[dev] Re: [ANN] sabotage 2011-04-30, a musl+busybox based distribution

2011-05-04 Thread Christian Neukirchen
pancake writes: > I would love to see gcc, clang, tcc or Go.. Else i dont see the point > of distributing make, patch, git and similar. We have gcc 4.5.3, but C only, because musl can't do C++ yet. tcc should build, gcc 4.6 apparently works too, which would provide Go I think? clang needs C++ b

Re: [dev] [ANN] sabotage 2011-04-30, a musl+busybox based distribution

2011-05-04 Thread Uriel
On Sun, May 1, 2011 at 12:29 AM, Christian Neukirchen wrote: > Hi, > > this is the third public release of sabotage, a distribution based on > musl and busybox.  Provided software is: This is a mildly interesting project that might have some potential. Please, replace gawk with a sane version of

Re: [dev] [ANN] sabotage 2011-04-30, a musl+busybox based distribution

2011-05-04 Thread Kurt H Maier
Netsurf brings in libxml.On May 4, 2011 9:01 AM, Uriel wrote: On Sun, May 1, 2011 at 12:29 AM, Christian Neukirchen wrote: > Hi, > > this is the third public release of sabotage, a distribution based on > musl and busybox.  Provided software is: This is a mildly interesting project that might ha

Re: [dev] [ANN] sabotage 2011-04-30, a musl+busybox based distribution

2011-05-04 Thread Nick
On Wed, May 04, 2011 at 09:30:49AM -0400, Kurt H Maier wrote: > Netsurf brings in libxml. style="overflow:hidden;"> style="width:75%">[snip] I enjoyed the irony of this email. And seriously, compare the code of netsurf and webkit-gtk sometime.

Re: [dev] [ANN] sabotage 2011-04-30, a musl+busybox based distribution

2011-05-04 Thread Kurt H Maier
On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 9:35 AM, Nick White wrote: > I enjoyed the irony of this email. If there existed a patch for the webos email client to not do that shit, I would apply *so fast* > And seriously, compare the code of netsurf and webkit-gtk > sometime. I don't understand why netsurf seems to

Re: [dev] [ANN] sabotage 2011-04-30, a musl+busybox based distribution

2011-05-04 Thread Nick
On Wed, May 04, 2011 at 09:43:28AM -0400, Kurt H Maier wrote: > On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 9:35 AM, Nick White wrote: > > And seriously, compare the code of netsurf and webkit-gtk > > sometime. > > I don't understand why netsurf seems to require libxml at runtime. I didn't know it did. Are you using

Re: [dev] [ANN] sabotage 2011-04-30, a musl+busybox based distribution

2011-05-04 Thread Corey Thomasson
On May 4, 2011 9:01 AM, "Uriel" wrote: > > On Sun, May 1, 2011 at 12:29 AM, Christian Neukirchen > wrote: > > Hi, > > > > this is the third public release of sabotage, a distribution based on > > musl and busybox. Provided software is: > > This is a mildly interesting project that might have som

Re: [dev] [ANN] sabotage 2011-04-30, a musl+busybox based distribution

2011-05-04 Thread pancake
Didnt knew netsurf. it looks fast. but... 1) keyboard support sucks (no way to change between tabs, and no way to switch between text fields, links, ... with tab) 2) dependencies: Depends On : libmng librsvg curl libglade lcms libjpeg>=7 libwapcaplet libcss I don't get the point

Re: [dev] [ANN] sabotage 2011-04-30, a musl+busybox based distribution

2011-05-04 Thread Nick
One thing you should know about netsurf is that there are a few different frontends which work on linux. You're looking at the GTK one, which is naturally heavier on dependencies. The other major one is a 'framebuffer' frontend, which is a generic api which can hook into x or directfb. I think the

Re: [dev] [ANN] sabotage 2011-04-30, a musl+busybox based distribution

2011-05-04 Thread Kurt H Maier
On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 2:02 PM, Nick wrote: > I didn't know it did. Are you using a newish build? Using the packages for openbsd. > The framebuffer port doesn't look that wierd. I still dream > of writing a surf interface using netsurf's parsers > libraries, http://www.netsurf-browser.org/projec

Re: [dev] [ANN] sabotage 2011-04-30, a musl+busybox based distribution

2011-05-04 Thread pancake
On 05/04/11 16:31, Nick wrote: One thing you should know about netsurf is that there are a few different frontends which work on linux. You're looking at the GTK one, which is naturally heavier on dependencies. The other major one is a 'framebuffer' frontend, which is a generic api which can hook

[dev] Re: [ANN] sabotage 2011-04-30, a musl+busybox based distribution

2011-05-04 Thread Christian Neukirchen
Uriel writes: > Please, replace gawk with a sane version of awk, like the one included > with 9base. gcc4 needs an awk more powerful than busybox awk, thats why it's there. I'm not sure it works with 9base awk, but it's easy to test. > Also, adding Go should be easy as it completely bypasses li

Re: [dev] Re: [ANN] sabotage 2011-04-30, a musl+busybox based distribution

2011-05-04 Thread pancake
On 05/04/11 17:22, Christian Neukirchen wrote: Uriel writes: Please, replace gawk with a sane version of awk, like the one included with 9base. gcc4 needs an awk more powerful than busybox awk, thats why it's there. I'm not sure it works with 9base awk, but it's easy to test. more than gcc..

