Re: Voting in BMO

2015-06-10 Thread Xidorn Quan
On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 9:37 AM, Mark Côté wrote: > > * Change bug tagging to something like "favouriting" (or a word with > less contentious spelling ;). Rework the UI to provide an obvious > way to both favourite a bug and to see your favourites list. > ... > * After those are in place, t

Re: Voting in BMO

2015-06-10 Thread Mike Hommey
On Wed, Jun 10, 2015 at 05:37:03PM -0400, Mark Côté wrote: > Thanks for all the input on this feature. This was a good discussion. > Here's what I've learned: > > * Almost no one makes decisions based on the number of votes > (Thunderbird and related may be an exception). > ** Ergo, most users

Re: Voting in BMO

2015-06-10 Thread Mark Côté
Thanks for all the input on this feature. This was a good discussion. Here's what I've learned: * Almost no one makes decisions based on the number of votes (Thunderbird and related may be an exception). ** Ergo, most users voting on bugs are probably being misled into thinking their vote ac

Tracking bugs for preffing on Service Worker (1059784 for initial pref-on)

2015-06-10 Thread Andrew Overholt
We're using this meta-bug to track shipping Service Workers to the release channel on desktop and Android: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1059784 For B2G-specific Service Worker issues we're using this meta-bug: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1131322 And for "post-v1

Firefox Data Collection Practices - How to Collect Data

2015-06-10 Thread Benjamin Smedberg
I'd like to point Firefox and platform developers at this doc: https://wiki.mozilla.org/Firefox/Data_Collection Several times recently I've discovered that developers are unsure what the rules are for collecting data. Last year, I worked with Marshall Erwin to clarify decision-making about dat

PSA: Allocating FallibleTArray methods will soon require `mozilla::fallible` argument

2015-06-10 Thread Birunthan Mohanathas
Greetings, Over in bug 968520, FallibleTArray is being merged into nsTArray. After the bug is complete, we will be left with just nsTArray (and nsAutoTArray). Fallible allocation will be opt-in using the `mozilla::fallible` parameter just like with ns*String. As a first step in this transition, i

Re: Voting in BMO

2015-06-10 Thread Mark Côté
On 2015-06-10 7:06 AM, Philipp Kewisch wrote: > I could live without this feature if the number of people on CC gives > some indication of how wanted a feature may be. Can you check > correlation between the number of votes and the number of people on CC? A quick scan of the Core & Firefox product

Re: Voting in BMO

2015-06-10 Thread Robert Kaiser
Philipp Kewisch schrieb: I could live without this feature if the number of people on CC gives some indication of how wanted a feature may be. Well, I tend to CC myself to thing I seriously do not want to change but really want to be informed about when they actually get done. I wouldn't use

Re: The War on Warnings

2015-06-10 Thread Ryan VanderMeulen
I'm 99% sure we've had mis-stars on intermittent assertion oranges where the assertion changed and nobody bothered checking the logs to notice. Various media tests are coming to mind for when that's happened. On 6/10/2015 10:10 AM, Ehsan Akhgari wrote: On 2015-06-10 3:38 AM, David Rajchenbach-

Re: Voting in BMO

2015-06-10 Thread Mark Côté
On 2015-06-09 11:58 PM, Wayne wrote: >> That said, there are much bigger issues with Bugzilla's UI, and removing >> voting is probably the smallest possible improvement. But it's probably >> easy to just disable it for a while, and see what happens? > > I never have seen the voting UI as being the

Re: The War on Warnings

2015-06-10 Thread Ehsan Akhgari
On 2015-06-10 3:38 AM, David Rajchenbach-Teller wrote: However, I do believe in the following scenario: - oh, there is an assertion warning, it's not my fault, let's allow one assertion; - wait, there are a few, let's allow several; - oh, they are intermittent, let's make it an interval; - [at so

Re: Voting in BMO

2015-06-10 Thread Mike Hoye
On 2015-06-10 3:55 AM, Mark Banner wrote: Replying to this got me thinking - what about changing "vote" to "I have this issue" similar to support.mozilla.org. However, I think the usefulness would end up in the same way as voting. As a suggestion though, how about adding something near the c

Re: Voting in BMO

2015-06-10 Thread Philipp Kewisch
On 6/10/15 1:24 PM, Dirkjan Ochtman wrote: > Similarly, I could imagine that the very explicit CC list could be > changed to be more like a Follow button, plus a (simplified) way to > include others for those who have relevant privileges. Have you seen the experimental bugzilla UI? It has a "follo

Re: Voting in BMO

2015-06-10 Thread Dirkjan Ochtman
On Tue, Jun 9, 2015 at 11:09 PM, Mark Côté wrote: > To that end, I'd like to consider the voting feature. While it is > enabled on a quite a few products, anecdotally I have heard > many times that it isn't actually useful, that is, votes aren't really > being used to prioritize features & fixes.

Re: Voting in BMO

2015-06-10 Thread Philipp Kewisch
On 6/9/15 11:09 PM, Mark Côté wrote: > To that end, I'd like to consider the voting feature. While it is > enabled on a quite a few products, anecdotally I have heard > many times that it isn't actually useful, that is, votes aren't really > being used to prioritize features & fixes. If your team

Re: Voting in BMO

2015-06-10 Thread Archaeopteryx
Original-Nachricht Betreff: Voting in BMO Von: Mark Côté An: Datum: 2015-06-09 23:09 To that end, I'd like to consider the voting feature. While it is enabled on a quite a few products, anecdotally I have heard many times that it isn't actually useful, that is, votes aren't re

Re: Voting in BMO

2015-06-10 Thread Sören Hentzschel
Regarding CC instead of voting, there is another issue. Voting is not enabled in every component, so on these bugs I add me to the CC list. But sometimes it happens that a bug will be marked as confidential after I added me to the CC list. In that case I have still access to the not public bug.

Re: Voting in BMO

2015-06-10 Thread Mark Banner
On 09/06/2015 23:19, R Kent James wrote: Without voting, how do you direct users to express an interest in seeing a bug solved without adding a "me too" comment? Maybe the answer is that we don't. We just need to be honest - it would be very difficult to create a fair system that could be used

Re: The War on Warnings

2015-06-10 Thread David Rajchenbach-Teller
However, I do believe in the following scenario: - oh, there is an assertion warning, it's not my fault, let's allow one assertion; - wait, there are a few, let's allow several; - oh, they are intermittent, let's make it an interval; - [at some point, some of the warnings are fixed, but nobody real