Re: OpenEJB Client incompatibility between 3.1.x and 4.x

2013-12-18 Thread Romain Manni-Bucau
well if both doesnt run with same java version it woudln't have worked before too...so not a new issue ;) Romain Manni-Bucau Twitter: @rmannibucau Blog: http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/ LinkedIn: http://fr.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau Github: https://github.com/rmannibucau 2013/12/18 AndyG : > S

Re: OpenEJB Client incompatibility between 3.1.x and 4.x

2013-12-18 Thread AndyG
Shading is not not going to resolve the situation, as serialization will break and 3.1 - early 4.6-SNAPSHOT had virtually no serialVersionUID's at all. Serialization between runtime 1.6- and 1.7+ was/is completely broken at many levels. The only hope we had was the byte 'version', but that needed

Re: OpenEJB Client incompatibility between 3.1.x and 4.x

2013-12-18 Thread Jean-Louis MONTEIRO
What about Java Serialization Romain. Something is not clear in my mind. Shading ends with renaming packages basically. So when creating the intial context, the factory must be adapted, not a big deal. But a.MyClass does not serialize to b.MyClass, isn't it? So it will allow to have 2 different ve

Re: OpenEJB Client incompatibility between 3.1.x and 4.x

2013-12-18 Thread Romain Manni-Bucau
if you shade the 3.1 you'll be able to use it to contact 3.1 servers and there would be no conflicts with the version 4...but not an elegant solution Romain Manni-Bucau Twitter: @rmannibucau Blog: http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/ LinkedIn: http://fr.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau Github: https://gith

Re: OpenEJB Client incompatibility between 3.1.x and 4.x

2013-12-18 Thread Jean-Louis MONTEIRO
Thanks a lot Andy for summarizing the whole story :) That really helps. Ok so the conclusion, is that we can not have any backward compatibility from 4.x client to 3.1.x servers. @Romain, I don't see how a shaded version of the 3.1 client could help, btw So the only way is just to do like you did

Re: OpenEJB Client incompatibility between 3.1.x and 4.x

2013-12-10 Thread David Blevins
Adding some notes as the person who made this mess :) What we had there was very much the case of "someday we can use this", but someday never came till Andy finished it. We've historically told users the exact server and client version needed to match. Didn't say it at the time, but *huge* th

Re: OpenEJB Client incompatibility between 3.1.x and 4.x

2013-12-10 Thread AndyG
So to sum up both: org.apache.openejb.client.Client#processRequest and... org.apache.openejb.server.ejbd.RequestHandler#processRequest (4 Implementations all added various levels of complexity) Introduced calls that broke backwards compatablity between 3.x / 4.5.x and early 4.6.x-SNAPSHOT versi

Re: OpenEJB Client incompatibility between 3.1.x and 4.x

2013-12-10 Thread AndyG
Check for usage of org.apache.openejb.client.ProtocolMetaData#isAtLeast. The chances of getting 3.x to 4.x working are slim (to none), and will require action on the byte 'version', and this is even more useless with a .eg 1.6 to 1.7 runtime communication due to the missing serial id's - You'll ju

Re: OpenEJB Client incompatibility between 3.1.x and 4.x

2013-12-10 Thread AndyG
Woa - been away over the weekend, so missed all this. Give me a moment. I'll rush in without checking code so you get an idea, - I'll polish my comments in minute if I have it wrong. Newer clients can talk to older servers by setting the property, but not the other way round. The protocol initia

Re: OpenEJB Client incompatibility between 3.1.x and 4.x

2013-12-09 Thread Romain Manni-Bucau
We only support the opposite in degraded mode. The easier way to do the other is to shade old client jar. We loose key features if we want to support full bckwd compatibility since the protocol was not design to be updated. Now that's done and we can enhance it keeping compatibility for next vers

Re: OpenEJB Client incompatibility between 3.1.x and 4.x

2013-12-09 Thread Jean-Louis MONTEIRO
I've found a discussion between you and Andy to add backward compatibility between 4.5.x and 4.6.x using a property. But that is currently not possible to call a 3.1.x server with a 4.6.x client. Is there any way to restore backward compatibility? Jean-Louis 2013/12/9 Romain Manni-Bucau > Hi

Re: OpenEJB Client incompatibility between 3.1.x and 4.x

2013-12-09 Thread Romain Manni-Bucau
Hi Was tested (and is used) by at least 2 users + we have a test for it (itests -> LegacyTest iirc)so would need more details Le 9 déc. 2013 13:17, "Jean-Louis MONTEIRO" a écrit : > Guys, > > > Remember Romain doing some changes in the client part in order to make the > serialization pluggea

OpenEJB Client incompatibility between 3.1.x and 4.x

2013-12-09 Thread Jean-Louis MONTEIRO
Guys, Remember Romain doing some changes in the client part in order to make the serialization pluggeable. He broke somehow the compatibility and Andy did some fixes by introducing the property *openejb.client.protocol.version* ( http://tomee.apache.org/properties-listing.html) . It looks like