Re: [dev] [OT]: Go programming language

2009-11-12 Thread Jorge Vargas
can we please remove all the lisp/C talk from this thread. I came here to see what the dwm folks had to say about go and of course the remarkable people working on them. And I found a bunch of people that are not going to convince each other otherwise. If you simply refuse my question then please t

Re: [dev] [OT]: Go programming language

2009-11-12 Thread Aled Gest
2009/11/12 markus schnalke : > You said something like that a quick look at the syntax lets you judge > if it is clean/nice/whatever or not. > > I posted the above quote to show you that even simple things may not > be easy to see. I said "It doesn't take long to judge clarity". If it's not easy t

Re: [dev] [OT]: Go programming language

2009-11-12 Thread Jacob Todd
On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 08:39:24PM +0100, Dieter Plaetinck wrote: > take network interfaces on Linux for example. they have no device file > and it makes perfect sense. No it doesn't. -- Jake Todd // If it isn't broke, tweak it! pgpIfsqzRRzSH.pgp Description: PGP signature

[dev] wmii can save settings on close, can't it ?

2009-11-12 Thread David J Patrick
because I don't relish the idea of rebuilding them every time. djp

Re: [dev] [OT]: Go programming language

2009-11-12 Thread Dmitry Maluka
On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 06:16:00AM +1100, Jessta wrote: > Lisp has the 'everything is a list' problem and there is lots of > behaviour that doesn't fit well in to this. Consistancy can make > things intuitive, but you shouldn't sacrifice intuitiveness for > consistancy. Lisp does not have this pro

Re: [dev] [OT]: Go programming language

2009-11-12 Thread Dieter Plaetinck
On Fri, 13 Nov 2009 06:16:00 +1100 Jessta wrote: > The thing is that human beings don't really work well with lots of > things that are very similar, we get confused. Human beings prefer > things to be similar enough that we can use our previous knowledge to > figure them out but different enough

Re: [dev] [OT]: Go programming language

2009-11-12 Thread Dmitry Maluka
On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 03:32:37PM +, Aled Gest wrote: > Not really. I don't like having forced polish notation for everything, > if I did I'd just write everything in ASM. You have no clue what Lisp is. It's a meta-language. See below. > Well you've failed in that attempt. I just don't see a

Re: [dev] [OT]: Go programming language

2009-11-12 Thread Jessta
On 13/11/2009, Niki Yoshiuchi wrote: > I think part of what makes Lisp "elegant" and "clean" is the simplicity of > its grammar. It has the shortest and simplest grammar of all the major > programming languages. In fact a simplier grammar is binary notation, it's only got two characters and you

Re: [dev] [OT]: Go programming language

2009-11-12 Thread markus schnalke
[2009-11-12 15:32] Aled Gest > 2009/11/12 markus schnalke : > > > > Remember: ``Unix is simple. It just takes a genius to understand its > > simplicity.'' (dmr) > > Not quite sure what point you're trying to make here. You said something like that a quick look at the syntax lets you judge if i

Re: [dev] [OT]: Go programming language

2009-11-12 Thread Niki Yoshiuchi
On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 10:42 AM, Kurt H Maier wrote: > On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 9:37 AM, Niki Yoshiuchi wrote: > > Here is C++'s grammar: > http://www.csci.csusb.edu/dick/c++std/cd2/gram.html > > Here is Lisp's grammar: > > http://www.devincook.com/goldparser/doc/meta-language/grammar-LISP.htm >

Re: [dev] [OT]: Go programming language

2009-11-12 Thread Kurt H Maier
On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 9:37 AM, Niki Yoshiuchi wrote: > Here is C++'s grammar: http://www.csci.csusb.edu/dick/c++std/cd2/gram.html > Here is Lisp's grammar: > http://www.devincook.com/goldparser/doc/meta-language/grammar-LISP.htm I don't think I've ever seen a lisp program that conforms to that

Re: [dev] [OT]: Go programming language

2009-11-12 Thread Niki Yoshiuchi
I think part of what makes Lisp "elegant" and "clean" is the simplicity of its grammar. It has the shortest and simplest grammar of all the major programming languages. Here is C++'s grammar: http://www.csci.csusb.edu/dick/c++std/cd2/gram.html Here is Lisp's grammar: http://www.devincook.com/gold

Re: [dev] [OT]: Go programming language

2009-11-12 Thread Aled Gest
2009/11/12 markus schnalke : > Remember: ``Unix is simple. It just takes a genius to understand its > simplicity.'' (dmr) Not quite sure what point you're trying to make here. Unix has a nice philosophy, there are plenty of poor implementations of that philosophy though. If you're suggesting that

Re: [dev] [OT]: Go programming language

2009-11-12 Thread markus schnalke
[2009-11-12 02:49] Aled Gest > 2009/11/11 Antoni Grzymala : > > Looks like you didn't give more than half a minute's time, to see what > > Lisp's syntax (or rather the lack of it) is actually about. Your hopes > > are vain. > > It doesn't take long to judge clarity. Remember: ``Unix is simple.

Re: [dev] [OT]: Go programming language

2009-11-12 Thread Anselm R Garbe
2009/11/11 Mate Nagy : > Hello, >> I'm officially announcing a go excercise project called: godwm (dwm >> implemented in Go) >  i'd be interested in helping with this http://hg.suckless.org/godwm Kind regards, Anselm