Re: [dev] Re: [ANN] sabotage 2011-04-30, a musl+busybox based distribution

2011-05-04 Thread Jakub Lach
4 May 2011 17:22 Christian Neukirchen wrote: > NetSurf needs GTK+ on X, which pulls in a shitload of deps +1

Re: [dev] [ANN] sabotage 2011-04-30, a musl+busybox based distribution

2011-05-04 Thread Ethan Grammatikidis
On 4 May 2011, at 4:27 pm, pancake wrote: i dont see the point of using libglade for the gtk backend... it's just the reason why it depends on libxml and this is probably the main bottleneck for loading the gtk UI... gtk is the main bottleneck for loading the gtk ui. it became an unpleas

[dev] Re: [ANN] sabotage 2011-04-30, a musl+busybox based distribution

2011-05-04 Thread Christian Neukirchen
pancake writes: > more than gcc.. i think it's about autoshit. but well..if you are not > distributing gcc in the base distro you dont need awk. you should > split the compilation environment to the deployment one with a > toolchain stage. then you can make different "tapes" to load the > develop

Re: [dev] [ANN] sabotage 2011-04-30, a musl+busybox based distribution

2011-05-04 Thread Nick
On Wed, May 04, 2011 at 05:27:26PM +0200, pancake wrote: > On 05/04/11 16:31, Nick wrote: > i dont see the point of using libglade for the gtk backend... it's > just the reason why it depends on libxml and this is probably the > main bottleneck for loading the gtk UI... > >I think their RISC OS fro

[dev] [dwm] devilspie doesn't work

2011-05-04 Thread Maciej Sobkowski
Hi, Is this possible to run devilspie with dwm? I can't get it to work. I want to match windows of particular apps and preform some actions on them, but devilspie doesn't see any windows at all. Is there any solution available? I've tried to get help on arch linux forum/irc/mailing list and also co

Re: [dev] [dwm] devilspie doesn't work

2011-05-04 Thread Connor Lane Smith
Hey, On 4 May 2011 17:23, Maciej Sobkowski wrote: > Is this possible to run devilspie with dwm? I can't get it to work. I > want to match windows of particular apps and preform some actions on > them, but devilspie doesn't see any windows at all. Is there any > solution available? afaik devilspi

Re: [dev] [dwm] devilspie doesn't work

2011-05-04 Thread Bryan Bennett
from what I understand, devilspie assumes a reparenting window manager, which is why you're not seeing any windows listed. What operations are you trying to perform on these windows? Anything that cannot be done in config.h?

Re: [dev] [ANN] sabotage 2011-04-30, a musl+busybox based distribution

2011-05-04 Thread Uriel
On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 3:30 PM, Kurt H Maier wrote: > Netsurf brings in libxml. A web browser brings an xml parser?!? No shit! uriel

Re: [dev] [ANN] sabotage 2011-04-30, a musl+busybox based distribution

2011-05-04 Thread Uriel
On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 4:06 PM, Corey Thomasson wrote: > Not quite. A few commits ago the net package was changed to use libc in > places and dynamically link unfortunately Blame Apple that breaks any code that doesn't do networking via their luserspace crap. In any case, Go's own DNS resolver i

Re: [dev] Re: [ANN] sabotage 2011-04-30, a musl+busybox based distribution

2011-05-04 Thread Uriel
On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 5:22 PM, Christian Neukirchen wrote: > Uriel writes: > >> Please, replace gawk with a sane version of awk, like the one included >> with 9base. The awk in 9base is a hacked up version of bwk's one-true-awk that supports UTF-8. > gcc4 needs an awk more powerful than busyb

Re: [dev] [dwm] devilspie doesn't work

2011-05-04 Thread Maciej Sobkowski
I want to add transparency to terminal windows using transset-df. Is this possible to acomplish within config.h file? On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 7:22 PM, Bryan Bennett wrote: > from what I understand, devilspie assumes a reparenting window > manager, which is why you're not seeing any windows listed.

Re: [dev] [ANN] sabotage 2011-04-30, a musl+busybox based distribution

2011-05-04 Thread Bjartur Thorlacius
On 5/4/11, Nick wrote: >> 4) possibility to filter or ban ads? (custom js fun? custom css stuff?) > > I use privoxy for this; browser independant and generally a > local proxy seems like the right place to do this sort of > stuff. Putting this into the HTTP implementation, or in a wrapper around i

Re: [dev] [dwm] devilspie doesn't work

2011-05-04 Thread Rob
On 4 May 2011 20:59, Maciej Sobkowski wrote: > I want to add transparency to terminal windows using transset-df. Is > this possible to acomplish within config.h file? This has been mentioned before on the list, generally transparency is seen as a superfluous extra by most suckless members. ... b

Re: [dev] Sup and dmc

2011-05-04 Thread Uriel
On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 7:49 AM, SHRIZZA wrote: >> You know, we could all say we're using shitty MUAs because we see >> the rendered HTML rather than the plain-text component. ;) Even >> HTML-only mail can be converted to plain text. > > Solution: use mutt. Real solution: Exterminate all Apple us

Re: [dev] Sup and dmc

2011-05-04 Thread Ricardo Catalinas Jiménez
Despite Mutt does a good job for me, today I tried Heirloom mailx[1] and I'm hooked to its simplicity. [1] http://heirloom.sourceforge.net/mailx.html -- Ricardo

Re: [dev] [dwm] devilspie doesn't work

2011-05-04 Thread Bryan Bennett
Why not just use the built in transparency of the terminal? I use urxvt with both real and fake transparency and I've had absolutely no problem. Xterm, aterm, eterm, urxvt, sakura, evilvte and lilyterm all support some sort of transparency, so I don't see why devilspie OR that patch are needed at a