Re: [dev] Allow secure access to Web site suckless.org

2016-08-03 Thread Pickfire
I would also really like to see a hidden service for suckless.org, not everyone uses hidden service but it's generally really easy to set it up, I tried setting it up some time ago without even setting up port forwarding in router. But one thing I heard that is going to be coming out is that the

Re: [dev] Allow secure access to Web site suckless.org

2016-08-03 Thread Staven
On Wed, Aug 03, 2016 at 01:21:46PM +0200, Anselm R Garbe wrote: > Do you trust your network adapter telling you the truth? > > Nevertheless I doubt you don't use online banking and stuff like that, > hence you definitely trust some CA to some extent ;) I always wear a tinfoil hat and double up on

Re: [dev] Allow secure access to Web site suckless.org

2016-08-03 Thread Hiltjo Posthuma
On Wed, Aug 03, 2016 at 01:28:40PM +0200, FRIGN wrote: > On Wed, 3 Aug 2016 12:23:41 +0100 > Dimitris Papastamos wrote: > > > I did set it up for the first few months but then was too lazy to > > renew it. > > What about Hiltjo then? He set it up for codemadness.nl. > > -- > FRIGN > FWIW I

[dev] [dwm] Question regarding `unmanage()` in while loop

2016-08-03 Thread Paul Menzel
Dear suckless folks, sorry, for being ignorant, but I have one question regarding the warning below from Clang’s static analyzer scan-build. ``` dwm.c:480:4: warning: Use of memory after it is freed unmanage(m->stack, 0); ^ `

Re: [dev] Allow secure access to Web site suckless.org

2016-08-03 Thread Markus Teich
FRIGN wrote: > Even if you use self-signed certificates on your server, which provide 0 > guarantee that the server you are contacting really is the "right" one, it > still means the traffic itself is encrypted, with all benefits of it. Heyho, In our case it would do nothing. There is no "secret"

Re: [dev] Allow secure access to Web site suckless.org

2016-08-03 Thread Kamil Cholewiński
Alternative to the CA system: http://convergence.io/ Alternative to SSL: use SSH to clone git repos. The site contents are available over git as well. Food for thought: https://github.com/shazow/ssh-chat Now, if there was public SSH access, things like gitolite do exist... <3,K.

Re: [dev] Allow secure access to Web site suckless.org

2016-08-03 Thread Christoph Lohmann
Greetings. On Wed, 03 Aug 2016 13:35:11 +0200 Anselm R Garbe wrote: > Hi 20h, > > On 3 August 2016 at 12:18, Christoph Lohmann <2...@r-36.net> wrote: > > On Wed, 03 Aug 2016 12:18:52 +0200 Paul Menzel > > wrote: > >> I noticed, that it’s currently not possible to securely browse the Web > >> s

Re: [dev] Allow secure access to Web site suckless.org

2016-08-03 Thread Dionysis Grigoropoulos
On Wed, Aug 03, 2016 at 01:16:06PM +0200, FRIGN wrote: > On Wed, 3 Aug 2016 13:10:06 +0200 > hiro <23h...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > are you claiming Let's Encrypt is trustworthy?! > > To clear this up, no, I am not. However, Let's Encrypt is not about > certifying the server on the other end in the

Re: [dev] Allow secure access to Web site suckless.org

2016-08-03 Thread FRIGN
On Wed, 3 Aug 2016 12:23:41 +0100 Dimitris Papastamos wrote: > I did set it up for the first few months but then was too lazy to > renew it. What about Hiltjo then? He set it up for codemadness.nl. -- FRIGN

Re: [dev] Allow secure access to Web site suckless.org

2016-08-03 Thread Dimitris Papastamos
On Wed, Aug 03, 2016 at 01:20:32PM +0200, FRIGN wrote: > On Wed, 3 Aug 2016 13:10:06 +0200 > hiro <23h...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > are you claiming Let's Encrypt is trustworthy?! > > However, to add to my previous point, I like the automated process for > Let's Encrypt, and it adds more trust than

Re: [dev] Allow secure access to Web site suckless.org

2016-08-03 Thread Anselm R Garbe
Hi 20h, On 3 August 2016 at 12:18, Christoph Lohmann <2...@r-36.net> wrote: > On Wed, 03 Aug 2016 12:18:52 +0200 Paul Menzel wrote: >> I noticed, that it’s currently not possible to securely browse the Web >> site [1]. > > HTTPS is not really secure. Do you really trust any CA? How many CA peo‐ >

Re: [dev] Allow secure access to Web site suckless.org

2016-08-03 Thread FRIGN
On Wed, 3 Aug 2016 13:10:06 +0200 hiro <23h...@gmail.com> wrote: > are you claiming Let's Encrypt is trustworthy?! However, to add to my previous point, I like the automated process for Let's Encrypt, and it adds more trust than just connecting over HTTP. The 100% ideal way would be to do onion

