Re: [dev] Re: Regarding "dogma" words

2012-08-10 Thread Arthur No
Another word for bickering over semantics when they already understood is "toolbag" aka "butthurt" aka "not suckless." The concept is communicated clearly, regardless and doesn't have much to do with dev. On Fri, Aug 10, 2012 at 9:04 PM, Kurt H Maier wrote: > On Sat, Aug 11, 2012 at 04:22:57AM

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2012-08-10 Thread Jon Bradley
Its not that, just no time to read it anymore.. On Aug 10, 2012 5:17 PM, "Calvin Morrison" wrote: > But why does he want to go? Is he sick of the philosophical bs, trolling, > or top posters like me? > > The world demands an answer! > > Calvin > On Aug 10, 2012 8:24 PM, "Carlos Torres" wrote: >

Re: [dev] Re: Regarding "dogma" words

2012-08-10 Thread Kurt H Maier
On Sat, Aug 11, 2012 at 04:22:57AM +0200, Harry wrote: > Don't be too hard on the posts - at least they contain comments... > > which is more than can be said about the coding. > > "Not suckless" is a double negative - do they write code that way? > > Someone says they don't have to give a "beca

[dev] Re: Regarding "dogma" words

2012-08-10 Thread Harry
Don't be too hard on the posts - at least they contain comments... which is more than can be said about the coding. "Not suckless" is a double negative - do they write code that way? Someone says they don't have to give a "because" to call something "not suckless" (i.e. "it sucks"). Is this the

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2012-08-10 Thread Calvin Morrison
But why does he want to go? Is he sick of the philosophical bs, trolling, or top posters like me? The world demands an answer! Calvin On Aug 10, 2012 8:24 PM, "Carlos Torres" wrote: > he just had to click on that now > On Aug 10, 2012 7:41 PM, "Kurt H Maier" wrote: > >> On Fri, Aug 10, 2012 at

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2012-08-10 Thread Carlos Torres
he just had to click on that now On Aug 10, 2012 7:41 PM, "Kurt H Maier" wrote: > On Fri, Aug 10, 2012 at 03:34:57PM -0800, Jon Bradley wrote: > > dev+unsubscr...@suckless.org > > almost there! > > >

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2012-08-10 Thread Kurt H Maier
On Fri, Aug 10, 2012 at 03:34:57PM -0800, Jon Bradley wrote: > dev+unsubscr...@suckless.org almost there!

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Re: Regarding "dogma" words [Was: Re: Regarding "make"-systems [Was: Re:[dev] Build system: redo]]

2012-08-10 Thread Christoph Lohmann
Greetings. On Sat, 11 Aug 2012 00:58:35 +0200 Ciprian Dorin Craciun wrote: > On Fri, Aug 10, 2012 at 5:06 PM, hiro <23h...@gmail.com> wrote: > > people like inventing words. so what? > > I'm not against inventing words... On the contrary a language must > evolve... > > > But I'm agai

Re: Regarding "dogma" words [Was: Re: Regarding "make"-systems [Was: Re: [dev] Build system: redo]]

2012-08-10 Thread Jacob Todd
ok kid. On Aug 10, 2012 5:29 PM, "Strake" wrote: > On 10/08/2012, hiro <23h...@gmail.com> wrote: > > well, this is an elitist list of mothafockas who don't give a shit > > about others. that's why communication theorists can go away. > > > > Yep. We're so elite, we're not bound by any mere laws o

Re: Regarding "dogma" words [Was: Re: Regarding "make"-systems [Was: Re: [dev] Build system: redo]]

2012-08-10 Thread Strake
On 10/08/2012, hiro <23h...@gmail.com> wrote: > well, this is an elitist list of mothafockas who don't give a shit > about others. that's why communication theorists can go away. > Yep. We're so elite, we're not bound by any mere laws of physics. Just watch us squeeze many GB of entropy into this

Re: Regarding "dogma" words [Was: Re: Regarding "make"-systems [Was: Re: [dev] Build system: redo]]

2012-08-10 Thread hiro
well, this is an elitist list of mothafockas who don't give a shit about others. that's why communication theorists can go away.

Re: Regarding "dogma" words [Was: Re: Regarding "make"-systems [Was: Re: [dev] Build system: redo]]

2012-08-10 Thread Sean Howard
Obviousness varies by experience and research. On 2012-08-10 2:27 PM, "Anselm R Garbe" wrote: > On 10 August 2012 16:32, Ciprian Dorin Craciun > wrote: > > On Fri, Aug 10, 2012 at 5:06 PM, hiro <23h...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> people like inventing words. so what? > > > > I'm not against inven

Re: Regarding "dogma" words [Was: Re: Regarding "make"-systems [Was: Re: [dev] Build system: redo]]

2012-08-10 Thread Anselm R Garbe
On 10 August 2012 16:32, Ciprian Dorin Craciun wrote: > On Fri, Aug 10, 2012 at 5:06 PM, hiro <23h...@gmail.com> wrote: >> people like inventing words. so what? > > I'm not against inventing words... On the contrary a language must > evolve... > > > But I'm against using a quasi meaningle

Regarding "dogma" words [Was: Re: Regarding "make"-systems [Was: Re: [dev] Build system: redo]]

2012-08-10 Thread Ciprian Dorin Craciun
On Fri, Aug 10, 2012 at 5:06 PM, hiro <23h...@gmail.com> wrote: > people like inventing words. so what? I'm not against inventing words... On the contrary a language must evolve... But I'm against using a quasi meaningless word as an answer without also providing a meaningful or coherent

Re: Regarding "make"-systems [Was: Re: [dev] Build system: redo]

2012-08-10 Thread hiro
people like inventing words. so what?

Re: Regarding "make"-systems [Was: Re: [dev] Build system: redo]

2012-08-10 Thread Kurt H Maier
On Fri, Aug 10, 2012 at 12:48:22PM +0300, Ciprian Dorin Craciun wrote: > P.S.: Everytime I hear "suckless" (or "pythonic", or > "the-java-way", or "the-unix-way", or "the-< language>>-way"), it makes me thing of a dogmatic priest chanting his > ritual... And most of the time I have the feeling

Re: Regarding "make"-systems [Was: Re: [dev] Build system: redo]

2012-08-10 Thread Connor Lane Smith
Hey, On 10 August 2012 10:48, Ciprian Dorin Craciun wrote: > As such -- if I get the "suckless" definition correctly (but see > the P.S.) -- such a tool is far from the original intent because it > does all sorts of things instead of doing exactly one correctly... We were actually talking ab

Regarding "make"-systems [Was: Re: [dev] Build system: redo]

2012-08-10 Thread Ciprian Dorin Craciun
(I've changed the subject of the thread because I want to move the discussion in a more "general" direction not specific to one build system.) On Sun, Jul 15, 2012 at 7:53 PM, Anselm R Garbe wrote: > The holy make replacement is already there: > > http://man.suckless.org/9base/mk Sta