Re: [b2g] Nightly OTA update on Flame stops?

2015-05-05 Thread Naoki Hirata
From the gaia meeting notes: ** OTA is busted due to https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1161579#c4 *** we need a forward fix, aus working on the issue. We still do create on the pvtbuild/ftp server, there's also builds on task cluster. Regards, Naoki On May 5, 2015, at 8:16 PM,

[b2g] Nightly OTA update on Flame stops?

2015-05-05 Thread 陳侃如
I haven't seen any updates on my Flame (update channel nightly) since 5/3 (build identifier 20150503160200). Looks like we still produce builds in http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/b2g/nightly/latest-mozilla-central-flame-kk/ Has anyone also had this issue? Kanru

Re: [b2g] Aligning on an App Model for the future

2015-05-05 Thread Paul Theriault
While I’m all for simplification, installation is a useful metaphor for signalling user intent. Removing installation leaves us limited to prompts only. Prompts are pretty limited in terms of a security mitigation and we will have a hard time authorising access to the privileged APIs,

Re: [b2g] Aligning on an App Model for the future

2015-05-05 Thread Eric Shepherd
Jonas Sicking mailto:jo...@sicking.cc May 4, 2015 at 5:06 PM Hi Peter, I think we can and should simplify this actually. The main thing that I think we should do is abandon the term app. The term app is often associated with things like installing and app store, both of which I'd like to move

Re: [b2g] Exposing the browser api reference to the internal/certified apps(eg. System app) themselves?

2015-05-05 Thread Tim Guan-tin Chien
We did talk about these solutions and neither is desirable as they adds significant complexity to the System app internal, and the cost of reviewing every future patch. (We even went to not-so-crazy ideas like simply overwrite window.Audio with our wrap) That's why a platform API is better and

Re: [b2g] Aligning on an App Model for the future

2015-05-05 Thread Peter Dolanjski
Thanks Jonas/Eric. Excellent points. Let me engage some folks on our UX team to get their input and we'll summarize that on this thread. A big thing that we need to grapple with are user expectations and perceptions with respect to apps. Obviously we want to advance the technology and change