Re: [b2g] Making User Stories Obvious in Bugzilla

2014-03-28 Thread Julien Wajsberg
Hey Gareth, While I understand this whole mail was meant to enforce good practices (and that's good!), I think it went out quite wrong and agressive, and that's quite unnecessary. Don't forget we have people from different languages and cultures in this project, and sometimes misunderstandings ca

Re: [b2g] Making User Stories Obvious in Bugzilla

2014-03-28 Thread Julien Wajsberg
Le 28/03/2014 04:38, Fabrice Desré a écrit : > On 03/26/2014 06:09 AM, Gareth Aye wrote: >> When we answer these >> questions for ourselves, we are /being open/ when we mirror our answers >> to bugzilla. >> >> - Is this a good idea? >> - What problem does it solve (and for whom)? >> - Is it high p

Re: [b2g] Making User Stories Obvious in Bugzilla

2014-03-27 Thread Fabrice Desré
On 03/26/2014 06:09 AM, Gareth Aye wrote: > When we answer these > questions for ourselves, we are /being open/ when we mirror our answers > to bugzilla. > > - Is this a good idea? > - What problem does it solve (and for whom)? > - Is it high priority? I strongly disagree on this one. Any issue,

Re: [b2g] Making User Stories Obvious in Bugzilla

2014-03-26 Thread Gareth Aye
Evidently we disagree. IMHO the communication and openness we achieved in that bug leaves a lot to be desired. > One thing made me totally didn't understand is that according to your > own comments, you *did* repeatedly complain one error > that caused the patch broken, even after the patch got up

Re: [b2g] Making User Stories Obvious in Bugzilla

2014-03-26 Thread Greg Weng
I don't think what we discussed are totally about what you mentioned. Although I definitely agree what you want mentioned about communication and questions you've listed. One thing made me totally didn't understand is that according to your own comments, you *did* repeatedly complain one error tha

Re: [b2g] Making User Stories Obvious in Bugzilla

2014-03-26 Thread Marcio Galli
Thanks Gareth, for bringing this up -- in a sort of "recursive" form it seems that you communicated very well the bug about the bug process, with a good use case too. After reading your "questions template", at the end, it reminded me on how Bugzilla teach beginners with a basic text templates. A s

Re: [b2g] Making User Stories Obvious in Bugzilla

2014-03-26 Thread Tim Chien
Thanks Gareth, I will take this to the team tomorrow. On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 9:09 PM, Gareth Aye wrote: > Hi Gaia, > > tl;dr Please make a habit of explaining what the high-level goals of a bug > are when you file one. If you do one thing well as a software developer, > please make it communicat

[b2g] Making User Stories Obvious in Bugzilla

2014-03-26 Thread Gareth Aye
Hi Gaia, tl;dr Please make a habit of explaining what the high-level goals of a bug are when you file one. If you do one thing well as a software developer, please make it communication. /* The longer version */ Sometimes our software doesn't work like we would like for it to. When this happens