Re: OMTC for Windows users (nightly only)

2013-12-04 Thread Nicholas Cameron
And after only 20 short, but glorious hours, we have turned it off again to investigate a smorgasbord of talos regressions (bug 946567). In the meantime, please do help test Windows OMTC by manually setting the 'layers.offmainthreadcomposition.enabled' pref to true. Cheers, Nick __

Re: On closing old bugs

2013-12-04 Thread Lawrence Mandel
- Original Message - > On 12/4/2013 2:30 PM, Lawrence Mandel wrote: > > I think David, Nick, Henri, and you are right - there are lots of old bugs > > that we each think are important enough to fix. (Yes, I have some as > > well.) In my mind the real question is, given all of the work that

Re: On closing old bugs

2013-12-04 Thread Michael Lefevre
On 04/12/2013 20:30, Lawrence Mandel wrote: - Original Message - On 12/3/2013 11:15 PM, Lawrence Mandel wrote: In fact, there at 6925 bugs across all Bugzilla products currently in the new or unconfirmed state that were opened more than 10 years ago. I would assert that if a bug hasn't

Re: On closing old bugs

2013-12-04 Thread Joshua Cranmer 🐧
On 12/4/2013 2:30 PM, Lawrence Mandel wrote: I think David, Nick, Henri, and you are right - there are lots of old bugs that we each think are important enough to fix. (Yes, I have some as well.) In my mind the real question is, given all of the work that we all have to do, are we going to spe

Re: Valgrind-on-TBPL

2013-12-04 Thread Mike Hommey
On Tue, Dec 03, 2013 at 05:54:12PM -0800, Jesse Ruderman wrote: > In the long run, it may be more efficient to use the clang "sanitizer" > suite instead of Valgrind. It will need two runs (ASan+LSan+UBSan and > MSan) but the total run time should be lower. > > http://clang.llvm.org/docs/UsersManua

Re: Deciding whether to change the number of unified sources

2013-12-04 Thread L. David Baron
On Wednesday 2013-12-04 16:36 -0500, Ehsan Akhgari wrote: > On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 2:47 PM, L. David Baron wrote: > > I'd certainly hope that nearly all of the difference in size of > > libxul.so is debugging info that wouldn't be present in a non-debug > > build. But it's worth testing, because

Re: Deciding whether to change the number of unified sources

2013-12-04 Thread Ehsan Akhgari
On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 2:47 PM, L. David Baron wrote: > On Tuesday 2013-12-03 10:18 -0800, Brian Smith wrote: > > Also, I would be very interested in seeing "size of libxul.so" for > > fully-optimized (including PGO, where we normally do PGO) builds. Do > > unified builds help or hurt libxul size

Re: OMTC for Windows users (nightly only)

2013-12-04 Thread Benoit Girard
Congratulations! This is a major step forward for modernizing our rendering on desktop, removing old code and simplifying how we render. This will unblock important optimizations such as OMTAnimation and APZC. I'm omitting many benefits. Great work! On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 3:05 AM, Nicholas Camero

Re: On closing old bugs

2013-12-04 Thread Ms2ger
On 12/04/2013 09:30 PM, Lawrence Mandel wrote: I think David, Nick, Henri, and you are right - there are lots of old bugs that we each think are important enough to fix. (Yes, I have some as well.) In my mind the real question is, given all of the work that we all have to do, are we going to spen

Re: On closing old bugs

2013-12-04 Thread Boris Zbarsky
On 12/4/13 3:17 PM, Lawrence Mandel wrote: Very true. However, at least in this case, if the bug had been closed at some point, the issue still would have surfaced when it became relevant due to the filing of duplicate bug 924048. In fact, there are 42 duplicates of this bug that have been fil

Re: On closing old bugs

2013-12-04 Thread Lawrence Mandel
- Original Message - > On 12/3/2013 11:15 PM, Lawrence Mandel wrote: > > In fact, there at 6925 bugs across all Bugzilla products currently in > > the new or unconfirmed state that were opened more than 10 years ago. > > I would assert that if a bug hasn't been fixed in 10 years it > >

