Re: [dev] Suckless generic diagram creation software?

2013-02-06 Thread markus schnalke
[2013-02-06 16:18] Jacob Todd > > Troff and pic. ... to draw diagrams manually; graphviz for automatic layouting of graphs. meillo

Re: [dev] st very slow to refresh when x is oriented left / right

2013-02-06 Thread Sam Watkins
On Tue, Feb 05, 2013 at 04:59:28PM +, Nick wrote: > 'xrandr -o left', as that is clearly superior. > > the newer versions of st, using XFT, are very slow at refreshing > when things are in this mode interesting, it might be good to design apps or libs to render using 'vertical scan-lines' in

Re: [dev] snotes v0.9 - a simple notes system

2013-02-06 Thread Sam Watkins
Apparently the BSD way to specify editor ($EDITOR / $VISUAL / mailcap) sucks pretty bad. I reckon mailcap is basically a good idea, but doesn't work very well, and could use some occam's razor. I hazard to guess that the freedesktop people have reimplemented it rather than fixed it :/ Anyway, as

Re: [dev] Suckless Beer Recipe Creator

2013-02-06 Thread Chris Down
On 7 February 2013 11:53, Wolfgang Sanyer wrote: > ezzieyguywuf was my first ever screen name, back in middle school. I > coined it for AIMing with girls: I wanted them to know I was "easy" and > that I'm a guy. And my name is Wolfgang, so I appended the wuf. Oh, and the > silly spelling for ezzi

Re: [dev] Suckless generic diagram creation software?

2013-02-06 Thread Sam Watkins
On Wed, Feb 06, 2013 at 04:37:02PM -0800, Charlie Kester wrote: > On 02/06/2013 12:32, Carlos Torres wrote: > >graphviz > > +1 yeah, graphviz is really very good, I've used it to automatically generate graphs of program structure (for graph-structured programs, not like C code). I didn't try the

Re: [dev] Suckless Beer Recipe Creator

2013-02-06 Thread Wolfgang Sanyer
*IRC , silly auto-correct... On Feb 6, 2013 10:53 PM, "Wolfgang Sanyer" wrote: > Sam, > > Thanks for your input. Looking back, I agree with you about the ASCII > stuff. I used some module to format the tables for me, bc I didn't want to > reinvent the wheel there. I'll check if I can configure th

Re: [dev] Suckless Beer Recipe Creator

2013-02-06 Thread Wolfgang Sanyer
Sam, Thanks for your input. Looking back, I agree with you about the ASCII stuff. I used some module to format the tables for me, bc I didn't want to reinvent the wheel there. I'll check if I can configure the borders out of it, and if not I'll have to implement my own table printing method. ezzi

Re: [dev] Suckless Beer Recipe Creator

2013-02-06 Thread Sam Watkins
Wolfgang Sanyer wrote: > Hello Group :-) > > I've written what I believe to be a Beer Recipe Creator that Sucks Less. > https://github.com/ezzieyguywuf/recipator Anything to do with beer sucks less that your average shell tool! For my money, python is a highly suckless language, at least the lan

Re: [dev] Suckless generic diagram creation software?

2013-02-06 Thread Charlie Kester
On 02/06/2013 16:37, Charlie Kester wrote: On 02/06/2013 12:32, Carlos Torres wrote: graphviz +1 I've been toying with the idea of using dot as a design tool while sketching out the function hierarchy of a program I'm working on. In the past I've used it to document a design after the fact,

[dev] Suckless Beer Recipe Creator

2013-02-06 Thread Wolfgang Sanyer
Hello Group :-) I've written what I believe to be a Beer Recipe Creator that Sucks Less. I'm hosting it here on GitHub. The program is written in python-2.7. It accepts a plain text file as input and outputs plain text back to the command-line. I've gott

Re: [dev] Suckless generic diagram creation software?

2013-02-06 Thread Charlie Kester
On 02/06/2013 12:32, Carlos Torres wrote: graphviz +1 I've been toying with the idea of using dot as a design tool while sketching out the function hierarchy of a program I'm working on. In the past I've used it to document a design after the fact, but it's only recently that it occurred t

Re: [dev] Suckless generic diagram creation software?

2013-02-06 Thread Calvin Morrison
On 6 February 2013 15:31, Manolo Martínez wrote: > On 02/06/13 at 03:29pm, Peter Hartman wrote: >> LaTeX >> > I use and love LaTeX, but LaTeX is *not* lightweight. Right, but LaTeX definitely sucks. It's a mess! I also use firefox, but that isn't suckless. I think we need to be careful to respond

Re: [dev] Suckless generic diagram creation software?

2013-02-06 Thread Strake
On 06/02/2013, Peter Hartman wrote: > 2013/2/6 Manolo Martínez : >> On 02/06/13 at 03:29pm, Peter Hartman wrote: >>> LaTeX >>> >> I use and love LaTeX, but LaTeX is *not* lightweight. > > Depends on the measure, but it is lighter both in terms of its source, > memory footprint, and deps than any a

Re: [dev] Suckless generic diagram creation software?

2013-02-06 Thread Jacob Todd
Troff and pic.

Re: [dev] Suckless generic diagram creation software?

