Re: [dev] Why dwm or wmii over xmonad, etc., or not?

2011-05-09 Thread Nathan Neff
On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 2:57 AM, Aurélien Aptel aurelien.ap...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 3:18 AM, Nathan Neff nathan.n...@gmail.com wrote: 2.5) Easy / sensible defaults.  Sorry but Emacs-style shortcut keys are an oxymoron.  Any window manager that uses Emacs Key Chords is

Re: [dev] Why dwm or wmii over xmonad, etc., or not?

2011-05-09 Thread dtk
Excerpts from Nathan Neff's message of Mo Mai 09 23:17:44 +0200 2011: On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 2:57 AM, Aurélien Aptel aurelien.ap...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 3:18 AM, Nathan Neff nathan.n...@gmail.com wrote: 2.5) Easy / sensible defaults.  Sorry but Emacs-style shortcut keys

Re: [dev] Why dwm or wmii over xmonad, etc., or not?

2011-05-06 Thread Aurélien Aptel
On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 3:18 AM, Nathan Neff nathan.n...@gmail.com wrote: 2.5) Easy / sensible defaults.  Sorry but Emacs-style shortcut keys are an oxymoron.  Any window manager that uses Emacs Key Chords is immediately disqualified.  With wmii you switch between windows and tags with 2

Re: [dev] Why dwm or wmii over xmonad, etc., or not?

2011-05-05 Thread Nathan Neff
Wmii is the best choice, hands down. The other WMs assume way too much. I like dwm second best. Here's the plusses: 1) Wmii does tagging /right/. Want to have your editor, browser and terminal in a dev tag? Done. Want to have your editor in your debug tag as well? No problem. You decide

Re: [dev] Why dwm or wmii over xmonad, etc., or not?

2011-05-05 Thread Uriel
On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 4:27 PM, Eitan Goldshtrom thesource...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Everyone, I suggest you start by not sending HTML email to mailing lists. Thank you uriel P.S.: Can we please get a filter that bounces all HTML-containing emails with a message instructing people to learn to

Re: [dev] Why dwm or wmii over xmonad, etc., or not?

2011-05-05 Thread Uriel
On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 4:27 PM, Eitan Goldshtrom thesource...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Everyone, So I started using wmii a couple months ago. It was the first time I wasn't using GNOME and it's default stuff and I did so because a friend recommended wmii to me. So now I want to know what you all

Re: [dev] Why dwm or wmii over xmonad, etc., or not?

2011-04-22 Thread Ethan Grammatikidis
On 20 Apr 2011, at 7:20 pm, Andrew Hills wrote: On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 1:52 PM, Kurt H Maier karmaf...@gmail.com wrote: If a program requires endless configuration, it's a bad program. The program doesn't require it; I do. I thought I did. 10+ years ago I really felt extreme

Re: [dev] Why dwm or wmii over xmonad, etc., or not?

2011-04-22 Thread Andrew Hills
On Fri, Apr 22, 2011 at 9:07 AM, Ethan Grammatikidis eeke...@fastmail.fm wrote: I thought I did. 10+ years ago I really felt extreme configurability was absolutely vital to getting comfortable at all. I don't need it permanently; I'm new to tiling window managers, and wmii makes it easy to

Re: [dev] Why dwm or wmii over xmonad, etc., or not?

2011-04-22 Thread Tom Kazimiers
(screenshot: http://ompldr.org/vODNuag) You seem to use a nice (anti aliased) font. Out of curiosity: Can you please tell me what it is? Thanks. Cheers, Tom

Re: [dev] Why dwm or wmii over xmonad, etc., or not?

2011-04-22 Thread Jacob Todd
I'm not sure if it's my phone, but that font looks like braille. On Apr 22, 2011 3:51 PM, Suraj Kurapati sun...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Apr 22, 2011 at 10:57 AM, Tom Kazimiers t...@voodoo-arts.net wrote: (screenshot: http://ompldr.org/vODNuag) You seem to use a nice (anti aliased) font. Out

Re: [dev] Why dwm or wmii over xmonad, etc., or not?

2011-04-21 Thread dtk
Excerpts from Suraj Kurapati's message of Thu Apr 21 02:02:56 +0200 2011: On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 2:00 PM, dtk d@gmx.de wrote: Excerpts from Suraj Kurapati's message: is configurable in any programming language (I use Ruby[1]). so do i, but it segfaults on me when i start wireshark

Re: [dev] Why dwm or wmii over xmonad, etc., or not?

2011-04-21 Thread Suraj Kurapati
On Thu, Apr 21, 2011 at 9:04 AM, dtk d@gmx.de wrote: Suraj Kurapati wrote: If your Ruby config is based on mine[1], I think it kind of is. iirc it's based on the one that ships with wmii per default, which again is based on yours, isn't it? The version that ships with wmii is *ancient*!

Re: [dev] Why dwm or wmii over xmonad, etc., or not?