Re: On closing old bugs

2013-12-04 Thread Lawrence Mandel
- Original Message - > On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 9:15 PM, Lawrence Mandel wrote: > > > > I would assert that if a bug hasn't been fixed in 10 years it probably > > isn't important enough to spend time on now. > > I strongly disagree with this statement, and any follow-on implication > that b

Re: On closing old bugs

2013-12-04 Thread Lawrence Mandel
- Original Message - > On Tuesday 2013-12-03 21:15 -0800, Lawrence Mandel wrote: > > I'm taking a stronger stance and suggesting that we should be able to > > wontfix bugs that likely aren't worth anyone's time or attention. As a > > concrete example, what is the value in keeping the follow

Re: On closing old bugs

2013-12-04 Thread Lawrence Mandel
- Original Message - > Opened that long ago, and haven't been touched for a long time? Or just > opened that long ago? My simple query was based on bug creation date. The handful of bugs that I looked at I think hadn't been meaningfully touched in at least 5 years. Lawrence > -- > - Mi

Web APIs documentation meeting Friday

2013-12-04 Thread Eric Shepherd
The Web API documentation meeting is Friday at 9 AM Pacific Time. Everyone's welcome to attend; if you're interested in ensuring that these APIs are properly documented, we'd love your input. We have an agenda, as well as details on how to join, here: https://etherpad.mozilla.org/WebAPI-docs-2

Re: Valgrind-on-TBPL

2013-12-04 Thread Steve Fink
On Wed 04 Dec 2013 04:21:33 AM PST, Ted Mielczarek wrote: > On 12/3/2013 8:02 PM, Nicholas Nethercote wrote: >> 3) Runs on mozilla-central and all trees that merge into it > > This is something that Release Engineering needs to fix. You've already > got a bug open, so you should touch base with the

Re: On closing old bugs

2013-12-04 Thread Joshua Cranmer 🐧
On 12/3/2013 11:15 PM, Lawrence Mandel wrote: In fact, there at 6925 bugs across all Bugzilla products currently in > the new or unconfirmed state that were opened more than 10 years ago. > I would assert that if a bug hasn't been fixed in 10 years it > probably isn't important enough to spend

Re: [RFC] Cleaning up sessionstore.js

2013-12-04 Thread Dao
On 28.11.2013 16:15, Honza Bambas wrote: On 11/28/2013 12:56 PM, David Rajchenbach-Teller wrote: As many of you know, Session Restore is something of a performance hog, for many reasons – we have reports of. One of the reasons is that we store so very many things in sessionstore.js and sometimes

Re: On closing old bugs

2013-12-04 Thread Henri Sivonen
On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 7:15 AM, Lawrence Mandel wrote: > I would assert that if a bug hasn't been fixed in 10 years it probably isn't > important enough to spend time on now. We can always reopen or refile if the > issue becomes more pressing (by anyone's judgement). I disagree. As I said earli

Re: Valgrind-on-TBPL

2013-12-04 Thread Ted Mielczarek
On 12/3/2013 8:02 PM, Nicholas Nethercote wrote: > 3) Runs on mozilla-central and all trees that merge into it This is something that Release Engineering needs to fix. You've already got a bug open, so you should touch base with them. > 4) Scheduled on every push This is also RelEng. These both h

Re: Plug-in feature not available in the web platform. Alternatives?

2013-12-04 Thread helpcrypto helpcrypto
Sorry to appear so late, busy weeks!. On Mon, Dec 2, 2013 at 9:27 AM, fma spew wrote: > 1) WebCrypto does not initially plan support for making end-user > certificates available. > W3C WG divided this on 2 specs: Webcrypto and Key Discovery. Webcrypto is about operations like sign(), cypher()..

OMTC for Windows users (nightly only)

2013-12-04 Thread Nicholas Cameron
I just landed a patch flipping the switch for all Windows users with HWA (d3d9/10/11) to use off-main-thread compositing. This is a fairly big change to our rendering pipeline, so if you notice rendering issues on Windows, please file bugs. For now, only nightly users will get this change. Ridi