2013-02-06 Thread Manolo Martínez
On 02/06/13 at 03:40pm, Peter Hartman wrote: > 2013/2/6 Manolo Martínez : > > On 02/06/13 at 03:29pm, Peter Hartman wrote: > >> LaTeX > >> > > I use and love LaTeX, but LaTeX is *not* lightweight. > > Depends on the measure, but it is lighter both in terms of its source, > memory footprint, and de

Re: [dev] Suckless generic diagram creation software?

2013-02-06 Thread Roberto E. Vargas Caballero
>Does anyone know of some lightweight generic diagram software? So far all >I've found are bloated programs that pull in gnome/kde dependencies (for >example dia pulled in gstreamer/vlc, what the heck right?). Basically what >I'm looking for is a program that nicely integrates drawi

Re: [dev] Suckless generic diagram creation software?

2013-02-06 Thread Peter Hartman
2013/2/6 Manolo Martínez : > On 02/06/13 at 03:29pm, Peter Hartman wrote: >> LaTeX >> > I use and love LaTeX, but LaTeX is *not* lightweight. Depends on the measure, but it is lighter both in terms of its source, memory footprint, and deps than any app based on gtk. -p -- sic dicit magister P U

Re: [dev] Suckless generic diagram creation software?

2013-02-06 Thread Manolo Martínez
On 02/06/13 at 03:29pm, Peter Hartman wrote: > LaTeX > I use and love LaTeX, but LaTeX is *not* lightweight. > 2013/2/6 Lee Fallat : > > Hey suckless fans, > > > > Does anyone know of some lightweight generic diagram software? So far all > > I've found are bloated programs that pull in gnome/kde

Re: [dev] Suckless generic diagram creation software?

2013-02-06 Thread Carlos Torres
graphviz

Re: [dev] Suckless generic diagram creation software?

2013-02-06 Thread Peter Hartman
LaTeX 2013/2/6 Lee Fallat : > Hey suckless fans, > > Does anyone know of some lightweight generic diagram software? So far all > I've found are bloated programs that pull in gnome/kde dependencies (for > example dia pulled in gstreamer/vlc, what the heck right?). Basically what > I'm looking for i

[dev] Suckless generic diagram creation software?

2013-02-06 Thread Lee Fallat
Hey suckless fans, Does anyone know of some lightweight generic diagram software? So far all I've found are bloated programs that pull in gnome/kde dependencies (for example dia pulled in gstreamer/vlc, what the heck right?). Basically what I'm looking for is a program that nicely integrates drawi

Re: [dev] [st] Delete key not working outside of curses

2013-02-06 Thread Roberto E. Vargas Caballero
> The suggested command 'echo $(tput smkx) >/dev/tty' works fine. > However, setting enable-keypad in .inputrc has strange results. It > doesn't make a difference to the delete key functionality, but does > result in the 'k' key not being recognised... Also it wasn't clear > from the FAQ whether I

Re: [dev] [st] Delete key not working outside of curses

2013-02-06 Thread Nick
On Wed, Feb 06, 2013 at 12:57:09PM +0100, Martti Kühne wrote: > On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 12:44 PM, Nick wrote: > > Next thing with st that I found. The delete key doesn't work, unless > > I'm in a curses application (mutt & vim at least work fine). But at > > the command prompt (bash) it doesn't do

Re: [dev] [st] Delete key not working outside of curses

2013-02-06 Thread Nick
On Wed, Feb 06, 2013 at 07:51:41PM +0800, Chris Down wrote: > Probably a readline issue. What is the output of ''bind -p''? Attached. "\C-g": abort "\C-x\C-g": abort "\e\C-g": abort "\C-j": accept-line "\C-m": accept-line # alias-expand-line (not bound) # arrow-key-prefix (not bound) # backward-b

Re: [dev] [st] Delete key not working outside of curses

2013-02-06 Thread Martti Kühne
On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 12:44 PM, Nick wrote: > Next thing with st that I found. The delete key doesn't work, unless > I'm in a curses application (mutt & vim at least work fine). But at > the command prompt (bash) it doesn't do anything. Backspace works > fine. > > Let me know if I can provide mor

Re: [dev] [st] Delete key not working outside of curses

2013-02-06 Thread Chris Down
Probably a readline issue. What is the output of ''bind -p''? Chris On 6 February 2013 19:44, Nick wrote: > Next thing with st that I found. The delete key doesn't work, unless > I'm in a curses application (mutt & vim at least work fine). But at > the command prompt (bash) it doesn't do anythi

[dev] [st] Delete key not working outside of curses

2013-02-06 Thread Nick
Next thing with st that I found. The delete key doesn't work, unless I'm in a curses application (mutt & vim at least work fine). But at the command prompt (bash) it doesn't do anything. Backspace works fine. Let me know if I can provide more useful information.

Re: [dev] st very slow to refresh when x is oriented left / right

2013-02-06 Thread Mihail Zenkov
2013/2/6, Nick : > OK, I found the issue. It was a driver bug. Switching to the video > driver in squeeze-backports fixed things completely, and as a bonus > redrawing in everything (not just in st) is much quicker now. You can also try add Option "AccelMethod" "SNA" in your xorg.conf to enable ne

Re: [dev] st very slow to refresh when x is oriented left / right

2013-02-06 Thread Nick
OK, I found the issue. It was a driver bug. Switching to the video driver in squeeze-backports fixed things completely, and as a bonus redrawing in everything (not just in st) is much quicker now.