Re: [b2g] Where the f*&* is app manager?

2014-08-18 Thread L. David Baron
On Tuesday 2014-08-19 00:21 +0200, Jan Keromnes wrote: > Another point I'd like to bring up is that Nightly remains a playground for > (sane) experiments. It's where new code arrives daily (well, nightly) right > after it's been reviewed and tested. Sadly, this doesn't prevent things > from breakin

Re: [b2g] Where the f*&* is app manager?

2014-08-18 Thread Jonas Sicking
On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 3:21 PM, Jan Keromnes wrote: > Another point I'd like to bring up is that Nightly remains a playground for > (sane) experiments. It's where new code arrives daily (well, nightly) right > after it's been reviewed and tested. Sadly, this doesn't prevent things from > breaking

Re: [b2g] Where the f*&* is app manager?

2014-08-18 Thread Jan Keromnes
Hi Adrian, Again thank you for taking the time to voice your concerns. The pain points you identify are important to us and we'll really try to do better next time. We don't expect you to drop what you're working on to spend time debugging our things, and we're striving to keep you happy doing gre

Re: [b2g] Where the f*&* is app manager?

2014-08-18 Thread Paul Rouget
Adrian Custer wrote: > Hey WebIDE and App-Manager developers, > > do you really not understand why it was such a bad idea to *replace* > the menu entry for App Manager rather than *add* a new entry for > WebIDE? No. I understand. And I even agree. Damn... all this river of text when you could ju

Re: [b2g] Where the f*&* is app manager?

2014-08-18 Thread Adrian Custer
On 8/18/14 11:03 AM, Julien Wajsberg wrote:> > Just a note that you're all using Nightly here. Nightly is where > no-transition changes happen, so that we can test new things in the > wild. And sometimes we disable them after some days, or when it goes > to aurora, or when it goes to beta. > > So,

Re: [b2g] Where the f*&* is app manager?

2014-08-18 Thread Paul Rouget
Marek Raida wrote: > Well, I agree heartily on this. We need ate least some level of stability, > this is too turbulent... ... stability, in Firefox Nightly? Please file bugs if WebIDE doesn't meet your requirements. > Much approach better would be leave AppManager as as - probably add some hin

Re: [b2g] Where the f*&* is app manager?

2014-08-18 Thread Paul Rouget
Adrian Custer wrote: > On 8/18/14 6:01 AM, Jan Jongboom wrote: > >We realize that in all docs we write and demo's we gave we tell > >people to use the App Manager and now its gone from nightly? > >___ dev-b2g mailing list > >dev-b2g@lists.mozilla.org http

Re: [b2g] Where the f*&* is app manager?

2014-08-18 Thread Julien Wajsberg
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Le 18/08/2014 14:56, Adrian Custer a écrit : > On 8/18/14 6:01 AM, Jan Jongboom wrote: >> We realize that in all docs we write and demo's we gave we tell >> people to use the App Manager and now its gone from nightly? >> ___

Re: [b2g] Where the f*&* is app manager?

2014-08-18 Thread Adrian Custer
On 8/18/14 6:01 AM, Jan Jongboom wrote: We realize that in all docs we write and demo's we gave we tell people to use the App Manager and now its gone from nightly? ___ dev-b2g mailing list dev-b2g@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/de

Re: [b2g] Where the f*&* is app manager?

2014-08-18 Thread Jan Keromnes
Thanks for taking the time to give us feedback! There were several problems in the way the App Manager was doing things. WebIDE got rid of many of the design issues App Manager had, and that should allow WebIDE to become a much more stable, intuitive and future-proof tool that won't be replaced an

Re: [b2g] Where the f*&* is app manager?

2014-08-18 Thread Marek Raida
Well, I agree heartily on this. We need ate least some level of stability, this is too turbulent... Much approach better would be leave AppManager as as - probably add some hint that from now one try IDE - but remove it sounds bad practice to me... On Monday, 18 August 2014 12:25:06 UTC+2, Jan J

Re: [b2g] Where the f*&* is app manager?

2014-08-18 Thread Jan Jongboom
Sorry, but why?! First, we tell everyone to use the Simulator and the Simulator dashboard to push applications. Then we tell everyone to use the App Manager and we write blog posts, make training videos, go on conferences about it. And now we deprecate that again? This is the single most importan

Re: [b2g] Where the f*&* is app manager?

2014-08-18 Thread J. Ryan Stinnett
On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 4:01 AM, Jan Jongboom wrote: > We realize that in all docs we write and demo's we gave we tell people to use > the App Manager and now its gone from nightly? App Manager is being replaced by WebIDE[1], which has just been enabled by default in Nightly, which also hides th

[b2g] Where the f*&* is app manager?

2014-08-18 Thread Jan Jongboom
We realize that in all docs we write and demo's we gave we tell people to use the App Manager and now its gone from nightly? ___ dev-b2g mailing list dev-b2g@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/dev-b2g