Re: [dev] Allow secure access to Web site suckless.org

2016-08-03 Thread FRIGN
On Wed, 3 Aug 2016 13:10:06 +0200 hiro <23h...@gmail.com> wrote: > are you claiming Let's Encrypt is trustworthy?! To clear this up, no, I am not. However, Let's Encrypt is not about certifying the server on the other end in the first place, but providing a way for easy encrypted traffic. In my o

Re: [dev] Allow secure access to Web site suckless.org

2016-08-03 Thread hiro
are you claiming Let's Encrypt is trustworthy?! On 8/3/16, FRIGN wrote: > On Wed, 03 Aug 2016 12:18:52 +0200 > Christoph Lohmann <2...@r-36.net> wrote: > > Hey Christoph, > >> HTTPS is not really secure. Do you really trust any CA? How many CA >> peo‐ ple have you met in your life and really trus

Re: [dev] Allow secure access to Web site suckless.org

2016-08-03 Thread FRIGN
On Wed, 03 Aug 2016 12:18:52 +0200 Christoph Lohmann <2...@r-36.net> wrote: Hey Christoph, > HTTPS is not really secure. Do you really trust any CA? How many CA > peo‐ ple have you met in your life and really trust them? there's always Let's Encrypt, but I know what you mean. Masquerading still

Re: [dev] Allow secure access to Web site suckless.org

2016-08-03 Thread Aaron Marcher
Hey all, On 08/03, Christoph Lohmann wrote: A onion service might be a consideration, to add something similar to »security« as an access method for suckless.org. A hidden service would be a really good idea. I totally agree with that: End-to-end encryption and no CA. I could generate a domain

Re: [dev] Allow secure access to Web site suckless.org

2016-08-03 Thread Christoph Lohmann
Greetings. On Wed, 03 Aug 2016 12:18:52 +0200 Paul Menzel wrote: > I noticed, that it’s currently not possible to securely browse the Web > site [1]. HTTPS is not really secure. Do you really trust any CA? How many CA peo‐ ple have you met in your life and really trust them? If you would co

Re: [dev] Allow secure access to Web site suckless.org

2016-08-03 Thread Anselm R Garbe
On 3 August 2016 at 11:36, Paul Menzel wrote: > I noticed, that it’s currently not possible to securely browse the Web site > [1]. > > Are there plans to allow access using HTTP over SSL? This is on my TODO list for quite some time. Expect it to happen until end of this year. BR, Anselm

Re: [dev] Allow secure access to Web site suckless.org

2016-08-03 Thread Markus Teich
Paul Menzel wrote: > I noticed, that it’s currently not possible to securely browse the Web site > [1]. > > Are there plans to allow access using HTTP over SSL? Heyho, I'd also like that. My main argument is that it helps against MitM attacks when our precious software is downloaded. However I'm

[dev] Allow secure access to Web site suckless.org

2016-08-03 Thread Paul Menzel
Dear suckless folks, I noticed, that it’s currently not possible to securely browse the Web site [1]. Are there plans to allow access using HTTP over SSL? Thanks, Paul [1] http://suckless.org

Re: [dev] JWM on website

2016-08-03 Thread mk
cwm. On 2016-08-03 11:01, Martin Kühne wrote: Save the thread, kill yourself with ratpoison. Not the wm. cheers! mar77i

Re: [dev] JWM on website

2016-08-03 Thread hiro
This mailing list should be closed. You are providing give these retards a discussion platform with a BRANDED NAME. But there is too much shit posted, and it's too much work to distance oneself from all the crap. Too many people believe suckless intersects with their ideas. They will use it as mora

Re: [dev] JWM on website

2016-08-03 Thread Martin Kühne
Save the thread, kill yourself with ratpoison. Not the wm. cheers! mar77i

Re: [dev] JWM on website

2016-08-03 Thread Hiltjo Posthuma
On Tue, Aug 02, 2016 at 11:05:22PM +0200, patrick295767 patrick295767 wrote: > I believe than an alternative to dwm might be good. dwm is fine, but > an alternative could be useful. Why? -- Kind regards, Hiltjo

Re: [dev] Wayland vs X11

2016-08-03 Thread Silvan Jegen
On Tue, Aug 2, 2016 at 11:04 PM, Mattias Andrée wrote: > On Tue, 2 Aug 2016 22:54:43 +0200 > Silvan Jegen wrote: > >> On Tue, Aug 02, 2016 at 10:16:06PM +0200, FRIGN wrote: >> > On Tue, 2 Aug 2016 22:08:08 +0200 >> > Silvan Jegen wrote: > [...] >> The Wayland protocol deals with input as well so