Re: [dev] Simple made Easy (Rich Hickey at StrangeLoop)

2011-10-27 Thread hiro
Object orientation is downloading flash to participate in off-topic meta discussions.

Re: [dev] Linux sucks!

2011-10-27 Thread Pierre Chapuis
And here are the super fancy slides in OpenOffice format. Stopped here. This guy is not qualified to rant.

Re: [dev] Re: sharpening the suckless philosophy

2011-10-27 Thread hiro
I guess no wmii guy will take your freedom to delete. But please also remember potential new user's freedoms. I reserve my rights to sue anybody involved in this megafuckup with the help of net neutrality laws. I guess I'll also call RMS and ask him to create a poll or so.

Re: [dev] Linux sucks!

2011-10-27 Thread Dieter Plaetinck
that guy is wrong in so many ways I won't even bother to mention any specifics. Sure, the stuff he mentions is somewhat correlated to the real problems with spare time open source software, but his interpretations and solutions, oh my. He doesn't really know what he's talking about. Dieter

Re: [dev] List of tools for a CLI environment

2011-10-27 Thread Jimmy Tang
On 26 Oct 2011, at 17:12, Kurt H Maier wrote: On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 11:34 AM, Jimmy Tang jt...@tchpc.tcd.ie wrote: just showed this to a friend of mine and he cooked this up ls ${PATH//:/ } shit only works in bash oddly it worked in mksh which is the main shell that i tend to use.

Re: [dev] List of tools for a CLI environment

2011-10-27 Thread Bjartur Thorlacius
On 10/27/11, Jimmy Tang jt...@tchpc.tcd.ie wrote: On 26 Oct 2011, at 17:12, Kurt H Maier wrote: On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 11:34 AM, Jimmy Tang jt...@tchpc.tcd.ie wrote: just showed this to a friend of mine and he cooked this up ls ${PATH//:/ } shit only works in bash oddly it worked in

Re: [dev] List of tools for a CLI environment

2011-10-27 Thread markus schnalke
[2011-10-27 09:05] Bjartur Thorlacius svartma...@gmail.com Directory names are a sequence of arbitrary nonzero bytes. Parsing a concatenation of arbitrary strings sucks. Directories can only be separated by zero bytes. That's actually a bug in Unix, discovered too late. meillo

[dev] [dwm] Where is monocle mode in dwm 1.7.1?

2011-10-27 Thread Martin Kopta
I just returned back to dwm after long time and I miss monocle mode. I was searching in mailing list and commit messages, but I couldn't find any mention of monocle mode being stripped out. Also, website of dwm says, there are three modes (tiled, monocle, floating). Did I miss something?

Re: [dev] [dwm] Where is monocle mode in dwm 1.7.1?

2011-10-27 Thread Kurt H Maier
current dwm version is 5.9 try again -- # Kurt H Maier

Re: [dev] [dwm] Where is monocle mode in dwm 1.7.1?

2011-10-27 Thread Martin Kopta
that explains few things.. thank you On 10/27/2011 02:40 PM, Kurt H Maier wrote: current dwm version is 5.9 try again

Re: [dev] Linux sucks!

2011-10-27 Thread Bryan Bennett
I watched this last night and raged pretty hard for 45 minutes. The guy has somevalid points, but proposes absolutely no viable solution for it. His pointregarding video editors requiring significant dedicated development time andtheir non-existance for Linux, for instance, is valid. Asking that

Re: [dev] Linux sucks!

2011-10-27 Thread hiro
this video is not available sucks

Re: [dev] Linux sucks!

2011-10-27 Thread hiro
You guys are so stupid if you think ./configure is great

Re: [dev] Linux sucks!

2011-10-27 Thread Justin Pogue
On Thu, 2011-10-27 at 16:04 +0200, hiro wrote: You guys are so stupid if you think ./configure is great beat me to it

Re: [dev] Linux sucks!

2011-10-27 Thread Bryan Bennett
I don't think anyone here actually feels that the monolith that most configure scripts become is a good thing. However, that's not within the scope of what's going on here - the idea being that ./configure is a necessary part of compiling a sizable portion of software. Saying that we need a

Re: [dev] Linux sucks!

2011-10-27 Thread Pieter Praet
On Thu, 27 Oct 2011 16:02:46 +0200, hiro 23h...@googlemail.com wrote: this video is not available sucks Don't worry, you're not missing out on anything, besides the guy making a total fool of himself in front of a totally oblivious audience (which is just annoying; no comical value

Re: [dev] Linux sucks!

