Re: TomEE 7.1 with MP

2018-07-29 Thread Romain Manni-Bucau
Le dim. 29 juil. 2018 à 17:39, Gurkan Erdogdu a écrit : > > > > If you accept SNAPSHOTs in that statement then it is since months. > > > > For me, this statement is only valid after you release the 8.0.0-SNAPSHOT. > Some couple of user can internally deploy the SNAPSHOT version in your > projects

Re: TomEE 7.1 with MP

2018-07-29 Thread Gurkan Erdogdu
> > If you accept SNAPSHOTs in that statement then it is since months. > For me, this statement is only valid after you release the 8.0.0-SNAPSHOT. Some couple of user can internally deploy the SNAPSHOT version in your projects, but you can not assume that every user was doing this because the 8.0

Re: TomEE 7.1 with MP

2018-07-29 Thread Romain Manni-Bucau
Le dim. 29 juil. 2018 à 17:30, Gurkan Erdogdu a écrit : > At a minimum, if some users (move from 7.0.x to 8.0.x) are successfully > used it in production systems for a period of time, then I can call it > stable release. If you accept SNAPSHOTs in that statement then it is since months. > At

Re: TomEE 7.1 with MP

2018-07-29 Thread Gurkan Erdogdu
At a minimum, if some users (move from 7.0.x to 8.0.x) are successfully used it in production systems for a period of time, then I can call it stable release. At the first release, when you say that it is production ready, it is somebit unrealistic. But, if you still want to release it as 8.0.0, yo

Re: TomEE 7.1 with MP

2018-07-29 Thread Romain Manni-Bucau
This is actually what we did since the beginning of TomEE. Also keep in mind milestone, alpha, beta = don't even look at the release for all users who don't want to check a SNAPSHOT so at the end the gain of doing a milestone is mainly to loose time in a release process and not to get any feedback

Re: TomEE 7.1 with MP

2018-07-29 Thread Gurkan Erdogdu
>From my perspective, this is not realistic. You are releasing the first version for JDK 8, MP 1 after getting 8.0 branch to master, and at the first release you are saying that this is production ready. At least, we will need to let users some time to try it and give feedbakcs. I don't say that M1

Re: TomEE 7.1 with MP

2018-07-29 Thread Romain Manni-Bucau
Being said all the stack is already in prod and the glue code is too (it is in 7.x for most of it and some users even deploy the snapshot in prod) I really think we should go directly to 8.0.0. Since we already decoralated from the spec and certification for the 7.x then we don't need to use the mi

Re: TomEE 7.1 with MP

2018-07-29 Thread Gurkan Erdogdu
If you release as 8.0.0, you means that it is production ready? Is 8.0.0 production ready at the first release? At least, at the first release you can add some indication that it is not production ready or it is the first release etc such as M1, CR1. This is the general consensus on release process

Re: TomEE 7.1 with MP

2018-07-29 Thread Romain Manni-Bucau
+1, even a 8.0.0, no need of milestones Le dim. 29 juil. 2018 14:27, Gurkan Erdogdu a écrit : > Hi team > Sorry about this question (even discussed before lots of time) but what is > the meaning of creating 7.1 branch? Just MP with JDK 8? > If that's the only reason why not publish TomEE 8 with

Re: TomEE 7.1 with MP

2018-07-29 Thread Gurkan Erdogdu
Hi team Sorry about this question (even discussed before lots of time) but what is the meaning of creating 7.1 branch? Just MP with JDK 8? If that's the only reason why not publish TomEE 8 with a milestone like TomEE 8.0_M1 or something similar including MP? Possible to release TomEE 8.0.M1 using G