Re: Anakia and texen in the repository

2007-05-03 Thread Henning Schmiedehausen
Hi Carlos, I will put in the signatures shortly. For the engine, we have extension from the Apache POM already in SVN, for the others it will follow too before we release. Best regards Henning Carlos Sanchez schrieb: > ok, so you are going to use those groups and put th

Re: Remove Author tags?

2007-05-03 Thread Ahmed Mohombe
Basically removing all the @author tags from the velocity code base and docs and replacing it with 'Velocity development community' and a link to the dev-list. How about doing this? -1 from me as a user. In a lot of projects when I had problems, I was able to ask directly the author(s) of that

Re: Remove Author tags?

2007-05-03 Thread Will Glass-Husain
I'm mostly neutral, though a slight preference for keeping them. I kind of like the way the author tags highlight (at a very coarse level) the history of a class. But I don't feel strongly. What's the primary reason for the recommendation? WILL On 5/3/07, Henning P. Schmiedehausen <[EMAIL PRO

Re: Anakia and texen in the repository

2007-05-03 Thread Will Glass-Husain
Henning, If consensus is reached between you and Carlos, could you post a summary on the dev list on process/location changes for the next release? I know the discussion has been public, but a paragraph or two summary would be very helpful for those of us who are not Maven mavens. best, WILL O

Re: Anakia and texen in the repository

2007-05-03 Thread Henning Schmiedehausen
Yes, sure. Best regards Henning Will Glass-Husain schrieb: > Henning, > > If consensus is reached between you and Carlos, could you post a summary > on the dev list on process/location changes for the next release? I > know the discussion has been public, but a paragraph

Re: Anakia refactoring

2007-05-03 Thread Will Glass-Husain
Terrific idea. So we can now call Anakia directly from the unit test class I assume? WILL On 5/3/07, Henning P. Schmiedehausen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi, in my quest to get the anakia/texen stuff to build better, I refactored the actual Anakia engine out of the Ant task thus allowing emb

Re: Anakia refactoring

2007-05-03 Thread Will Glass-Husain
Never mind; just saw the commits. Makes a lot of sense. WILL On 5/3/07, Will Glass-Husain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Terrific idea. So we can now call Anakia directly from the unit test class I assume? WILL On 5/3/07, Henning P. Schmiedehausen < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi, > > in my

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2007-05-03 Thread Dan Damian
-Original Message- From: Will Glass-Husain [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 3 mai 2007 17:50 To: Velocity Developers List; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Anakia refactoring Terrific idea. So we can now call Anakia directly from the unit test class I assume? WILL On 5/3/07, Henning P.

Re: Anakia / Texen deprecation?

2007-05-03 Thread Henning Schmiedehausen
Carlos moved them back and I just put the gpg keys in. So we are good to go. Best regards Henning Will Glass-Husain schrieb: > Yes. > > Are we satisfied with the jar/repo location issue? If everything is > stable, I'll send an announcement. > > WILL > > On 5/2/07, *

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2007-05-03 Thread Christopher Schultz
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2007-05-03 Thread Dan Damian
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Re: Remove Author tags?

2007-05-03 Thread Ahmed Mohombe
Basically removing all the @author tags from the velocity code base and docs and replacing it with 'Velocity development community' and a link to the dev-list. How about doing this? -1 from me as a user. In a lot of projects when I had problems, I was able to ask directly the author(s) of th

Re: Remove Author tags?

2007-05-03 Thread Will Glass-Husain
Actually, after several years of quiet on the development front, the last year has seen some pretty significant improvements in Velocity. See: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/VELOCITY?report=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.project:changelog-panel Rather than sniping, how about some concre

Re: Remove Author tags?

2007-05-03 Thread Ahmed Mohombe
Rather than sniping, how about some concrete ideas for what you'd like to see next? Or better yet, since you are hanging out in the developer list, some test cases or patches? I have a few ideas, but I don't know how to implement them :). The "obvious" need of something does not imply the abili

Re: Remove Author tags?

