This is how I remember where ++ does what :D
On 9/12/10, Kurt H Maier wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 2:26 PM, Szabolcs Nagy wrote:
>> i once looked into this, here is what i've found:
>> http://port70.net/~nsz/16_c++.html
> * quote:
> c++; /* this makes c bigger but returns the o
On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 2:26 PM, Szabolcs Nagy wrote:
> i once looked into this, here is what i've found:
> http://port70.net/~nsz/16_c++.html
* quote:
c++; /* this makes c bigger but returns the old value */
This is utterly brilliant.
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# Kurt H Maier
On Sat, Sep 11, 2010 at 10:58:19PM +0100, David Tweed wrote:
> On Sat, Sep 11, 2010 at 10:40 AM, Paolo wrote:
> >>> Why program in C++ when you can do it in C, making the program
> >>> simpler and better?
> > When you can't make the program simpler and better, or you need to
> > do it faster than
On Sat, Sep 11, 2010 at 01:59:07PM +0200, Nicolai Waniek wrote:
> From looking at FeFe's presentation just some notes: His complaints are
> mostly corner cases. You can produce some stupid corner cases where the
> language sucks for every language.
Sure, but it's quite easy for C++ ;)
After all th
On Sat, Sep 11, 2010 at 10:40 AM, Paolo wrote:
>>> Why program in C++ when you can do it in C, making the program simpler and
>>> better?
> When you can't make the program simpler and better, or you need to do it
> faster
> than you do in C, just write C++ or whatever.
>
> This is just the place
On 09/10/2010 07:46 PM, v4hn wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 08:19:38PM +0300, Nikhilesh S wrote:
>> I haven't really understood the problems with C++ that the people here
>> that have problems with C++ have[...]
>
> Felix von Leitner gave a pretty good presentation in 2007 on such problems :)
>
>One of my maxims is that "everyone mistakenly thinks that the kind of
>programs that they write are the kind of programs everyone writes".
There are arguments against C++. Nothing more than that.
I'd use Python to check md5 hash of my downloads
$alias md5.="python -c \"import hashlib; print
has
On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 08:19:38PM +0300, Nikhilesh S wrote:
I must start out saying I don't have much experience in software
development with larger teams on large projects or with lots of other
people, or in 'commercial software development' in companies - I've
just done stuff as a hobby in my
On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 7:19 PM, Paolo wrote:
> Why program in C++ when you can do it in C, making the program simpler and
> better?
One of my maxims is that "everyone mistakenly thinks that the kind of
programs that they write are the kind of programs everyone writes".
There are some domains in
There is a good analysis of C++ monstrosity: http://yosefk.com/c++fqa
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Ramil Farkhshatov
* Nikhilesh S [2010-09-10 20:19:38 +0300]:
> Is C++ broken because no one really understands it fully? Is allowing
> multiple paradigms in a single langauge a problem? Should language
> enforce paradigm?
>
> Could you elaborate in detail, what exactly are your problems with C++?
> Thanks. :)
i o
Uriel has a page on that, you can find some link there.
http://harmful.cat-v.org/software/c++/
C++ inserts a serie of unneeded complexity to the straightforwardness of C.
If you think object-orientedly, you sure imagine a lot of Player objects each
with a
Position object (x,y,z) referenced to a
>Could you elaborate in detail, what exactly are your problems with C++?
>Thanks. :)
You should read http://suckless.org/devel/style_guide.
Moreover the C++ standard is so bloated that to my knowledge no compiler ever
implemented it completely (Can I haz importz?? 'cause code doesn't belong in
On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 08:19:38PM +0300, Nikhilesh S wrote:
> I haven't really understood the problems with C++ that the people here
> that have problems with C++ have[...]
Felix von Leitner gave a pretty good presentation in 2007 on such problems :)
http://www.fefe.de/c++/c%2b%2b-talk.pdf
> Ma
I must start out saying I don't have much experience in software
development with larger teams on large projects or with lots of other
people, or in 'commercial software development' in companies - I've
just done stuff as a hobby in my free time for the past 5 years or so,
learning on my own - but
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