2011-04-21 Thread dtk
Excerpts from Suraj Kurapati's message of Thu Apr 21 21:39:38 +0200 2011: Your config seems fine. I don't see any glaring problems in it. cool. *huge* thanks for looking into this whole thing!! On Thu, Apr 21, 2011 at 9:04 AM, dtk d@gmx.de wrote: The version that ships with wmii is

Re: [dev] Why dwm or wmii over xmonad, etc., or not?

2011-04-21 Thread Suraj Kurapati
On Thu, Apr 21, 2011 at 4:59 PM, dtk d@gmx.de wrote: \o/ you fixed it!! :D actually I only built master just yet, so haven't thrown neither your current config nor my mods at it yet, but so far wireshark runs just nicely :) *yaaay!!* :D Correction: Kris fixed it. :) It was a bug inside

[dev] Why dwm or wmii over xmonad, etc., or not?

2011-04-20 Thread Eitan Goldshtrom
Hi Everyone, So I started using wmii a couple months ago. It was the first time I wasn't using GNOME and it's default stuff and I did so because a friend recommended wmii to me. So now I want to know what you all think. Why are dwm and wmii better than other tiling WMs? Or not? And what are

Re: [dev] Why dwm or wmii over xmonad, etc., or not?

2011-04-20 Thread Nick
For me dwm just works. I fiddled around with config.h for maybe an hour after first getting dwm, and since then have basically left it alone to do its wonders. It's reliable, quick, and simple. Plus it's well-written C, so I learn nicely as and when I want to, poking around to see how things

Re: [dev] Why dwm or wmii over xmonad, etc., or not?

2011-04-20 Thread Kurt H Maier
On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 10:27 AM, Eitan Goldshtrom thesource...@gmail.com wrote: Why are dwm and wmii better than other tiling WMs? dwm is the only window manager that handles tagging properly. wmii is not a window manager, it's an obscene object lesson in unhinged kitchen-sink programming.

Re: [dev] Why dwm or wmii over xmonad, etc., or not?

2011-04-20 Thread Andrew Hills
On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 11:00 AM, Kurt H Maier karmaf...@gmail.com wrote: wmii is not a window manager, it's an obscene object lesson in unhinged kitchen-sink programming. It's endlessly configurable while it's running, which is very convenient. I prefer dwm/wmii to xmonad because I don't know

Re: [dev] Why dwm or wmii over xmonad, etc., or not?

2011-04-20 Thread Suraj Kurapati
On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 7:27 AM, Eitan Goldshtrom wrote: Why are dwm and wmii better than other tiling WMs? I like wmii because it (1) has dynamic tagging, views, and columns; and (2) is configurable in any programming language (I use Ruby[1]). I've been using wmii since 2005; occasionally

Re: [dev] Why dwm or wmii over xmonad, etc., or not?

2011-04-20 Thread Kurt H Maier
On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 1:22 PM, Andrew Hills hills...@gmail.com wrote: It's endlessly configurable while it's running, which is very convenient. If a program requires endless configuration, it's a bad program. -- # Kurt H Maier

Re: [dev] Why dwm or wmii over xmonad, etc., or not?

2011-04-20 Thread Bryan Bennett
I like dwm because of the simplicity of the product itself. It's essentially the simplest example of what I think a tiling window manager should be. I prefer the Master / Slave idea to Wmii's columns, and dwm implements it in it's most basic form.

Re: [dev] Why dwm or wmii over xmonad, etc., or not?

2011-04-20 Thread Marc Weber
Excerpts from Suraj Kurapati's message of Wed Apr 20 19:39:00 +0200 2011: wmii is not perfect, but it does more of what I want than other WMs I've tried (perhaps I haven't tried enough of them). I hope Kris returns someday to continue its development; I fear it's abandoned. I also use wmii -

Re: [dev] Why dwm or wmii over xmonad, etc., or not?

2011-04-20 Thread Andrew Hills
On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 1:52 PM, Kurt H Maier karmaf...@gmail.com wrote: If a program requires endless configuration, it's a bad program. The program doesn't require it; I do. --Andrew Hills

Re: [dev] Why dwm or wmii over xmonad, etc., or not?

2011-04-20 Thread dtk
Excerpts from Suraj Kurapati's message of Wed Apr 20 19:39:00 +0200 2011: On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 7:27 AM, Eitan Goldshtrom wrote: Why are dwm and wmii better than other tiling WMs? I like wmii because it (1) has dynamic tagging, +1 the /only/ way to do it, in my not so humble opinion ;)

Re: [dev] Why dwm or wmii over xmonad, etc., or not?

2011-04-20 Thread Steve Ryan
On 04/20/2011 10:27 AM, Eitan Goldshtrom wrote: Hi Everyone, So I started using wmii a couple months ago. It was the first time I wasn't using GNOME and it's default stuff and I did so because a friend recommended wmii to me. So now I want to know what you all think. Why are dwm and wmii

Re: [dev] Why dwm or wmii over xmonad, etc., or not?

2011-04-20 Thread Suraj Kurapati
On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 2:00 PM, dtk d@gmx.de wrote: Excerpts from Suraj Kurapati's message: is configurable in any programming language (I use Ruby[1]). so do i, but it segfaults on me when i start wireshark -.- dunno, maybe it's due to my modifications (added 'toggle last view' patch