Re: Mozilla Products Included Certificates

2007-02-28 Thread Gervase Markham
Eddy Nigg (StartCom Ltd.) wrote: Gerv, I think that no new CA certificates are added within the the same release. Therefore only between major releases they are added. If you look at https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=351756 you can see, that this was added before the FF2 release,

Re: Proposal for Mozilla CA policy extension

2007-02-28 Thread Nelson Bolyard
Eddy Nigg (StartCom Ltd.) wrote: Johnathan Nightingale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Imagine that we found a way to clearly present to the user: + Your connection is encrypted + The site's identity has been verified + You've been here many times before + This site is trusted by (your friends |

Re: Proposal for Mozilla CA policy extension

2007-02-28 Thread Gervase Markham
Johnathan Nightingale wrote: 1. To a first approximation my sense is that, unsurprisingly, EV and Eddy's proposal are trying to accomplish the same thing: strengthening the internet's TLS/SSL certificate infrastructure to provide stronger identity verification. Actually, I'm afraid I

Re: Practical steps question for multi-level proposal

2007-02-28 Thread Gervase Markham
Eddy Nigg (StartCom Ltd.) wrote: Perhaps this is somewhat premature, but I nevertheless would like to suggest a path for implementation and practical steps for implementation of the multi-level proposal we put forward. It is premature. :-) For a start, the proposal does not have anything

Re: Registerfly

2007-02-28 Thread Eddy Nigg (StartCom Ltd.)
Gervase Markham wrote: You mean, you are not happy anymore about Geotrust/Comodo business? Regfly has no connection to Mozilla whatsoever... Indeed not. Well, what I meant is, that Regfly has not direct responsibility to Mozilla. They are not a CA root, therefore the parent CA is responsible

Re: Registerfly

2007-02-28 Thread Duane
Gervase Markham wrote: Eddy Nigg (StartCom Ltd.) wrote: Let's assume for the sake of argument that we are no longer happy about FlySSL's business. You mean, you are not happy anymore about Geotrust/Comodo business? Regfly has no connection to Mozilla whatsoever... Indeed not. I guess it

Re: Proposal for Mozilla CA policy extension

2007-02-28 Thread Eddy Nigg (StartCom Ltd.)
Gervase Markham wrote: Eddy Nigg (StartCom Ltd.) wrote: That's right! But the audit confirms exactly that (in your example, no verification). The CA will have to mark its certificates compared to its policy which was audited accordingly. Why will they have to? Because they would like to

Re: Proposal for Mozilla CA policy extension

2007-02-28 Thread Ben Bucksch
Nelson Bolyard wrote: Exactly. But there IS NO following information. The page says: Unique Identifier CUI:1869067182 Domain Name:registerfly.com Country:US State: New Jersey Locality: Boonton Organization: RegisterFly.com, inc. Disclaimer: The following

Re: Proposal for Mozilla CA policy extension

2007-02-28 Thread Heikki Toivonen
Alaric Dailey wrote: than doing things right. For example SSL for identification is worthless without DNS being secured, and no-one on any list wants to talk about that. Unfortunately, the number people who actually I don't understand how you can claim this. SSL *is* the solution to

Re: Proposal for Mozilla CA policy extension

2007-02-28 Thread Ben Bucksch
Alaric Dailey wrote: Heikki Toivonen wrote: Alaric Dailey wrote: SSL for identification is worthless without DNS being secured, and no-one on any list wants to talk about that. I don't understand how you can claim this. SSL *is* the solution to insecure DNS. Could you explain? I