Re: [dev] How about sta.li ?

2010-08-06 Thread Anselm R Garbe
On 2 August 2010 19:04, pancake wrote: > Dunno about gold. Url? But well... Being c++ i farly prefer to use radare > apis. Which are saner and C. http://google-opensource.blogspot.com/2008/04/gold-google-releases-new-and-improved.html It's part of binutils nowadays: http://sourceware.org/cgi-b

Re: [dev] How about sta.li ?

2010-08-02 Thread pancake
Dunno about gold. Url? But well... Being c++ i farly prefer to use radare apis. Which are saner and C. Read between lines.. On 01/08/2010, at 20:15, Anselm R Garbe wrote: > On 1 August 2010 08:30, pancake wrote: >> Cant this be done with a wraper shellscript ? Messing with gnu ld is like a >>

Re: [dev] How about sta.li ?

2010-08-02 Thread pancake
Well, maybe not libdeps in stali, but surely bindeps, dwm depends optionally on dmenu, mutt in vim, etc.. Some of them are optional, and other ones are mandatory. I would call them roles or metapkgs. Adding and removing lines in files surely sucks in automatic scripts because if u modify t

Re: [dev] How about sta.li ? - libc tangent

2010-08-02 Thread Uriel
On Sun, Aug 1, 2010 at 11:36 PM, yy wrote: > 2010/8/1 Ethan Grammatikidis : >> >> Along with support servers this could >> ultimately give a very complete Plan 9 experience without any of the >> performance issues of virtualisation or the other issues of 9vx. > > Do you know what would give a more

Re: [dev] How about sta.li ? - libc tangent

2010-08-02 Thread Uriel
On Sun, Aug 1, 2010 at 8:00 PM, Anselm R Garbe wrote: > On 1 August 2010 12:35, Ethan Grammatikidis wrote: >> On 1 Aug 2010, at 8:43, pancake wrote: >> >>> I want to say that in latest glibc (see archlinux) many 9base programs >>> cant be executed because of being static. >> >> I sent the other m

Re: [dev] How about sta.li ? - libc tangent

2010-08-02 Thread Uriel
> Perhaps it's a mad thought, but what about building a p9p-alike on top of a > modified, ported Plan 9 libc? I expect most of the system calls would pose no > more trouble than in p9p. It's work to be done over again, borrowing methods > from p9p, but some parts will actually be easier. For exa

Re: [dev] How about sta.li ? - libc tangent

2010-08-01 Thread yy
2010/8/1 Ethan Grammatikidis : > > Along with support servers this could > ultimately give a very complete Plan 9 experience without any of the > performance issues of virtualisation or the other issues of 9vx. Do you know what would give a more complete Plan 9 experience? Plan 9. I can see the b

Re: [dev] How about sta.li ? - libc tangent

2010-08-01 Thread Robert Ransom
On Sun, 1 Aug 2010 12:35:56 +0100 Ethan Grammatikidis wrote: > I figure it could go one of two ways. One way some functionality would > be disabled, giving a very p9p-like result. I called this 9libc. The > other way, a 9p multiplexer server could be made. Along with support > servers this

Re: [dev] How about sta.li ?

2010-08-01 Thread Robert Ransom
On Sun, 1 Aug 2010 19:39:45 +0100 Anselm R Garbe wrote: > As said earlier, I don't think any kind of package management/system > is needed apart from hg or rsync. Why not rip portsnap or freebsd-update out of FreeBSD 8.x? Those can do incremental updates from a static-content-only HTTP server,

Re: [dev] How about sta.li ?

2010-08-01 Thread Robert Ransom
On Sun, 1 Aug 2010 11:38:14 +0100 Ethan Grammatikidis wrote: > On 1 Aug 2010, at 8:43, pancake wrote: > > I wrote slpm which can be used as template for binary and src > > packages and it supports static compilation. A repo of bins for it > > can be good. Packages aré pretty similar to slack

Re: [dev] How about sta.li ?

2010-08-01 Thread Anselm R Garbe
On 1 August 2010 11:38, Ethan Grammatikidis wrote: > On 1 Aug 2010, at 8:43, pancake wrote: > >> I want to say that in latest glibc (see archlinux) many 9base programs >> cant be executed because of being static. >> >> Compiling bionic would be great but I was unAble to workaround their >> makefil

Re: [dev] How about sta.li ?