2007-05-03 Thread Jason Pettiss
Actually the translation to Java you find in JSP was a lazy way out of needing to write an expression interpreter (pre-dot-com era I don't think anyone was really banking on JSP). But it turns out tight binding is annoying most of the time. In the past few years you've seen JSP trying to look

Re: Remove Author tags?

2007-05-03 Thread Ted Husted
On 5/3/07, Will Glass-Husain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: What's the primary reason for the recommendation? Here's Greg Stein's reasoning: * http://tinyurl.com/mw7t6 -Ted. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additi

Re: Remove Author tags?

2007-05-03 Thread Nathan Bubna
On 5/3/07, Henning P. Schmiedehausen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi, just sitting in Aarons' "incubating open source communities" talk and a subject that came up again is removing the author tags. I know, that in the past, I've been -1 on this but as we do have a CONTRIBUTORS file now, I'd like t

Re: Remove Author tags?

2007-05-03 Thread Nathan Bubna
On 5/3/07, Ahmed Mohombe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Basically removing all the @author tags from the velocity code base > and docs and replacing it with 'Velocity development community' and a > link to the dev-list. > > How about doing this? -1 from me as a user. In a lot of projects when I ha

Re: Remove Author tags?

2007-05-03 Thread Will Glass-Husain
Thanks, Ted. That's a great email. All the reasons cited make sense. Especi I'm now a +1 on removing author tags. WILL On 5/3/07, Ted Husted <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 5/3/07, Will Glass-Husain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What's the primary reason for the recommendation? Here's Greg S

Re: Remove Author tags?

2007-05-03 Thread Will Glass-Husain
(Let me try this again) Thanks, Ted. That's a great email. All the reasons cited make sense. Especially when you realize that all today's committers are "generation two" -- many of the names in the code no longer are associated with the project. I'm now a solid +1 on removing author tags. WI

performance improvements

2007-05-03 Thread Will Glass-Husain
(switching subject lines -- please use this one). Nice email, Jason. Makes a lot of sense to me. For a long time Velocity was much faster than JSP, actually. Probably not the case anymore, haven't measured it recently. I haven't seen any data as to specifically how fast Velocity is vs. JSP or

Re: performance improvements

2007-05-03 Thread Nathan Bubna
On 5/3/07, Will Glass-Husain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: (switching subject lines -- please use this one). Nice email, Jason. Makes a lot of sense to me. For a long time Velocity was much faster than JSP, actually. Probably not the case anymore, haven't measured it recently. I haven't seen an

Re: performance improvements

2007-05-03 Thread Will Glass-Husain
I think one of the committers needs to step up, take the patch, and clean it up, incorporating discussion. I'll do this in the next couple of weeks unless someone beats me to it. I'm itching to test it with JProfiler. WILL On 5/3/07, Nathan Bubna <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 5/3/07, Will Gl

Re: performance improvements

2007-05-03 Thread Christopher Schultz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Will, Will Glass-Husain wrote: > I think one of the committers needs to step up, take the patch, and > clean it up, incorporating discussion. > > I'll do this in the next couple of weeks unless someone beats me to it. > I'm itching to test it with J

[jira] Commented: (VELOCITY-223) VMs that use a large number of directives and macros use excessive amounts of memory - over 4-6MB RAM per form

2007-05-03 Thread Lei Gu (JIRA)
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/VELOCITY-223?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel#action_12493509 ] Lei Gu commented on VELOCITY-223: - Hi Chris or Will, Please remove synchronized key word from ASTSetDirective.java'

Re: performance improvements

2007-05-03 Thread Ahmed Mohombe
I haven't seen any data as to specifically how fast Velocity is vs. JSP or other tools - Ahmed do you have benchmarks you might share? I don't have a benchmark application that could be publicly used, otherwise I would have already submitted it to Apache :). At my previous job there were severa

Re: performance improvements

2007-05-03 Thread Malcolm Edgar
+1 on profiling. I would not want to see any performance related changes to the Velocity code base until there is a very good understanding of the performance issues. I wonder if we could get some multi-threaded unit testings going which perform web app like rendering operations, this would get