Re: [b2g] Backups for Firefox OS

2014-08-05 Thread Julien Wajsberg
Le 05/08/2014 18:42, Fabrice Desré a écrit : Another question is: how do you manage restoring to an earlier version ? I don't think it would generally work without help from the app itself... I'm not sure to understand the use case here. Can you elaborate? In general we don't support downgrad

Re: [b2g] Backups for Firefox OS

2014-08-05 Thread Fabrice Desré
On 08/05/2014 08:21 AM, Julien Wajsberg wrote: > > So, say, the user selects the "Contacts" app. How do you decide you need > to take away the datastore for facebook contacts and the idb for > mozContacts? The contacts app only comes with its own datastores. We could see that this app needs the

Re: [b2g] Backups for Firefox OS

2014-08-05 Thread Julien Wajsberg
Le 05/08/2014 17:15, Fabrice Desré a écrit : On 08/05/2014 04:12 AM, Julien Wajsberg wrote: We'll need to check how other OS are doing this, but I fail to see how to do it differently. Either the backup application knows about the internal format (and then it's application specific) or the appl

Re: [b2g] Backups for Firefox OS

2014-08-05 Thread Fabrice Desré
On 08/05/2014 04:12 AM, Julien Wajsberg wrote: > > We'll need to check how other OS are doing this, but I fail to see how > to do it differently. Either the backup application knows about the > internal format (and then it's application specific) or the application > can save/restore its data in a

Re: [b2g] Backups for Firefox OS

2014-08-05 Thread Paul Rouget
Frederik Braun wrote: > On 05.08.2014 06:42, Jonas Sicking wrote: > > On Thu, Jul 24, 2014 at 5:31 AM, Frederik Braun wrote: > >> But let's step back for a moment and think about use cases. > >> * back-up the whole system. i.e., everything that is required to do a > >> full recovery from whatever

Re: [b2g] Backups for Firefox OS

2014-08-05 Thread Julien Wajsberg
Le 05/08/2014 12:01, Frederik Braun a écrit : On 05.08.2014 11:49, Julien Wajsberg wrote: Le 24/07/2014 14:31, Frederik Braun a écrit : Or maybe through a "give me your backup data"-call the app is responsible to support?) I like this idea. But do you think it's likely, third-party app

Re: [b2g] Backups for Firefox OS

2014-08-05 Thread Frederik Braun
On 05.08.2014 11:49, Julien Wajsberg wrote: > > Le 24/07/2014 14:31, Frederik Braun a écrit : >> Or maybe through a "give me your backup >> data"-call the app is responsible to support?) >> >> > > I like this idea. > But do you think it's likely, third-party apps will support this? _

Re: [b2g] Backups for Firefox OS

2014-08-05 Thread Julien Wajsberg
Le 24/07/2014 14:31, Frederik Braun a écrit : Or maybe through a "give me your backup data"-call the app is responsible to support?) I like this idea. ___ dev-b2g mailing list dev-b2g@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/dev-b2g

Re: [b2g] Backups for Firefox OS

2014-08-05 Thread Paul Theriault
On 5 Aug 2014, at 5:42 pm, Frederik Braun wrote: > On 05.08.2014 06:42, Jonas Sicking wrote: >> On Thu, Jul 24, 2014 at 5:31 AM, Frederik Braun wrote: >>> But let's step back for a moment and think about use cases. >>> * back-up the whole system. i.e., everything that is required to do a >>> fu

Re: [b2g] Backups for Firefox OS

2014-08-05 Thread Frederik Braun
On 05.08.2014 06:42, Jonas Sicking wrote: > On Thu, Jul 24, 2014 at 5:31 AM, Frederik Braun wrote: >> But let's step back for a moment and think about use cases. >> * back-up the whole system. i.e., everything that is required to do a >> full recovery from whatever broken state the phone is in. >>

Re: [b2g] Backups for Firefox OS

2014-08-05 Thread Frederik Braun
On 05.08.2014 06:42, Jonas Sicking wrote: > On Thu, Jul 24, 2014 at 5:31 AM, Frederik Braun wrote: >> But let's step back for a moment and think about use cases. >> * back-up the whole system. i.e., everything that is required to do a >> full recovery from whatever broken state the phone is in. >>

Re: [b2g] Backups for Firefox OS

2014-08-04 Thread Fabrice Desré
On 07/24/2014 07:10 AM, Natalia Martinez-Winter wrote: > not a developer either, I thought back-up&restore would be part of "find > my device" type of service. It could absolutely be part of the remote commands you can send to a lost phone, but that's not the only situation you may want to backup.

Re: [b2g] Backups for Firefox OS

2014-08-04 Thread Jonas Sicking
On Thu, Jul 24, 2014 at 5:31 AM, Frederik Braun wrote: > But let's step back for a moment and think about use cases. > * back-up the whole system. i.e., everything that is required to do a > full recovery from whatever broken state the phone is in. > * all apps and settings, not the system. > * ap

Re: [b2g] Backups for Firefox OS

2014-07-24 Thread Natalia Martinez-Winter
not a developer either, I thought back-up&restore would be part of "find my device" type of service. was hoping that all previous installed apps could be retrieved thanks to Firefox account ? On Thu Jul 24 15:29:05 2014, Rewarp wrote: As someone dogfooding the latest dev branch, and not being

Re: [b2g] Backups for Firefox OS

2014-07-24 Thread Rewarp
As someone dogfooding the latest dev branch, and not being a developer, I think backing up all apps (with settings) as well as phone settings as far as is reasonable would be most useful. Thanks for taking the lead. *--Bitmessage me* *BM-2D97QV3Y4VRfjayrWahqE61XKuQw6dJvj

[b2g] Backups for Firefox OS

2014-07-24 Thread Frederik Braun
Hi list, I am planning to spend a bit of my Q3 time to sketch out how to do proper backups for Firefox OS. I can't believe nobody else has already looked into this, so I'm looking to synchronize with you :) I guess most people currently either use the backup_restore_profile.sh from the TWQA team