2010-08-01 Thread Anselm R Garbe
On 1 August 2010 08:43, pancake wrote: > I want to say that in latest glibc (see archlinux) many 9base programs cant > be executed because of being static. > > Compiling bionic would be great but I was unAble to workaround their > makefiles to do it without the android sdk. > > Glibc must be avoid

Re: [dev] How about sta.li ?

2010-08-01 Thread Anselm R Garbe
On 1 August 2010 08:30, pancake wrote: > Cant this be done with a wraper shellscript ? Messing with gnu ld is like a > near death experience. Indeed, it can be done using some shell scripts but it'll be quite slow. My initial efforts were gold related, though that's written in C++ which is a bit

Re: [dev] How about sta.li ?

2010-08-01 Thread Anselm R Garbe
On 31 July 2010 22:10, Jens Staal wrote: > Another, sort of related question: how has it worked out with the > static binaries of 9base etc built with bionic? > > I was thinking, perhaps a "static binary repository" could be a good start :) This sounds fairly simple and straightforward as long as

Re: [dev] How about sta.li ? - libc tangent

2010-08-01 Thread Anselm R Garbe
On 1 August 2010 12:35, Ethan Grammatikidis wrote: > On 1 Aug 2010, at 8:43, pancake wrote: > >> I want to say that in latest glibc (see archlinux) many 9base programs >> cant be executed because of being static. > > I sent the other mail off & then I thought, are you talking about finding a > san

Re: [dev] How about sta.li ?

2010-08-01 Thread Josh Rickmar
On Sun, Aug 01, 2010 at 11:38:14AM +0100, Ethan Grammatikidis wrote: > Agreed, but what about other libcs? I'm astonished glibc has come up > at all. Is dietlibc really that inadequate? Or uclibc? I brought up > dietlibc first because as far as I know it doesn't even have dynamic > linking. If it i

Re: [dev] How about sta.li ? - libc tangent

2010-08-01 Thread Ethan Grammatikidis
On 1 Aug 2010, at 8:43, pancake wrote: I want to say that in latest glibc (see archlinux) many 9base programs cant be executed because of being static. I sent the other mail off & then I thought, are you talking about finding a sane libc for any linux, not just sta.li? I've been thinking

Re: [dev] How about sta.li ?

2010-08-01 Thread Ethan Grammatikidis
On 1 Aug 2010, at 8:43, pancake wrote: I want to say that in latest glibc (see archlinux) many 9base programs cant be executed because of being static. Compiling bionic would be great but I was unAble to workaround their makefiles to do it without the android sdk. Glibc must be avoided a

Re: [dev] How about sta.li ?

2010-08-01 Thread pancake
I want to say that in latest glibc (see archlinux) many 9base programs cant be executed because of being static. Compiling bionic would be great but I was unAble to workaround their makefiles to do it without the android sdk. Glibc must be avoided as much as possible. Anybody working w bion

Re: [dev] How about sta.li ?

2010-08-01 Thread pancake
Cant this be done with a wraper shellscript ? Messing with gnu ld is like a near death experience. Using r2libs can also be possible.. But would be more complex than a few loc shellscript. That's what libtool does ( between many other silly things) which we dont need, and certainly i woul

Re: [dev] How about sta.li ?

2010-07-31 Thread Krankkatze
I must say I don't have skills for patching anything and don't even have a sufficient english background to review publications, but I would really like to help (test stuff?), so keep me (us?) in touch! Thanks, Krankkatze

Re: [dev] How about sta.li ?

2010-07-31 Thread Jens Staal
Another, sort of related question: how has it worked out with the static binaries of 9base etc built with bionic? I was thinking, perhaps a "static binary repository" could be a good start :) 2010/7/31 Anselm R Garbe : > Hi Krankkatze, > > On 31 July 2010 19:43, Krankkatze wrote: >> I'm very int

Re: [dev] How about sta.li ?

2010-07-31 Thread Anselm R Garbe
Hi Krankkatze, On 31 July 2010 19:43, Krankkatze wrote: > I'm very interested in the sta.li project and would like to know if the > project is still active or not, and if any help could be brought. Thanks! It's inactive atm, but I did plenty work in the sta.li area that is still unpublished, als

[dev] How about sta.li ?

2010-07-31 Thread Krankkatze
Hi, I'm very interested in the sta.li project and would like to know if the project is still active or not, and if any help could be brought. Thanks!