing svn server software. -- Andy Singleton

Re: It's time to fix Subversion Merge

2011-07-12 Thread Andy Singleton
ll the same issues have to be addressed. If we can force users to do something, then I am not sure we need a new command. We can just have a way to not allow users to use the features of existing merge that we do not want them to use. The existing merge command already supports the proposed simple

Re: It's time to fix Subversion Merge

2011-07-12 Thread Andy Singleton
On 7/12/2011 11:43 AM, Stefan Sperling wrote: On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 11:29:57AM -0400, Andy Singleton wrote: If you want to keep it as a mergeable branch (clearly relevant), then maybe it's better just to add on as "svn newmerge" from the beginning. If that approach is re

Re: It's time to fix Subversion Merge

2011-07-12 Thread Andy Singleton
On 7/12/2011 11:54 AM, Mark Phippard wrote: On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 11:29 AM, Andy Singleton wrote: I don't think that we will need to force anyone to give up the old merge. If and when the newmerge is better, they will migrate on their own. I think merge is an important concern for

Re: It's time to fix Subversion Merge

2011-07-12 Thread Andy Singleton
On 7/12/2011 12:25 PM, Mark Phippard wrote: On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 12:16 PM, Andy Singleton wrote: Mark, I agree with you that the existing merge will work better if we apply some restrictions. I can see that the project is already going that way, and maybe it is good to continue in that

Re: It's time to fix Subversion Merge

2011-07-12 Thread Andy Singleton
support because you think they are not important. Users of Subversion before we had merge tracking, and users of Subversion since we have had merge tracking have made it very clear that these options are important to them. You cannot come up with a new merge design that does not a

Fixing merge - Subtree, Cyclic, and Tree Change cases

2011-07-17 Thread Andy Singleton
To start the discussion, I will refer to this blog article by Mark Phippard: http://blogs.collab.net/subversion/2008/07/subversion-merg/ I found the article to be a good overview of the issues. I think that we need help from Mark. On the other hand, I have seen that Mark sometimes makes disc

Re: Fixing merge - Subtree, Cyclic, and Tree Change cases

2011-07-18 Thread Andy Singleton
cit merges. EXPERTISE Who on this list knows enough about the core algorithm used in merge to critique these suggestions and point to places in the code or documentation? -- Andy Singleton Founder/CEO, Assembla Online: http://www.assembla.com Phone: 781-328-2241 Skype: andysingleton

Re: Fixing merge - Subtree, Cyclic, and Tree Change cases

2011-07-20 Thread Andy Singleton
e "special" re-integrate is it ensures the reintegration will not generate any merge conflicts - neither physical, nor semantic (since we assume the branch has been reviewed and tested). On Mon, 2011-07-18, Paul Burba wrote: On Sun, Jul 17, 2011, Andy Singleton wrote: [...] Ma

Re: Fixing merge - Subtree, Cyclic, and Tree Change cases

2011-07-20 Thread Andy Singleton
about the core algorithm used in merge to critique these suggestions and point to places in the code or documentation? -- Andy Singleton Founder/CEO, Assembla Online: http://www.assembla.com Phone: 781-328-2241 Skype: andysingleton

Patch to update the Binary Package download page with client-only, no-registration options

2011-11-30 Thread Andy Singleton
Here is a patch to update the Binary Package page with links to client packages. This will make it easier for users to upgrade to 1.7. This patch is an update to http://subversion.apache.org/packages.html This patch keeps the links in alphabetical order. BASIC FEATURES * No registration is r

[PATCH] RETRY: Patch to update the Binary Package download page with client-only, no-registration option

2011-12-01 Thread Andy Singleton
Here is a patch to update the Binary Package page with links to client packages. This will make it easier for users to upgrade to 1.7. This patch is an update to http://subversion.apache.org/packages.html This patch keeps the links in alphabetical order. BASIC FEATURES * No registration is r

Re: [PATCH] RETRY: Patch to update the Binary Package download page with client-only, no-registration option

2011-12-01 Thread Andy Singleton
6 PM, Mark Phippard wrote: On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 5:38 PM, Andy Singleton wrote: Here is a patch to update the Binary Package page with links to client packages. This will make it easier for users to upgrade to 1.7. This patch is an update to http://subversion.apache.org/packages.html This patch

Re: [PATCH] RETRY: Patch to update the Binary Package download page with client-only, no-registration option

2011-12-02 Thread Andy Singleton
33 PM, Branko Čibej wrote: On 02.12.2011 05:12, Andy Singleton wrote: Shortly we will be putting up clients with new open source features that we have been working on, like EasySVN and Newmerge. If you want to use your seniority to turn this sort of thing out of the Apache community, then I guess