2011-10-27 Thread Pieter Praet
On Thu, 27 Oct 2011 16:04:21 +0200, hiro 23h...@googlemail.com wrote: You guys are so stupid if you think ./configure is great Nobody said anything of the like. Are you projecting or something? ;) Peace -- Pieter

Re: [dev] Linux sucks!

2011-10-27 Thread Kurt H Maier
On Thu, Oct 27, 2011 at 10:54 AM, Bryan Bennett bbenn...@gmail.com wrote: I don't think anyone here actually feels that the monolith that most configure scripts become is a good thing. However, that's not within the scope of what's going on here - the idea being that ./configure is a necessary

Re: [dev] List of tools for a CLI environment

2011-10-27 Thread Bjartur Thorlacius
On Thu, 27 Oct 2011 10:36:20 -, markus schnalke mei...@marmaro.de wrote: That's actually a bug in Unix, discovered too late. Yeah, and SQL injection attacks are PEBKAC problems. Tokenization by insertion of whitespace into arbitrary strings is plain harmful. The bug in Unix is caused by

Re: [dev] Bugs in dwm

2011-10-27 Thread pancake
https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=662862 On 10/26/11 00:22, Kurt H Maier wrote: On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 4:52 PM, pancakepanc...@youterm.com wrote: 1) gtk3 apps when resized by using the corner widget (see gedit for example) got hanged an capture the mouse. Only solution is to go to

Re: [dev] Linux sucks!

2011-10-27 Thread Christoph Lohmann
Greetings. On 27.10.2011 02:04, Guilherme Lino wrote: yo fund this.. it kind of old, but it rise some questions http://lunduke.com/?p=429 how do you feel about this? At least he is able to setup a website. Sincerely, Christoph Lohmann

Re: [dev] Linux sucks!

2011-10-27 Thread David
Am 27.10.2011 17:57, schrieb Christoph Lohmann: Greetings. On 27.10.2011 02:04, Guilherme Lino wrote: yo fund this.. it kind of old, but it rise some questions http://lunduke.com/?p=429 how do you feel about this? At least he is able to setup a website. Sincerely, Christoph Lohmann

[dev] [dmenu] patch - multisel

2011-10-27 Thread Evan Gates
Hello, After some discussion in #suckless here is a patch that allows multiselect in dmenu. Ctrl+enter prints the selected item without exiting dmenu, and changes its color. Enjoy, -emg diff -r bebcf140b8a9 dmenu.1 --- a/dmenu.1 Wed Oct 26 14:16:12 2011 +0100 +++ b/dmenu.1 Thu Oct 27 12:56:43

Re: [dev] Linux sucks!

2011-10-27 Thread Guilherme Lino
yeah but the true is that a linux desktop is almost useless for a normal person i remember first time i used ubuntu. i started a openoffice presentation on the 4th slide the system was already unusable. And wet back to windows, even google docs was better for the job. of course latex is cool,

Re: [dev] Linux sucks!

2011-10-27 Thread Peter John Hartman
I beg to differ. beamer for my slideshows. ledpar/ledmac for critical editions. (http://www.djdekker.net/) latex for publications. perl for searches (stanford encyclopedia of philosophy) git for collaboration (buridanica.net) antiword to read student papers and i work in the HUMANITIES, baby.

Re: [dev] Linux sucks!

2011-10-27 Thread Andrew Hills
On Thu, Oct 27, 2011 at 5:33 PM, Guilherme Lino guih.l...@gmail.com wrote: yeah but the true is that a linux desktop is almost useless for a normal person i remember first time i used ubuntu. i started a openoffice presentation on the 4th slide the system was already unusable. And wet back to

Re: [dev] Linux sucks!

2011-10-27 Thread Kurt H Maier
On Thu, Oct 27, 2011 at 5:33 PM, Guilherme Lino guih.l...@gmail.com wrote: yeah but the true is that a linux desktop is almost useless for a normal person who the fuck cares about normal people? -- # Kurt H Maier

Re: [dev] Linux sucks!

2011-10-27 Thread Pieter Praet
On Thu, 27 Oct 2011 22:33:18 +0100, Guilherme Lino guih.l...@gmail.com wrote: yeah but the true is that a linux desktop is almost useless for a normal person s/normal/uninformed Also, see Kurt Maier's response [1]. i remember first time i used ubuntu. i started a openoffice presentation on