Re: [T5] PermGen Problems Fixed?

2007-02-14 Thread Jesse Kuhnert
Yeah, good point. I guess the trick isn't so much in being "able" to do it as it is designing the API in such a way as to make a "best attempt" at preventing people from screwing things up. (ie leaky abstraction) I guess we'll just have to see how it works out. (though maybe you're right James -

Re: [T5] PermGen Problems Fixed?

2007-02-14 Thread Howard Lewis Ship
What often trips you up is some forgotten ThreadLocal (listing Spring guys) that holds a reference to some forgotten object, which holds a reference to its own Class and ClassLoader. HiveMind and Tapestry 5 IoC have all that machinery to avoid using ThreadLocals, since they are tricky to get righ

Re: [T5] PermGen Problems Fixed?

2007-02-14 Thread Jesse Kuhnert
Throwing the classloader away should do the trick. I've done this in the past with other things. On 2/14/07, James Carman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Maybe someone should run it through a memory profiler to be sure. But, sounds pretty good. I think we need to make sure that tapestry's class pool

Re: [T5] PermGen Problems Fixed?

2007-02-14 Thread James Carman
Maybe someone should run it through a memory profiler to be sure. But, sounds pretty good. I think we need to make sure that tapestry's class pool doesn't maintain a hard reference to its generated classes. But, if the classloader is thrown away, that might just do it. On 2/14/07, Howard Lewis S

Re: [T5] PermGen Problems Fixed?

2007-02-14 Thread Howard Lewis Ship
The "PermGen" problem is elusive, but I think it will be less common in T5. It was caused by the shear volume of classes generated (every component gets a subclass) multiplied by a full reload on every request. T5 is stingier; it only enhances classes once, until some component class changes. The

[T5] PermGen Problems Fixed?

2007-02-14 Thread James Carman
Howard, Is the permgen space problem solved in T5? James - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]